eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?

[james_112233]

I'm not going to openly spell it out for you. As I said before use your brain. It's been discussed a million times already on the forum. Just look through past threads.

[Freakzilla]

Bit harsh Dude. I'm not a mug! Nobody knows for definite how this will work over here.

Originally Posted by james_112233

I'm not going to openly spell it out for you. As I said before use your brain. It's been discussed a million times already on the forum. Just look through past threads.

[Themav]

if its been discussed on the forums lots of times then it was more effort for you to scold everyone than lay it out. ive been on this forum years and never heard of it thus why the questions.

there seems to be this unhealthy undercurrent on here that you have to pay your dues and read thousands and thousands of hours of posts because no one will ever straight up share ideas ...

i mean Freakzilla has posted 641 times on the forum I think they have contributed enough to this site to get some straight answers rather than him (and probably myself for asking if the DOB is the same) being flamed so harshly ... he's not '1 post' Larry asking if he can use the same IP on each account.

[JamesNorth101]

Right now there are no straight answers

People are wanting to seem as if they have the secret answer with really special inside information. That just isnt the case though

If someone is trying to use the same DOB and the same name with the same passport - they will just get blocked. Its a straight forward as that.

Right now we know the details managed payments need for pre-registration but that is it.

They may well want more details later on, or less details. No one knows until its fully rolled out

In the US we can take some ideas as to how it will happen, but at the same time there have always been a lot of difference between how eBay and PayPal operate in the US V the the the rest of the world that its only an indication right now. Each country will have its own requirements. Until its fully rolled out in each country everything is just an educated guess at the moment

[james_112233]

This whole thread has gone sideways.

My answer about I am not going to spell it out for you (now I will clearly have too) was about how I am running my stealths TODAY. Not how to run it when managed payments comes in to play - NOBODY knows about that yet. Not in the UK anyway.

And to elaborate on my initial answer, it's about getting creative. Using the same name but having everything else changed. Now if you still can't figure out what I meant by that just give up, seriously.

[Bigblackdog]

Originally Posted by james_112233

This whole thread has gone sideways.

My answer about I am not going to spell it out for you (now I will clearly have too) was about how I am running my stealths TODAY. Not how to run it when managed payments comes in to play - NOBODY knows about that yet. Not in the UK anyway.

And to elaborate on my initial answer, it's about getting creative. Using the same name but having everything else changed. Now if you still can't figure out what I meant by that just give up, seriously.

Hard work isn't it James? Especially when they cannot be bothered to read the thread -

[Freakzilla]

Who is that aimed at? How long have you been on this forum? What have you contributed?

Nobody knows the answers as it hasn't come into effect yet.

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog

Hard work isn't it James? Especially when they cannot be bothered to read the thread -

[Freakzilla]

So your answer adds nothing on how to run stealth accounts with managed payments. Just how to run them now which everyone knows.

Originally Posted by james_112233

This whole thread has gone sideways.

My answer about I am not going to spell it out for you (now I will clearly have too) was about how I am running my stealths TODAY. Not how to run it when managed payments comes in to play - NOBODY knows about that yet. Not in the UK anyway.

And to elaborate on my initial answer, it's about getting creative. Using the same name but having everything else changed. Now if you still can't figure out what I meant by that just give up, seriously.

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by Freakzilla

So your answer adds nothing on how to run stealth accounts with managed payments. Just how to run them now which everyone knows.

It's really sad when you can't be bothered to read.

My answers were replies to ANOTHER users questions. Go back and actually spend a few minutes reading. The users questions were not related to managed payments.

This is why I said this thread has now gone sideways and off topic.

[Freakzilla]

I remember a decade ago this forum used to be about helping other members, and not being a keyboard warrior!

[JamesNorth101]

For the most part there are still a lot of helpful members. Dozens of posts a day from really great members here on the forum

Those with axes to grind tend to be the loudest though. That has a side effect of drowning out a lot of helpful posts that are still on the forum but they are still there

[wilburnet]

Both large and small volume sellers are getting the email a friend of mine in Oz said. If you are used to Etsy payments then it should be fine.

[Bigblackdog]

Originally Posted by Freakzilla

I remember a decade ago this forum used to be about helping other members, and not being a keyboard warrior!

I remember those days well,I was a very active member in those days

But in those days the majority of new users who came to the forum had fallen foul of one or another of EB/PP rules and just wanted a way to get back to earning a living

It seems to me that a lot of the 'noobs' that come here today want/need to create lots of accounts

They become annoyed, frustrated and often downright abusive when they do not immediately get the answers they want -

And why do they need lots of accounts?

Spreading their business? Yes,OK,I'll buy that

Or is it they are burning through accounts because they are selling 'unreal' or VERO? That's their business of course - but are they conning people and asking us to conive with them?

Is that what this forum is now? A decade ago it was about helping small sellers get back on their feet - is it now for scammers and con artists?

No matter what their reasons for being here the fact is if, like me you have been away for a while you cannot help but notice how aggresive, demanding and entitled some of the new posters are - regular snowflakes.

The regular members come here to learn and share - and for their trouble they get some know nothing scam artist mouthing off because they can see through the idiots - who of course will just disappear when they cannot get what they want - back to the Black Hat world from whence they came

Some of us have dealt with managed payments through Etsy - we share our knowledge - but I have to admit I'm starting to wonder why anyone would bother

[Freakzilla]

Some of us have been here all the time, learning and helping members. I have helped a lot of members with Amazon Stealth.

From your quotes in this thread I would put you under the aggressive banner.

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog

I remember those days well,I was a very active member in those days

But in those days the majority of new users who came to the forum had fallen foul of one or another of EB/PP rules and just wanted a way to get back to earning a living

It seems to me that a lot of the 'noobs' that come here today want/need to create lots of accounts

They become annoyed, frustrated and often downright abusive when they do not immediately get the answers they want -

And why do they need lots of accounts?

Spreading their business? Yes,OK,I'll buy that

Or is it they are burning through accounts because they are selling 'unreal' or VERO? That's their business of course - but are they conning people and asking us to conive with them?

Is that what this forum is now? A decade ago it was about helping small sellers get back on their feet - is it now for scammers and con artists?

No matter what their reasons for being here the fact is if, like me you have been away for a while you cannot help but notice how aggresive, demanding and entitled some of the new posters are - regular snowflakes.

The regular members come here to learn and share - and for their trouble they get some know nothing scam artist mouthing off because they can see through the idiots - who of course will just disappear when they cannot get what they want - back to the Black Hat world from whence they came

Some of us have dealt with managed payments through Etsy - we share our knowledge - but I have to admit I'm starting to wonder why anyone would bother

[Bigblackdog]

Originally Posted by Freakzilla

Some of us have been here all the time, learning and helping members. I have helped a lot of members with Amazon Stealth.

From your quotes in this thread I would put you under the aggressive banner.

Good for you old kiddie - I'm sure you are a wonderful person who is 100% correct in all that you say

[Freakzilla]

If the members here are so terrible why come here? Someone of your expertise could earn a fortune providing consultancy.

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog

Good for you old kiddie - I'm sure you are a wonderful person who is 100% correct in all that you say

[Bigblackdog]

Originally Posted by Freakzilla

If the members here are so terrible why come here? Someone of your expertise could earn a fortune providing consultancy.

I must admit I am starting to ask myself that question - why indeed

[brassmonkey]

Does anyone know if ebay request your UTR number if you register your business type as sole trader?

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by tinsoldier

No they don't but I believe all new business accounts have no choice but to sign up to managed payments.

Not at the moment

In the future - possibly. Time will tell.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by tinsoldier

No they don't but I believe all new business accounts have no choice but to sign up to managed payments.

Sorry I meant when you try to enroll an existing account in Managed Payments.

Do we have a definitive list yet of what they require for an individual and business account when you enroll in MP?

I think for individual it is:

- photo ID (maybe not straight away but will happen at some point)
- copy of bank statement

Anyone know exactly what is required for business?

[brassmonkey]

Thank you!

For two below - do we know if identification information for directors will just be passport/driving license?

The recent bank statement - I'm assuming this has to be the bank account which you will be getting your MP deposits and do we know if the address on the statment has to match your ebay address?

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by tinsoldier

Thank you!

Well there we go. Speculation over. That's everything they will need.

Looks like everything will be tallied up to a database so there is no chance of getting creative although i'm fairly sure many will try doing that.