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LloydB 06-25-2020 03:20 PM

Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
I have a stealth account which is used intermittently (back up account in case main ones go down), I had a invite to register for MP on it about 4/5 weeks ago so did to see what happens before registering my main accounts.

Logged in today to find the following messages -

https://ibb.co/Mf36wBc
https://ibb.co/PYzFp1T
https://ibb.co/gwQZrdg
https://ibb.co/WpQf5X1

Stealth details used so name doesn't match bank account.

Bigblackdog 06-25-2020 04:00 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LloydB (Post 1102026)
I have a stealth account which is used intermittently (back up account in case main ones go down), I had a invite to register for MP on it about 4/5 weeks ago so did to see what happens before registering my main accounts.

Logged in today to find the following messages -

https://ibb.co/Mf36wBc
https://ibb.co/PYzFp1T
https://ibb.co/gwQZrdg
https://ibb.co/WpQf5X1

Stealth details used so name doesn't match bank account.

You will need to ,make sure your bank statement matches your needs

brassmonkey 06-25-2020 04:15 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Yup I got these messages today too.

Looks like I'll be uploading ID and bank statement.

What does it mean linking your accounts via bank sign-on?

JamesNorth101 06-25-2020 04:24 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 1102037)
What does it mean linking your accounts via bank sign-on?

They send you to a third party company, that then prompts you to login using your online banking details with which ever bank you’re with ( for example NatWest or HSBC etc). After you do that you then have to agree to all the terms conditions and part of those terms conditions are that eBay will be up to see all of your account activity across all of your bank account registered with that particular bank

LloydB 06-25-2020 04:30 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1102043)
They send you to a third party company, that then prompts you to login using your online banking details with which ever bank you’re with ( for example NatWest or HSBC etc). After you do that you then have to agree to all the terms conditions and part of those terms conditions are that eBay will be up to see all of your account activity across all of your bank account registered with that particular bank

So, could ebay link other stealth accounts you have to bank accounts registered to the same bank? ie 2 stealth accounts, 2 different savings accounts but with the same bank?

JamesNorth101 06-25-2020 04:37 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
In theory yes it does sound like that would be possible in practice I’m not actually sure if they would look through all the bank data that they will have been granted access to

Moral really here is don’t use that option use the bank statement option

JamesNorth101 06-25-2020 06:34 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1102066)
Did you make this up?????

Please try to think before you post...

Steveo036940 06-25-2020 09:03 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1102068)
Please try to think before you post...

Lol... too funny...
Agent? Thinking before posting? I suspect that would be a first.

Pathos 06-26-2020 06:09 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steveo036940 (Post 1102080)
Lol... too funny...
Agent? Thinking before posting? I suspect that would be a first.

I think he does 'think' its just that his thoughts look more like a packet of cornflakes thats been ran over by a 18Tonne lorry...

Pathos 06-26-2020 06:36 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1102133)
Agent is a 'she'. Her pottymouth belies the fact shes a woman but there you go.


https://i.ibb.co/bNtrL4t/3000.png
upload pic

pisports 06-26-2020 12:34 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1102143)

Thats her without doubt.Brainwashed by MR ⊗⊗⊗⊗news king=}-

StealthHarry 06-28-2020 04:05 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
The other option of bank statement might be a light in the tunnel for us if we can put the creative sides of our brain in use :D

Pathos 06-28-2020 04:27 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthHarry (Post 1102599)
The other option of bank statement might be a light in the tunnel for us if we can put the creative sides of our brain in use :D

PHoto Id will more than likely still be required for accounts over the EU money laundering limit.

Bigblackdog 06-28-2020 04:32 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1102601)
PHoto Id will more than likely still be required for accounts over the EU money laundering limit.

It will be required in all cases IMO. Ebay will be using MP to 'clean up' the site - once again IMO

StealthHarry 06-28-2020 04:35 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Photo ID will definitely be required but it’s not as if PayPals never asked for Photo ID

I don’t think they’ll do the checks - it wouldn’t make sense, Amazon does it - eBay has always been the Wild West and if they do do such a thing they’ll be like a copy cat amazon rather than a eBay IMO could be wrong

Bigblackdog 06-28-2020 04:44 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
I posted this in another thread - just my views on where Ebay is trying to be

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog (Post 1102489)
Ebay want to play in the same game as Amazon and Etsy

Since the split from Paypal it could be argued that they are not as efficient as the rest of the market as they rely on a 3rd party payment processor

When Etsy, a relative upstart compared to Ebay, dropped Paypal they showed the way to increase the control they had over their marketplace and increase their profits

I do not believe stealthers even appeared in the discussions. Much as we may like to big up our own importancs we are collectively little more than a pimple to be scratched as far as Ebay is concerned

There is also the matter of security

The type of operation that required lots of Ebay accounts that were getting burned or were dealing 'unauthorised' lookee lickie items and suspect digital downloads will now be a thing of the past

It may well be that the market in stealth acvounts will also disappear. There is no real market in Amazon or Etsy accounts

That is not to say that Ebay stealth will disappear, there will always be a need and where there is a need a market place will develop

Whether or not it will be legal is a seperate matter but people will always finf a way

There are already several ways but their legality is suspect and the costs will be high

Ebay will live with the fact that some will get through their security screen

The real loosers will be the scammers with their 20+ accounts dealing what Ebay do not want

I think Ebay will be safer for Joe Public and MAY get some credibility back


james_112233 06-28-2020 06:16 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthHarry (Post 1102605)
Photo ID will definitely be required but it’s not as if PayPals never asked for Photo ID

I don’t think they’ll do the checks - it wouldn’t make sense, Amazon does it - eBay has always been the Wild West and if they do do such a thing they’ll be like a copy cat amazon rather than a eBay IMO could be wrong

This is exactly why they are cleaning up the site. That perception of eBay being the wild west. How does that attract more buyers to the platform if people think of eBay as the wild west ?

Pathos 06-28-2020 07:07 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog (Post 1102604)
It will be required in all cases IMO. Ebay will be using MP to 'clean up' the site - once again IMO

I agree, but if you state something as a 'fact' on this site , then someone who is always right (but often wrong) with another 'fact' throws a hissy fit that his fact is more of a fact lol.

I personally think it will be mandatory, however PayPal havent ask for ID if you are found on their credit searchs/electoral roll check etc. But even still, if you pass that, then you will have ID, so it matters now.

rsot 06-28-2020 07:34 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Welcome to the forum LloydB - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:


Pathos 06-28-2020 07:40 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1102629)
Welcome to the forum LloydB - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:

http://youtu.be/TLcuTISVs3s

Bellend...

JamesNorth101 06-28-2020 09:32 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Note how he put IMO - that stands for ‘in my opinion’

Not stating that it’s a fact. An opinion. Could well be right

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1102624)
I agree, but if you state something as a 'fact' on this site , then someone who is always right (but often wrong) with another 'fact' throws a hissy fit that his fact is more of a fact lol.

I personally think it will be mandatory, however PayPal havent ask for ID if you are found on their credit searchs/electoral roll check etc. But even still, if you pass that, then you will have ID, so it matters now.


Pathos 06-28-2020 09:55 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1102655)
Note how he put IMO - that stands for ‘in my opinion’

Not stating that it’s a fact. An opinion. Could well be right

Everything in 'Stealth' is opinion based, thats not something that really needs to be rewritten everytime, unless for pendantic folk, so I can understand why he did.

JamesNorth101 06-28-2020 11:17 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Some things are facts. Using the same browser without separating cookies across a few accounts will eventually get you linked. Fact for example

The problem is you say it’s a fact and that it’s 100% certain and then don’t actually demonstrate why it’s a fact or a 100% certainty. Nothing to back it up. That is when it becomes scaremongering

Pathos 06-28-2020 11:31 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1102679)
Some things are facts. Using the same browser without separating cookies across a few accounts will eventually get you linked. Fact for example

The problem is you say it’s a fact and that it’s 100% certain and then don’t actually demonstrate why it’s a fact or a 100% certainty. Nothing to back it up. That is when it becomes scaremongering

Plenty to back up , you choosing to not accept the information and evidence, is your opinion.

FACT - Ayden use ID verification software as demonstrated on their website

JN's OPINION (written as fact) - they may or may not use it

You have always had a severe issue with accepting that you are wrong (we saw that in your horrendous handling of your account sales to me), so while you keep voicing your personal rhetoric while offering pretty much no information or any major engagment in discussion about the MP process, it presents your colours more than it dosent.

Of course, you won't accept this as a fact, as your opinion is the fact is wrong. lol

:violin:

JamesNorth101 06-28-2020 11:54 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Adyen does have the ability to do that yes. With Etsy however they don’t utilise it as much as they could and we didnt know if with eBay they would or they wouldn’t. Note the tense used. PayPal also had the same ability they just didn’t use it

If I ever sold you an account it must have been many years ago. If your still hung up on it feel free to pop me over a PM explaining the issue. Your constant attacking is getting very very tedious though and your personal bias is blinding you. Your constant aggression is becoming repetitive

Pathos 06-28-2020 11:59 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1102694)
Adyen does have the ability to do that yes. With Etsy however they don’t utilise it as much as they could and we didnt know if with eBay they would or they wouldn’t. Note the tense used. PayPal also had the same ability they just didn’t use it

They do. Plus, with lurking deadlines for people who have huge turnover accounts, taking a chance on a system that is in place being used or not is not really an option for most. The fact that you may or may not have secret information, or delete posts referencing it, will be upsetting to others too I imagine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1102694)
If I ever sold you an account it must have been many years ago. If your still hung up on it feel free to pop me over a PM explaining the issue. Your constant attacking is getting very very tedious though and your personal bias is blinding you. Your constant aggression is becoming repetitive

https://i.ibb.co/VWrwGJL/13953783092-54352f67f8-o.jpg

Bigblackdog 06-28-2020 12:14 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Would anyone like another saucer of milk?

Pathos 06-28-2020 12:31 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog (Post 1102701)
Would anyone like another saucer of milk?

Cream possible?

How are you getting on with your Stealth MP account?

JamesNorth101 06-28-2020 12:39 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1102697)

I have not attacked you I have simply asked you to stop saying things are 100% a fact and certain to happen when you don't know that they are... Simple as that. There is nothing personal in it. Its to keep what we know about MP to the facts and to stop people getting mixed up between facts and what is just your opinion because you present them as the same thing. If your able to do that then there is no issue this end.

Bigblackdog 06-28-2020 12:46 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1102702)
Cream possible?

How are you getting on with your Stealth MP account?

Approved;)

Pathos 06-28-2020 01:05 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1102706)
I have not attacked you I have simply asked you to stop saying things are 100% a fact and certain to happen when you don't know that they are... Simple as that. There is nothing personal in it. Its to keep what we know about MP to the facts and to stop people getting mixed up between facts and what is just your opinion because you present them as the same thing. If your able to do that then there is no issue this end.

If you can prove your 'facts' I will happily stand corrected, until then, its your opinion presented as fact.

Pathos 06-28-2020 01:07 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog (Post 1102709)
Approved;)

Good news for you!

Is that just the initial approval? or have you sent in relevant ID?

Bigblackdog 06-28-2020 01:21 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1102719)
Good news for you!

Is that just the initial approval? or have you sent in relevant ID?

All finished:spy:

Bigblackdog 06-28-2020 01:23 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1102719)
Good news for you!

Is that just the initial approval? or have you sent in relevant ID?

Do you feel perhaps that PM may be better some times? Just saying . . .:thumb:

User220 06-28-2020 03:10 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog (Post 1102726)
All finished:spy:

Could you explain how you got around it and what details the asked for please

Bigblackdog 06-28-2020 03:12 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by User220 (Post 1102739)
Could you explain how you got around it and what details the asked for please

Read through my answers on this thread

LloydB 07-16-2020 02:36 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quick update. Uploaded stealth Bank statement and was approved. I have also uploaded stealth ID but have yet to hear back. How long does the process for checking ID usually take?

ethanhunt 07-17-2020 07:32 PM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LloydB (Post 1106121)
Quick update. Uploaded stealth Bank statement and was approved. I have also uploaded stealth ID but have yet to hear back. How long does the process for checking ID usually take?

The first account I submitted on July 13, the process for checking ID took just 2-3 hours.

However, the second account I submitted on July 15, nothing yet.

ross88 07-18-2020 10:26 AM

Re: Been asked for ID after registering for MP.....
 
Hi Ethan, thanks for sharing your info! Did you use the same stealth docs you used to verify Paypal with the account that's been approved? How did you get past bank mismatch? i have a Natwest Savers Account. Just wondering what you got through with? Cheers


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