eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Thank you!

For two below - do we know if identification information for directors will just be passport/driving license?

The recent bank statement - I'm assuming this has to be the bank account which you will be getting your MP deposits and do we know if the address on the statment has to match your ebay address?

If we can conceal our previously suspended address on ebay by showing a screenshot of our "banking portal" i.e. account after logging into online banking.

We should be OK right ? because my bank statements have my suspended address on them.

If that's possible then I should be able to switch my current business account to MP without any hiccups providing all my real information.

It's the personal accounts that will eventually go to MP I need to worry about then.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by james_112233

If we can conceal our previously suspended address on ebay by showing a screenshot of our "banking portal" i.e. account after logging into online banking.

We should be OK right ? because my bank statements have my suspended address on them.

If that's possible then I should be able to switch my current business account to MP without any hiccups providing all my real information.

It's the personal accounts that will eventually go to MP I need to worry about then.

I believe if you pay for a "registered office address" and register your LTD there then you can have that address for your business bank account. This would mean your bank statements have your real LTD address which won't be banned.

[Freakzilla]

For The Bank Account info part, is there any way they can check what address the bank has on file?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Freakzilla

For The Bank Account info part, is there any way they can check what address the bank has on file?

Log into your online banking and look at a bank statement.

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by Freakzilla

For The Bank Account info part, is there any way they can check what address the bank has on file?

There isnt no

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

I believe if you pay for a "registered office address" and register your LTD there then you can have that address for your business bank account. This would mean your bank statements have your real LTD address which won't be banned.

Actually I don't think the address needs to be shown on the bank statement - Adyen documents state that the below is needed for bank statement verification:

- Bank logo or bank name in a unique font.
- Bank account details.
- Name of the account holder.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by tinsoldier

Yes, you can have your bank statements sent to your place of work, but that's not going to be an issue as they don't want the accommodation address you're using, but check box 4 will reveal your true ID (and maybe residential address). As we know there is a robust regulatory framework surrounding Limited Companies and you mess with them at your own peril.

Only time will tell how, or if, they intend to to ensure banned sellers are not using the Limited Company route to muddy the waters.

Lets not forget that all we're talking about here is managed payments, you've still got to have a verified functioning ebay account first which I know for sure asks for the account holders (directors) residential address.

I can't see anywhere where they are asking for directors residential address and I'm not sure if they ever would ask for that.

[james_112233]

As long as I can get my existing accounts working indefinitely it's all good. I have no intention of creating new stealth accounts.

As selfish as that sounds ...

[ebaywanton]

Are the screenshots above for businesses or sole traders? I am a sole trader and dont have a company number etc

[glacier922]

Based on what I just read on that screenshot it looks like stealth is extremely doable, though it's going to be so much more hassle now. Let's see if we can continue to skirt this, which, based on what I've seen, is doable as well.

[Pathos]

Originally Posted by glacier922

Based on what I just read on that screenshot it looks like stealth is extremely doable, though it's going to be so much more hassle now. Let's see if we can continue to skirt this, which, based on what I've seen, is doable as well.

What is missing from that, is that ID will also be required, which is in the second email eBay sent out, it would always be required in the EU after a certain financial point.

Then, when you check Aydens verification process and the service they use to do it, you begin to realise Stealth probably won't be.

[ebaywanton]

Very true, the ID part will be a little hard to pass, but once we change our names on ebay to match our ID, we should stand a good chance of passing i hope

[Pathos]

Originally Posted by ebaywanton

Very true, the ID part will be a little hard to pass, but once we change our names on ebay to match our ID, we should stand a good chance of passing i hope

Yes it will be fine I would imagine...but no longer Stealth.

[goodstealth]

So you say they are checking if the name and last name is real? How they do that?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by goodstealth

So you say they are checking if the name and last name is real? How they do that?

They are checking your ebay name matches your bank account name. Obviously the name on your bank account is your real name therefore your ebay name will need to be your real name.

[Pathos]

Originally Posted by goodstealth

So you say they are checking if the name and last name is real? How they do that?

They are checking that the person exists..you will send your passport in or your driving licence, and the codes on it will be checked against a database on a service that provides this...

Combined with the bank account check, and then the new requirement for matching names, thats a pretty fullproof system.

[goodstealth]

Originally Posted by Pathos

They are checking that the person exists..you will send your passport in or your driving licence, and the codes on it will be checked against a database on a service that provides this...

Combined with the bank account check, and then the new requirement for matching names, thats a pretty fullproof system.

Are you 100% sure about that or you are just speculating? Not trying to be rude, btw. Just asking

[Pathos]

Originally Posted by goodstealth

Are you 100% sure about that or you are just speculating? Not trying to be rude, btw. Just asking

Theres no assurances in this, however, read the information on Ayden, their terms and conditions, and in fact PayPal, in their terms and conditions, its all stated pretty much. PayPal even list the company they use for this service.

[Freakzilla]

What makes you think this?

Originally Posted by Pathos

They are checking that the person exists..you will send your passport in or your driving licence, and the codes on it will be checked against a database on a service that provides this...

Combined with the bank account check, and then the new requirement for matching names, thats a pretty fullproof system.

[ebaywanton]

Regarding the database they check, can they see your real address? Because my real address will not match my ebay one (original address is banned).

[Pathos]

Originally Posted by Freakzilla

What makes you think this?

See above.

Have you done any research at all?

[Pathos]

Originally Posted by ebaywanton

Regarding the database they check, can they see your real address? Because my real address will not match my ebay one (original address is banned).

Not if you use a Passport as your ID document as there is no address on a PP. I think, if you are to use your Driving Licence, you may need the address to match. Thats just educated speculation though.