Do big sellers get away with it?

[wired]

This is an interesting subject.

I know the UK maker of a certain specialist car part. He has VERO control on eBay as many copies began coming out of China.

eBay will always take down the small sellers of the counterfeit part, but they NEVER take down the Chinese mega sellers selling the same part.

For example only the other week he did the vero reports for six sellers, all just selling a few of this item, and the Chinese would currently stood at 678 items sold. EBay removed all the small sellers, but not the chinese mega seller (although listed as UK based). He sent the forms over no less than twenty times - and the listings are still there!

Same photo as two of the UK sellers as well and the same description.

So if you get away with it till you are making eBay big money, you may be immune!

[rsot]

Never say never - I have seen bigtime Chinese sellers get axed

[yankee]

The interesting aspect about China and China sellers shipping from China is that many if not most Trademarks and patents are NOT recorded in China. That means it is NOT illegal for many Trademarked and patented protected items for Europe and USA to be sold and shipped from China.

In my nitch little business world almost all patents and trademarks are recorded in USA and Canada Only fir example. Many don't record in Canada even.

[wired]

Originally Posted by yankee

The interesting aspect about China and China sellers shipping from China is that many if not most Trademarks and patents are NOT recorded in China. That means it is NOT illegal for many Trademarked and patented protected items for Europe and USA to be sold and shipped from China.

In my nitch little business world almost all patents and trademarks are recorded in USA and Canada Only fir example. Many don't record in Canada even.

You are talking about legality, eBay does not work with legalities especially in the UK as they are technically an offshore company. The issue i raised is more that eBay would not remove the mega seller, this mega seller was drop shipping to the UK and selling on UK ebay, that makes it a UK sale.

[yankee]

Originally Posted by wired

You are talking about legality, eBay does not work with legalities especially in the UK as they are technically an offshore company. The issue i raised is more that eBay would not remove the mega seller, this mega seller was drop shipping to the UK and selling on UK ebay, that makes it a UK sale.

I am not familiar with UK but in the USA it is the case.

Also keep in mind, ebay does not handle vero themselves, it is the Vero rights owners that have ebay remove listings. NOT ebay themselves. That does not mean that is ebay feels something is fishy they are not sensitive.

[Octopus Prime]

I want to sell a item that is non OEM but the market is full
Of Chinese sellers which I don't mind but the
Lack of actual uk sellers worry me are they not selling becouse of fear of getting listed? But I do not think eBay would penalise a uk seller over a Chinese seller would they?

Ratio is about 100 Chinese sellers to one ul seller

[jumjumski]

Originally Posted by Octopus Prime

Yeh sorry I was confused, I mean ⊗⊗⊗⊗ not vero at all I mean ⊗⊗⊗⊗

I'm sure they have some kind of protection.

Last week i bought ibeats for 25£ from a famous UK seller with more than 1 milion!! feedback.Received high copy phakes,nothing close to my girlfriend genuine ones.

When i looked in his negative feedback's,they were hundreads of customers reporting for phakes.

Ebay is taking some big cash under the table from these sellers i think.

[yankee]

Originally Posted by jumjumski

I'm sure they have some kind of protection.

Last week i bought ibeats for 25£ from a famous UK seller with more than 1 milion!! feedback.Received high copy phakes,nothing close to my girlfriend genuine ones.

When i looked in his negative feedback's,they were hundreads of customers reporting for phakes.

Ebay is taking some big cash under the table from these sellers i think.

It is not ebay that monitors VERO. It is the VERO owner rights. So if ibeats gets an attorney and has the correct papers and possibly a court order, ebay will take down those listings...

[yankee]

I keep on hearing big sellers getting away with it.
Small sellers get away with it to but lets be honest about it. If a seller who sells 100,000 items a month have a 1% defect rate they can sell a significantly larger amount of junk compared to a small seller. It is the same math on a grander scale.

I guess if you want to get away with it more, sell more stuff. It is easier to do it the right way though and not have the defect or ⊗⊗⊗⊗ comments in feedback, etc...