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rsot 05-17-2017 07:59 PM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
@bored164, use new user accounts per eb/pp combo

beagle 05-18-2017 12:32 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
I did have a similar issue with a few accounts i was creating and i am thinking was the vcc provider. they got limited the very next morning after creating the account. i went back to using vanilla visa and having no such issue any longer.

Skiba07 05-24-2017 09:55 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Did going for vanilla visa solved this problem for you all as well ?

bladeds 07-27-2017 11:25 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Same issue, been creating new stealths for the past year without problems even May, June were ok and suddenly on my last 2 created this month limited after first few sales.
Using Entropay so could be that ?
Gonna try again with entropay disabling flash cookies as suggested and will report back.
If fails will also try changing entropay.

just_smile 07-27-2017 11:29 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Entropay is very likely your issue.

slokor 07-27-2017 11:43 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
If youre using a dedicated device and proper and dedicated IP solution (which is really how you should be doing things) disabling flash cookies is not necessary - actually you should leave them on.
Entropay is more than likely the problem here. Very easy for them to track such accounts.

iphone_seller 07-27-2017 01:53 PM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Whats the best Entropay alternative then? For UK guys in particular? Seems to be cropping up a lot on here lately to stay away from it.

just_smile 07-27-2017 02:04 PM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Your best bet is getting a prepaid card from the local supermarket. They work like a charm and long expiry dates.

bladeds 07-27-2017 07:01 PM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 861436)
If youre using a dedicated device and proper and dedicated IP solution (which is really how you should be doing things) disabling flash cookies is not necessary - actually you should leave them on.
Entropay is more than likely the problem here. Very easy for them to track such accounts.

I was using a 4G Hotspot as it is cheapest option for me to switch between my stealths. Would that make a difference ?

ukebay 08-01-2017 04:25 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just_smile (Post 861482)
Your best bet is getting a prepaid card from the local supermarket. They work like a charm and long expiry dates.

Just bought a gift card one4all, when I try to add it I see the message: The bank that issued your card didn't approve this transaction. Please contact the card issuer's customer service department if you have any questions. Or you can add a different card now to continue.

sax4 08-01-2017 04:47 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bladeds (Post 861542)
I was using a 4G Hotspot as it is cheapest option for me to switch between my stealths. Would that make a difference ?

No, as long as you change IP

bladeds 08-03-2017 05:13 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Hello, I pm'd you.

Elijah 08-03-2017 08:34 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ukebay (Post 862442)
Just bought a gift card one4all, when I try to add it I see the message: The bank that issued your card didn't approve this transaction. Please contact the card issuer's customer service department if you have any questions. Or you can add a different card now to continue.

That card is for spending only in participating stores. It's not considered a debit card like the visa or MasterCard sold in supermarkets are so unfortunately you can't use it.

Ebayorbust 08-03-2017 08:47 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
You need to register the one4all card here:-

https://www.one4all.ie/v-prepaid-vir...account-1.html

You'll then be issued with a Mastercard that can be used on Paypal.

donkeykong2012 08-03-2017 03:53 PM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
I have just experienced this limitation for the first time on my latest account.

PP account was created in March. This is the only one I have created this year. I have many now!

First item listed - instant limitation requesting info etc. It was an electronic item so yes risky.

No email though. Maybe a glitch? Very poor customer service though PP!

Yes Entropay was attached to this. Probably the culprit.

Can't see it has anything to do with Flash Cookies. Just a security update by PP no doubt.

I will probably refund the customer.

donkeykong2012 08-04-2017 01:35 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Just a quick update. PP did in fact send an email for the limitation. I just found it in my Junk folder.

unknown_user 08-12-2017 09:40 PM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
anyone get past this issue with a different VCC?

colie72 09-07-2017 04:55 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Pirat (Post 846846)
Friend, you tell me how i can to do it on Mozilla browser Win xp?

Regards.

do not use mozilla! use Chrome. I've always had problems with Mozilla for some reason

rookprop 09-08-2017 10:30 PM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muckingfuppet (Post 845061)
OP, I have had the same experiences as you in the last three weeks.

New accounts limited on first payments received.

I have tried changing VCC and bank, i use a new user account, new IP and I am certain that I am not being linked by usual stealth rules.

The limitation hits at the very second the payment hits the account. The limitation always asks for the same things, ID, proof of address, business info, proof of delivery. I have not attempted to send in any of the information they have requested as in my experience, linked accounts are not saveable.

At this stage, i agree with the OP that something on the computer itself is being detected by PP and the accounts are being linked that way. That said, i'm by no means an expert (as i'm sure you'll gather) and i'm more than willing to take advice. As with the OP, I have been doing this for years and have many many accounts.

I'm about to use a different computer for a while and change IP Provider but i am concerned that PP will detect MAC address or similar being used for multiple accounts and I will be in the same position.

Is anyone else having the same issue?


Paypal CANNOT DETECT MAC ADDRESSES

lally106 09-18-2017 07:38 PM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown_user (Post 865011)
anyone get past this issue with a different VCC?

I have disabled Flash Cookies / LSO's and changed from using entro pay. All good for me now.

rookprop 09-22-2017 11:26 PM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 845280)
BINGO! We have a winner!

Change the VCC you are using and the issue will almost certainly disappear.

There should be a warning: DONT USE ENTROPAY

JHerald 09-24-2017 11:34 AM

Re: PayPal accounts limited after first sale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 845280)
BINGO! We have a winner!

Change the VCC you are using and the issue will almost certainly disappear.

It will not disappear, I can vouch that this is a 70 to 100 occurrence, irrespective of whether a bank / card / virtual finance data is applied.

I am not saying this is an outbreak or widespread problem for us, but it certainly exists, whether intentional or not on PayPal's part.

It could also be the result (a theory only at this point) that they are running ongoing public record checks etc. on a new account, especially one selling on the eBay platform or even a cross reference of info with eBay's system since they are still linked like chalk and cheese.

Until we have a definitive answer, then for now, we have to predict it's simply our own doing due to a mistake somewhere in the stealth creation process, but the repetition of the exact same limitation + timing etc. would suggest otherwise to me.

I have managed to keep a PayPal opened long enough to rake in some cash recently, but it's still a risky, unpredictable and hostile situation with them.


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