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seller0 04-13-2021 08:51 PM

Re: Managed Payments possible solution
 
He is crazy maybe?
can system see that bank account is on different name or cant see like with paypal?

bytor3k 04-13-2021 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by seller0 (Post 1149255)
...can system see that bank account is on different name or cant see like with paypal?

Depends on which verification process you use, which has been discussed ad nauseam on other threads.

thepianoman 04-15-2021 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bytor3k (Post 1149252)
No they don't. My 100% stealth MP account has been enrolled since 11/2020 and has had 2377 transactions and over $50k pumped through it and is still going strong.

100% stealth means ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ dob, and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ssn

You mean fa*ke everything you use and it still goes through? Wouldn't everyone do that if that just worked? It can't be this simple.

mjgo 04-15-2021 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by slokor (Post 1149247)
Sorry but thats nonsense.
They VERIFY the SSN and DOB. On ALL accounts that enroll in MP. Its an automated system.
No way around that (other than some workaround involving business accts and EINs/LLCs - which I highly doubt hes providing).
So again the question is - how does he get his accts enrolled in MP without that particular information?

I enrolled 1 stealth account on MP and left the stealth info as it was and just made up the SSN last 4. I sold an item and got payout. I know at some point I will have a problem because ebay will ask for the full SSN and I assume they will verify. I just wanted to test it out and it worked

agent006140 04-17-2021 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bytor3k (Post 1149252)
No they don't. My 100% stealth MP account has been enrolled since 11/2020 and has had 2377 transactions and over $50k pumped through it and is still going strong.

100% stealth means ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ dob, and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ssn

come end of 2021,Ebay/AYDEN will need a valid SSN t o give you a 1099K.
IF THAT ⊗⊗⊗⊗ SSN is a valid number,that poor guy will hear from IRS why he did not declare his Ebay income in his tax return.

bytor3k 04-17-2021 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1149700)
come end of 2021,Ebay/AYDEN will need a valid SSN t o give you a 1099K.
IF THAT ⊗⊗⊗⊗ SSN is a valid number,that poor guy will hear from IRS why he did not declare his Ebay income in his tax return.

No he won't, he will never here from the IRS because the IRS requires that the SSN, name, and DOB all match to form an identity. How do you think all the illegals in the US get away with using other people's SSNs? Also dead people can't complain.

purposeremo 04-17-2021 12:37 PM

Re: Managed Payments possible solution
 
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Originally Posted by seller0 (Post 1149140)
one person told me his stealth accounts are working as normal without the need to apply for eBay managed payments. Why is this possible well first of all we first sign up in other country and making the account fully verified then we change the item location by adding a dispatch address in the UK or USA. Now you don't need to worry about the eBay managed payments because we are using the system from the other country.Your customers will have no way of knowing this as the item always shows its located in the same country as yourself.

Which country did you sign up at? And don't you need a residential ip in that country in order for it to work since data center IP's don't work for creation?

seller0 04-17-2021 03:23 PM

Re: Managed Payments possible solution
 
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Originally Posted by mjgo (Post 1149452)
I enrolled 1 stealth account on MP and left the stealth info as it was and just made up the SSN last 4. I sold an item and got payout. I know at some point I will have a problem because ebay will ask for the full SSN and I assume they will verify. I just wanted to test it out and it worked

Any problems so far?

mjgo 04-17-2021 04:20 PM

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Not so far its been a little over a month I am going to list more stuff and see what happens. Nothing crazy I am very conservative and spread my sales.

baccaratman 04-21-2021 03:42 PM

Re: Managed Payments possible solution
 
Any nee updates?

Cronchy 04-22-2021 07:06 PM

Re: Managed Payments possible solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mjgo (Post 1149452)
I enrolled 1 stealth account on MP and left the stealth info as it was and just made up the SSN last 4. I sold an item and got payout. I know at some point I will have a problem because ebay will ask for the full SSN and I assume they will verify. I just wanted to test it out and it worked

Any updates? Are you using an Individual or Business acct? I wonder if switching to Business and using an EIN will prevent them from asking for your full SSN, since a 1099 can be issued to an EIN.

mjgo 04-22-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cronchy (Post 1150555)
Any updates? Are you using an Individual or Business acct? I wonder if switching to Business and using an EIN will prevent them from asking for your full SSN, since a 1099 can be issued to an EIN.

I have both individual and business. With EIN ebay still wants SSN

Cronchy 04-23-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mjgo (Post 1150578)
I have both individual and business. With EIN ebay still wants SSN

With an EIN (biz account) did they ask for the full SSN or only the last-4?

I seriously hope there's a workaround for those who can't use their SSN or want more than one account. Ebay must have LOVED coming up with this little spin, to keep st**lth accounts away.:help:

aspkin 04-23-2021 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cronchy (Post 1150742)
With an EIN (biz account) did they ask for the full SSN or only the last-4?

I seriously hope there's a workaround for those who can't use their SSN or want more than one account. Ebay must have LOVED coming up with this little spin, to keep st**lth accounts away.:help:

Eh, that wasn't their goal. Moving to their own payment system increases their control and most importantly their profits. Staying with PayPal in the past was only tolerated because it made sense at the time..

Cronchy 04-23-2021 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by aspkin (Post 1150756)
Eh, that wasn't their goal. Moving to their own payment system increases their control and most importantly their profits. Staying with PayPal in the past was only tolerated because it made sense at the time..

Aye, but it certainly worked out in their favor. Here's hoping we can find a workaround and not need to use our SSN. Some of us cant :)

Beekay 04-24-2021 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cronchy (Post 1150760)
Aye, but it certainly worked out in their favor. Here's hoping we can find a workaround and not need to use our SSN. Some of us cant :)


READ THE THREADS.....Most sayin xxxx ss#, xxxx dob and bank account and you good so far...I open 10 accounts so far..I already got 2 with info and they good....play around with it..so far so good for me

rsot 04-24-2021 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Beekay (Post 1150769)
READ THE THREADS.....Most sayin xxxx ss#, xxxx dob and bank account and you good so far...I open 10 accounts so far..I already got 2 with info and they good....play around with it..so far so good for me

While playing with xxxx ssn# is illegal, ppl who don't have proper ssn will be experimenting with this to keep their usa accounts alive in all likelihood

Cronchy 04-24-2021 03:00 PM

Re: Managed Payments possible solution
 
Thanks, guys. I appreciate the info. I hope it keeps working and that they (Ebay) either give up on requiring an SSN or DON'T pick up on that XXXX SS# workaround.

For those who've had this work, can you shoot us an update now and then? Curious to see how it pans out in the long-term.

purposeremo 04-24-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1150785)
While playing with xxxx ssn# is illegal, ppl who don't have proper ssn will be experimenting with this to keep their usa accounts alive in all likelihood

Wait entering a fak*e last 4 ssn is illegal into the ebay system?

Beekay 04-27-2021 06:28 PM

Re: Managed Payments possible solution
 
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Originally Posted by purposeremo (Post 1150860)
Wait entering a fak*e last 4 ssn is illegal into the ebay system?

He always saying stuff lol...Just use your last 4 of your ein instead of ss# and you be good...If a issue comes up just say you put the last 4 of your ein by mistake because its a business...Then u will have to convert to a business acc...Either way u gonna be good..last 4 of the ein is your number too..

Beekay 04-27-2021 06:32 PM

Re: Managed Payments possible solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1150785)
While playing with xxxx ssn# is illegal, ppl who don't have proper ssn will be experimenting with this to keep their usa accounts alive in all likelihood




Dude you always saying sideways stuff...I use last 4 of my ein in my personal account to yry it out and its good...Hey issue comes up i just say i mistakely inputed my ein instead of my Ss#...Issue fixed lol...

Cronchy 04-27-2021 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Beekay (Post 1151304)
Dude you always saying sideways stuff...I use last 4 of my ein in my personal account to yry it out and its good...Hey issue comes up i just say i mistakely inputed my ein instead of my Ss#...Issue fixed lol...

Thanks, man! I appreciate your help! :clap:


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