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bally 01-09-2012 01:31 PM

ebaying from a mobile on 3g
 
hi
if i open a ebay account
and only logged into it through my computer with a new ip address and on my mobile network 3g
is there anyway it can be link to my original accounts that got banned?

is there anyway of linking through a mobile phone
thanx in advance

rsot 01-09-2012 02:05 PM

Cookies could link you - did you set up new user account?

bally 01-09-2012 02:50 PM

what if i deleted all the cookies and data

as for the new account no i haven't yet was going to this week
just needed some info on using my mob instead!
thanx

Stigger 01-10-2012 04:37 AM

What phone ,some you can change mac.
i would just but a donle and use a giffgaff sim.

Also some laptops have sim card slots.

bally 01-10-2012 01:13 PM

hi its a htc sensation

what does change the mac mean?
thanx

GTB 01-10-2012 02:53 PM

all you need bud is a dongle,a new windows user account and fresh details and your good to go

get a vcc off me and add your own bank account and your away

mac address changes your a static ip address,its a pain,a dongle will save you alot of time honestly and we all know time is money and time waits for no man

GTB 01-10-2012 02:55 PM

i.e mobile phone linking

as far as i am aware you can get linked with your mobile

dont use your mobile to log into eb ay accounts

separate windows user accounts only

Stigger 01-11-2012 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTB (Post 303103)
i.e mobile phone linking

as far as i am aware you can get linked with your mobile

dont use your mobile to log into eb ay accounts

separate windows user accounts only


how the hell do you work that out ?

GTB 01-11-2012 06:36 PM

i aint worked it out

i said as far as i am aware

BUT,common sense kicks in and surely....logging into mulitple ebay accounts with the same smart phone is bound to cause problems

or am i wrong

we all get things wrong now n then right tiz?

GTB 01-11-2012 06:37 PM

it is not something i would do or advise

correct me if i am wrong mate please do

Stigger 01-11-2012 07:02 PM

I use my phone some times

not sure about other smart phones but my htc is a windows phone.

Anyway, its more or less the same as using a dongle, people do it all the time.

what if you have never used the phone on bay before and only use it for one account .

suppose there is a possabillity of linkage if not managed right just like any other .

GTB 01-11-2012 07:04 PM

right

common sense really

johnnyleeds 01-13-2012 03:51 PM

Eh? I dont understand what you are saying about mobile phone linking... I've been using mobile broadband with GiffGaff for nearly a year now and I've (touch wood!) not had any problems, of course the usual rules apply regarding cookies etc, but are you saying there is some kind of 'linking' that is peculiar to mobile phones?

I dont use a dongle as I dont need one, my phone has a built in HSDPA modem, i'm not going to muck about taking my SIM card out of my phone to put it inside a dongle when I can just connect to the internet using my mobile phone. Do you know if this is definetely a problem? I'm proper paranoid now!

GTB 01-13-2012 04:41 PM

sup jonny

depends on if you are using multiple accounts with the same phone

now am far from an expert on this but,i think there will be some way they can link you

you cant have different user accounts on your phone can you jonny?

eb ay will be able to see the phone you log in with and it will be unique

i am just guessing mate but if you think about it

MM78 01-13-2012 11:03 PM

@bals65, if you are using Ebay's App they might be able to link you, You can always use your phones browser or you can always use 3G, 4G to tether to a laptop, but you would have to do all that good stuff with clearing cookies etc.

If you use your phone to tether don't use the Wifi.

jbluntz 01-13-2012 11:19 PM

With iphone it's pretty easy, you can download the ebay/paypal app's along with ip manager which keeps a history log of your ip's. Clear history, cookies, cache in settings, switch on/off personal hot spot, check ip in ip manager. Then you're free to login to any account from there.

MM78 01-13-2012 11:27 PM

I don't trust the Ebay/Payal app as far as I can throw my Iphone with my Otterbox Case!

But then again I've never been brave enough to try more than 1 account on the phone.

johnnyleeds 01-14-2012 02:50 PM

No, I only use my mobile phones modem to access mobile broadband, I'm not using any Ebay App, I am using my laptop tethered to my mobile phone with Firefox / CCleaner installed etc, the IP address changes quite regularly, even as I'm logged in its changing. I dont see how Ebay would be able to see what phone I'm using?

whatnow 01-14-2012 03:51 PM

i think you'd get linked but im gobsmacked at the amount on here that havent
:pop2:

johnnyleeds 01-14-2012 08:27 PM

I dont understand what it is that going to link me though, its not anything that is mentioned in the Ebay Stealth manual, all it talks about there is cookies and IP addresses, it doesnt mention anything about not using mobile phones / mobile broadband. I know there are others who use mobile broadband in dongles etc which is exactly the same so surely they would be all getting linked too?

jbluntz 01-14-2012 09:13 PM

That's all I've ever used is my phone since I started, use phone for tethering, then also send paypal invoices from my iphone using the paypal app.

Pringles 01-15-2012 01:47 AM

Ive been using 4 stealths for almost 2 months now purely on iphone
No problems over here
Im amazed at all the people claiming that this will get you linked
I dont touch the apps and i clear all my browser data by browsing in private mode in Atomic Web Browser
I also use Ipmanager app

Stigger 01-18-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyleeds (Post 304473)
I dont understand what it is that going to link me though, its not anything that is mentioned in the Ebay Stealth manual, all it talks about there is cookies and IP addresses, it doesnt mention anything about not using mobile phones / mobile broadband. I know there are others who use mobile broadband in dongles etc which is exactly the same so surely they would be all getting linked too?



bang on Johnny, stop stressing mate.

GTB 01-18-2012 03:25 PM

@jonny

i am not referring to mobile broadband

i am talking about using ebay on a phone

not using a pc at all,just the phone and logging into multiple accounts

tiz said he has a windows phone so he probably has diff user accounts and gets diff ip

but if you use a non windows smart phone and cannot change user accounts then i think you will get linked

how...i dont know,maybe cookies or maybe they can trace the phone used:noidea:

just something to think about

Squib03 01-18-2012 04:56 PM

Ive been logged into my main account on my iphone and chucked my phone on aeroplane mode and back on again thus givin me a new ip and used it with my stealth account many a time.

Account is now around 4 months old and i havent had any problems.

Squib03 01-18-2012 04:57 PM

Btw by this i mean teathering

GTB 01-18-2012 05:00 PM

that is different

the debate is about actually using your phone,not tethering just for ip

johnnyleeds 01-18-2012 05:05 PM

Oh, well I'm only using my mobile phone's built in HSDPA modem to access mobile broadband via my laptop which is tethered to the phone. Its not great broadband speed - usually about 1-2 meg download, a bit slower for uploads.

But for £10 per month and I get 250 minutes credit / unlimited texts and unlimited internet its not bad. I just assumed that cos I'm using a laptop running windows xp with multiple user accounts / firefox / ccleaner etc that i'd be ok...?

I wouldnt use my phones browser to be logging into multiple stealth accounts as I dont know how the phones browser handles cookies etc. My phone is a vintage HTC smartphone that runs windows mobile 6.5, compared to all these phones running android / windows 7 etc its an antique. But it works for me and it only cost £25 from... cashconverters! ha ha ha!

One odd thing I notice is that even without logging off or switching my phone off / on again etc I get an IP address that is constantly changing. For example if I go to IP Burger to get my IP address I will get one IP address, then a few minutes later if I go back to IP Burger it will show a new IP address... Whats that all about? Is this something that is peculiar to mobile broadband?

aleen 01-18-2012 09:28 PM

im using ebay apps as well for multiple ebay accounts. actually iphone clear cookies by itself. i know many people who are using iphone 4 especially for mulitiple ebay accounts.

johnnyleeds 01-18-2012 09:43 PM

Multiple ebay accounts on one iphone ebay app sounds a bit risky, personally I wouldnt do that even if it does clear cookies, it might not be the cookies that would cause the linking there. Any Ebay apps are usually developed by Ebay - like Turbolister for example, and you wouldnt have multiple stealth accounts all using Turbolister on the same computer, you might as well just write a signed confession and send it to Ebay.

jbluntz 01-18-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyleeds (Post 305685)
Multiple ebay accounts on one iphone ebay app sounds a bit risky, personally I wouldnt do that even if it does clear cookies, it might not be the cookies that would cause the linking there. Any Ebay apps are usually developed by Ebay - like Turbolister for example, and you wouldnt have multiple stealth accounts all using Turbolister on the same computer, you might as well just write a signed confession and send it to Ebay.

Yeah, might as well but we don't, why? because it works :doh:

Pringles 01-18-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyleeds (Post 305685)
Multiple ebay accounts on one iphone ebay app sounds a bit risky, personally I wouldnt do that even if it does clear cookies, it might not be the cookies that would cause the linking there. Any Ebay apps are usually developed by Ebay - like Turbolister for example, and you wouldnt have multiple stealth accounts all using Turbolister on the same computer, you might as well just write a signed confession and send it to Ebay.

Who says you need to use the eB*y app?

I don't touch any of their apps.

Been going strong on 4 stealths for 2 months on iPhone now...

Stigger 01-19-2012 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pringles (Post 305701)
Who says you need to use the eB*y app?

I don't touch any of their apps.

Been going strong on 4 stealths for 2 months on iPhone now...


No one did, some people said they wouldn't trust it and others posted that they actually use it.

GTB 01-19-2012 06:21 AM

Hmmmm

looks like this thread will continue on into the night

does anyone know of a way that ebay can link you if you use your phone ONLY to run multiple stealth accounts

ip address is not the issue here,it is things like cookies or something that could show ebay that you are the same person/same phone,some unique info that only your phone will have

aleen 01-19-2012 07:24 AM

it aint risky though. if you have jail broken iphone and unlimited 3g data then you are fine as i know.

GTB 01-19-2012 07:42 AM

so your saying ebay cannot collect any unique data from you

your phone does not give away any unique info that ebay could use against you in the court of ebay law

what about uploading pics,do you clean the exif data?

theres a few things to think about

ip address is not a problem!

GTB 01-19-2012 07:48 AM

also just because a few do this on the regular

dont mean they dont know

mebe you just aint been caught yet:bat:

JB have you ever had a ebay account limited from using your phone

i dont mean because of using your phone,just had one banned?

coz if you have...and you are still running the tuva ones fine then that could be some proof that the iphone is fine for what we are talkin about

anyone else who dont use a windows or a iphone smart phone to run multiple accounts on ebay & paypal please stand up

better question.....what info can be collected by website owners when someone logs on with a smart phone?

GTB 01-19-2012 08:52 AM

Hmm yeah......i do tend to talk sh*t lol:typing:

johnnyleeds 01-19-2012 11:10 AM

Well I suppose only time will tell if using either mobile broadband or ebay apps on the same mobile phone can cause linking problems. However I'm going to give ebay as little chance as possible to link me so I only use my mobile phone to connect to the internet via its built in modem.

Then I'm following all the usual Ebay Stealth procedures on my laptop - Firefox / CCleaner etc etc. Running an Ebay App designed by Ebay for a mobile phone probably contains extra codes designed to record information about you, your habits, your usernames, phone model, network used, location etc etc.

Anyway if its working fine for people that use it at the moment then good luck to you. Personally I wouldnt use it unless it was just for one account maybe.

Pringles 01-19-2012 11:58 PM

I've signed into several banned accounts on my iPhone and my other ones are still up


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