Do big sellers get away with it?

[Octopus Prime]

how are the big boys selling vero thousands of pounds worth per week been doing it for years, have tens of thousands in positive feedback.

Maybe because they don't
Mention item is not genuine? Maybe their customers don't care?

I've seen sellers mention in their description that the item is not OEM or is not a official product something along those lines but
Could this not
Work against them of eBay vero team have a look?

Also I condone selling of anything vero.

[JamesNorth101]

Your confusing the term VERO with the term ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

Selling VERO is fine so long as the correct permissions are in order.

Selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ is not fine.

[yankee]

Lots of good legal ways of selling vero. One is being the vero rights owner, second is having a dealership and having permission, third is selling on a platform/location that the vero rights owner has no jurisdiction or patents.

Best way is to have a dealership or be a rights owner.

[johnquango]

Originally Posted by Octopus Prime

how are the big boys selling vero thousands of pounds worth per week been doing it for years, have tens of thousands in positive feedback.

Maybe because they don't
Mention item is not genuine? Maybe their customers don't care?

I've seen sellers mention in their description that the item is not OEM or is not a official product something along those lines but
Could this not
Work against them of eBay vero team have a look?

Also I condone selling of anything vero.

I know we're your coming from, there are a sellers in the UK who have 10,000's of feedback and they sell 'cakes only' some accounts are 10yrs old some 2 or 3, they have all the hallmarks of stealth

And 100's of neg feedbacks that all say the same 'this comment has been removed by ebay'


Selling on the scale they do defo = better treatment from ebay/paypal

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by Octopus Prime

Also I condone selling of anything vero.

why condone that?

it's illegal.

[Octopus Prime]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Your confusing the term VERO with the term ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

Selling VERO is fine so long as the correct permissions are in order.

Selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ is not fine.

Yeh sorry I was confused, I mean ⊗⊗⊗⊗ not vero at all I mean ⊗⊗⊗⊗

[Octopus Prime]

Originally Posted by GreenBean

why condone that?

it's illegal.

I ment I do not condone lol

[yankee]

ahhhh.....⊗⊗⊗⊗ items...are the sellers located and shipping from the UK?

[Octopus Prime]

There's dudes selling me bonnet badges for years I was selling exactly the same item and I was told to not see it anymore. I think it makes a difference on how you describe a item i.e the title and description saying 100% authentice if it isn't seems to get a lot of attention from eBay. I know for a fact customers do not
Care because the item is identical cheaper. And you know there are listings out there where 90% of them
Are
⊗⊗⊗⊗ and 89% are big
Power sellers

[Octopus Prime]

The leading sellers are
From the uk

[Octopus Prime]

Originally Posted by yankee

ahhhh.....⊗⊗⊗⊗ items...are the sellers located and shipping from the UK?

The leading sellers are

[yankee]

so they are selling copy items but using the name brand as key words?

Do you have an example? Does not have to be the items you are selling. Just any example so I can better understand.

[Octopus Prime]

Originally Posted by yankee

so they are selling copy items but using the name brand as key words?

Do you have an example? Does not have to be the items you are selling. Just any example so I can better understand.

Yeh bmw bonnet badge, along with a lot of other car accesories

[Octopus Prime]

Not much margin in it
To be honest tho lol

[yankee]

Gotcha. So I know just enough info about OEM and auto parts to get myself in trouble. So pretty much as long as a certain time period goes by you CAN USE the name brand for a key word as long as you make it clear it is NOT OEM and is aftermarket.

HUGE difference between OEM, aftermarket and ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

[JamesNorth101]

Copyright law in the UK is a very complicated of confusing area of law.

Often you can sell things with the logo of a company in a lawful manner so long it is clear that the item is not manufactured by the company (although of course there is a lot more to it then that)

[Octopus Prime]

Originally Posted by yankee

Gotcha. So I know just enough info about OEM and auto parts to get myself in trouble. So pretty much as long as a certain time period goes by you CAN USE the name brand for a key word as long as you make it clear it is NOT OEM and is aftermarket.

HUGE difference between OEM, aftermarket and ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

So there should
Not be a difference between 100% genuine and non OEM?

[yankee]

HUGE differance between NON OEM and OEM.

OEM= Original Equipment Manufactured. NON OEM or aftermarket is parts FOR trademarks such as BMW but not manufactured by BMW. NOT ⊗⊗⊗⊗ but made to be used on.

[Octopus Prime]

Originally Posted by yankee

HUGE differance between NON OEM and OEM.

OEM= Original Equipment Manufactured. NON OEM or aftermarket is parts FOR trademarks such as BMW but not manufactured by BMW. NOT ⊗⊗⊗⊗ but made to be used on.

It is a very Gray area isn't it?

[yankee]

Originally Posted by Octopus Prime

It is a very Gray area isn't it?

Not really in the auto parts world.

Tons of parts and accessories to be made for BMW as example. Seat covers, emblems, brakes, mechanical parts, etc... but not made by BMW. It makes sense that you can advertise:

High Quality Genuine Italian Leather Seat covers for Audi TT Coupe Convertible

BUT not be made by Audi AS LONG AS you make it clear it is NOT made by audi with NOT OEM or aftermarket parts in the description.

[yankee]

Now saying
GENUINE AUDI TT replacement seat covers Italian leather for coupe or convertible

IS ILLEGAL and misleading if it is NOT made by Audi.

Make sense?

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by Octopus Prime

So there should
Not be a difference between 100% genuine and non OEM?

Massive difference.

And dont fall foul of BMW if you want to flog their goodies OEM.

As if I would drive mah Beemer with OEM goodies. Too snobby.


LOL.