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denjosh99 04-25-2021 06:36 AM

MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
This is my personal experience with stealth failing me 3 times with the new managed payments yet me deciding to use my actual details without linking address working like a charm and have a working eBay. That was for the guaranteed ID verification you will get after a certain date or earnings when using managed payments.

When you make a stealth account with managed payments and receive a certain amount of money by law (eBay adviser confirmed) your account will be flagged to requiring ID to compare to the details of the payout bank. eBay are legally made to do this hence why it will always happen.

The page where it asks for ID you will see it also wants the bottom part of a passport which gets scanned in person e.g at an airports to be fully visible. Not sure why but they ask for this if using a passport.

My stealth details which always worked did not work at all as i submitted a perfect stealth ID and they reviewed the information and came back saying of course it does not match the bank name and billing addresses. Also that this person does not exist but they refused to elaborate on that.

My actual new one I made followed my actual name but registration address, email & mobile no were fresh got the set up fine and i waited a few days and began selling. When the same thing occurred as a certain amount was reached, I added my ID (genuine) and submitted and it was reinstated within 6 hours no problem. Was surprised how fast it was and no issues. Name on registration has to match bank or it will not work. Addresses were not the same but was no issue as the name was the main part and I guess location I chose was not too far away anyway.

I also saw they ran a light credit check so that would have been impossible to get around on stealth so it seems im back to normal and have to be super careful not to get it suspended. The bank was a new account I opened easily calling the bank prior so had the fresh card and bank ready as well.

I live chat after it was all good asking why a credit check was run and they said to make sure I am a real person and it is all good. They also briefly without being direct confirmed they checked my personal info such as full name with the bank to make sure it matched and im guessing DOB which also matched.

This was my experience with it all and being in the UK i cannot seem to find a way of getting around the managed payments with a stealth.

If you need any other parts of it answered, I will answer the thread messages so all good.

Thanks

muzzie 04-25-2021 07:18 AM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
So good that in underdeveloped countries like Latvia such checks do not take place.

Ukseller1 04-25-2021 07:22 AM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Thanks for the info :)))

so in a nutshell - real name, bank with real name & DOB is whats needed. home address doesn't matter?

denjosh99 04-25-2021 08:24 AM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 1150886)
So good that in underdeveloped countries like Latvia such checks do not take place.

Lucky, but the market for what I sell is UK based. Tried advertising with a EU account via UK and doesnt work out or majority of use would be doing it.

denjosh99 04-25-2021 08:27 AM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ukseller1 (Post 1150887)
Thanks for the info :)))

so in a nutshell - real name, bank with real name & DOB is whats needed. home address doesn't matter?

Yeah, Im using a dedicated IP, fresh one and made a new account in my name and DOB. New email, random address and new mobile. I also did not list for 4 days and made really cheap purchases to be delivered or digital items so some history built up. Also bid on items I knew I will be outbid on.

When you make the business account, it asks you to join managed payments by default so at the same time you link the bank etc in your name. So when checks come later, they can see all adds up.

When they asked to verify managed payments they just looking to make sure you exist and did the checks i mentioned above. No chance a stealth would pass them unless you actually using someone else's ID who exist.

denjosh99 04-25-2021 08:29 AM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Would like to add, I know people with 8-12 year old stealth's who got shut down since the managed payment change as eBay so strict for some reason any suspicion they just shutting us down. I think the credit checks and wanting the scannable passport image makes it impossible but lets hope people may find a work around long term.

muzzie 04-25-2021 08:54 AM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denjosh99 (Post 1150902)
Lucky, but the market for what I sell is UK based. Tried advertising with a EU account via UK and doesnt work out or majority of use would be doing it.

Putting item location as UK and putting main address as UK does not help?

RedPill 04-25-2021 11:36 AM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

When you make a stealth account with managed payments and receive a certain amount of money by law (eBay adviser confirmed) your account will be flagged to requiring ID to compare to the details of the payout bank. eBay are legally made to do this hence why it will always happen.
Any idea what that amount is roughly?

So you can make a MP account without ID initially, is that correct?

JamesNorth101 04-25-2021 12:11 PM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedPill (Post 1150925)
Any idea what that amount is roughly?

So you can make a MP account without ID initially, is that correct?

If your using your own real details yes

RedPill 04-25-2021 12:24 PM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1150926)
If your using your own real details yes

How are they checking the name? by sending a deposit to your bank then withdrawing it, to check the match?

And how would the address be checked, electoral roll?

e2free 04-25-2021 02:22 PM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Well if they can't find you on soft search they ask for you to upload ID which is one of best way at the moment and accounts get verified within few minutes

denjosh99 04-25-2021 02:27 PM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 1150909)
Putting item location as UK and putting main address as UK does not help?

Had no joy in recent times when I tried doing this. But the way it seems, all accounts will be used with MP by the end of 2021 it seems so even personal might not be worth it long term for me.

denjosh99 04-25-2021 02:29 PM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedPill (Post 1150925)
Any idea what that amount is roughly?

So you can make a MP account without ID initially, is that correct?

Yeah, I made account without ID initially. Just when making MP at first it asks me to link bank so made sure my actual info used which works with bank but any address on ebay as it wont be an issue at the ID check alter. I sold 2 £250 items and got the payout within 2 days and after that I got the hold for ID. I had also sold 5 items in total so not sure if it is 5 items or around £500 they ask.

denjosh99 04-25-2021 02:32 PM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedPill (Post 1150929)
How are they checking the name? by sending a deposit to your bank then withdrawing it, to check the match?

And how would the address be checked, electoral roll?

When I linked my other bank to a stealth the first time it did not ask for name so thought all was good and bank added. When I go to view the bank I added on eBay it showed my actual name I never wrote anywhere before on ebay as is stealth so they would have instantly flagged it im guessing from that point.

Luckily on my stealth accounts, when the hold came into place I did not ship items so imagine sending and you have a stealth that needs checking. You wony get the money back as I was being told by UK law they have to hold the funds so was only around £20 lost for me. Imagine someone selling and posting a laptop and it happens, would be screwed.

DENDEN76 04-25-2021 03:01 PM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Surely they cant perform such checks with accounts from 3rd world countries using a local ID instead of passport??

e2free 04-25-2021 03:50 PM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DENDEN76 (Post 1150946)
Surely they cant perform such checks with accounts from 3rd world countries using a local ID instead of passport??

They can, they can read the passport and ID cards they are using 3rd party companies verify if its genuine

rogerdodger 04-25-2021 10:58 PM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
@denjosh99

Great info there mate, I just have a few questions if you don't mind.
1. Are you a previously banned ebayy user so needed to go stealth?

2. How did you see that they done a credit check?

3. are the bank checks JUST name and DOB verification? mismatch address is not a problem? Don't ebayy see this as well?

4. I have made 2 MP business accounts, Both are NOT in my name, DOB, address, email, phone number. I have used MY real bank ( 2 accounts) for MP,
If I now change the account details to my REAL name and DOB but leave xxxx address will this be a big red flag and get the accounts shutdown?

5. How many times can this be done? if you have 5 accounts what are the chances of getting them through? and if you do try that many times with REAL name DOB but different bank account won't this affect the 1st one that was accepted??

These are the main concerns but I may have to ask more later lol.
Thanks for any advise and good luck to all.

Ukseller1 04-25-2021 11:40 PM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
What ID does it ask you for?

Quote:

Originally Posted by denjosh99 (Post 1150943)
Yeah, I made account without ID initially. Just when making MP at first it asks me to link bank so made sure my actual info used which works with bank but any address on ebay as it wont be an issue at the ID check alter. I sold 2 £250 items and got the payout within 2 days and after that I got the hold for ID. I had also sold 5 items in total so not sure if it is 5 items or around £500 they ask.


dune 04-26-2021 02:34 AM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
"and came back saying of course it does not match the bank name and billing addresses"

For this sentence could we conclude that eBay can see your real (billing) address on the bank account (I am not talking about credit card) or can get it from 3rd parties?

rogerdodger 04-26-2021 03:15 AM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
One more thing I forgot to ask....Did you enter the bank manually or trustly?

rsot 04-26-2021 03:28 AM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e2free (Post 1150954)
They can, they can read the passport and ID cards they are using 3rd party companion verify if its genuine

True - figure some algorithms at play

e2free 04-26-2021 01:06 PM

Re: MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 7k7 (Post 1151087)
In fact, many Chinese have passed the UK escrow payment account through the "creative" file. But forgive me for not sharing the secrets. Because eBay with fewer competitors is the best for me.

Yes anyone can no secrete about it


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