Paypal Limited - PayPal Limitations - the Definitive Thread on what to do, what not - Page 3

bigrab54 · 01-28-2008, 08:08 PM

this happend to myself a while back. they wanted tracking codes of my last 20 items or so and they where after proof i had items in my posession. a real pain and took a life time to sort. i had use of my friends luckily and was able to keep selling but a nightmare never the less.

DogFacedBoy · 01-28-2008, 09:11 PM

This is BS. Last fall I had PP do the same thing to me, luckily I only had to come up with docs for 4 items, but it was a pain. Is it hidden anywhere in their TOS that you must provide delivery confirmation and supplier info? How can anyone do so after the fact?
You could always go to a local store, buy the jackets, copy the receipt so you can send it to PP and then bring the jackets back. You can also mail empty packages with delivery confirmation. A lot of work, but might be worth it if the PP account is that valuble and worth saving.

f1br3opt1c · 01-29-2008, 10:26 AM

I have all the needed transactions and tracking number.

I have emailed them all of tthat as i just got this email:

To review your limitation in a timely way, please include the tracking
information as bellow:
Tracking Number:
Shipping Company& URL:
Buyers Email Address:
Buyers Shipping Address Supplied to Seller:
Transaction Date:
Transaction Amount:
PayPal Transaction ID:

- Submit copies of the original bills of sale or invoices referencing your
purchase or acquisition of the items you are selling along with the name
and telephone number of your supplier(s) for the following transactions:
06D53335XU159060B
43V48111JC190272N
67J34754HJ5842625
6FP661199H2736702
9FA72767BG767223U

I just submitted all the tracking info, but i dont have the damn invoice or reciept

DogFacedBoy · 01-29-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f1br3opt1c

I have all the needed transactions and tracking number.

I have emailed them all of tthat as i just got this email:

To review your limitation in a timely way, please include the tracking
information as bellow:
Tracking Number:
Shipping Company& URL:
Buyers Email Address:
Buyers Shipping Address Supplied to Seller:
Transaction Date:
Transaction Amount:
PayPal Transaction ID:

- Submit copies of the original bills of sale or invoices referencing your
purchase or acquisition of the items you are selling along with the name
and telephone number of your supplier(s) for the following transactions:
06D53335XU159060B
43V48111JC190272N
67J34754HJ5842625
6FP661199H2736702
9FA72767BG767223U

I just submitted all the tracking info, but i dont have the damn invoice or reciept

Just go out and buy some, copy the receipt and bring them back. They are so stupid they won't even check the date on it. I've done this before.

DogFacedBoy · 01-29-2008, 05:46 PM

All it would have to do is be something that says "outwear" or similar. For as much as they ask you to supply it has been my experience that they really don't examine them too critically

ebayhateluv · 01-29-2008, 07:39 PM

HI, F1br3:
Welcome!
I can give you someone to guide you in the right direction.. pm, ivegotinfo.
(He has had similar issues, and has the keys to success in this area)

sdot10 · 01-29-2008, 10:11 PM

Ok so heres the deal. I have an account verified with fake info and such. Had a transaction for 1600 and paypal immediately limited. The guy is actually really cool and hates paypal too so he understands my frustration (i wont send until paypal unlimits me) I have another fake account that I can use. Im going to refund his money and then have him send it to the other account.

Now I noticed that paypal does not limit your account until you make a move ie send the money to someone else, try to withdraw it, etc and all of those things my old roommate and I starting talking and what if instead you bought stuff but you knew exactly what you wanted and as soon as the money went in you went on a 2 minutes shopping spree. Most times it takes hours to limit you after you send a big amount to someone else or try to withdraw the money so I think in theory it will work. Since paypal cant withdraw the money from like footlocker like it can reverse a bank transfer or a member to member payment

Thoughts?

ebayhateluv · 01-29-2008, 11:20 PM

HI- Sdot10:
Yes, a couple other folks brought up this very thing the other day.. Looks like it may work.
Savahaganda, Mr. Josh made some very good posts.. check them out!

f1br3opt1c · 01-30-2008, 06:55 AM

Every business must balance its exposure to risk with its business goals.
At this time, we are not comfortable with the amount of risk your business
exposes itself to.

We would like to begin the process of ending our relationship in a manner
that is least disruptive to your business.

Please log in to your PayPal account and fill out the Limited Account
Access form to let us know what to do with the funds remaining in your
PayPal account.

- Log in to your PayPal account
- Click "Contact Us" and then "Contact PayPal Customer Service"
- Choose the topic "Limited Account Access," click "Continue," and write
your instructions in the message box.

-----------------------------------
Disbursement Options
-----------------------------------

1. Your remaining account balance can be used to provide refunds to your
buyers (if applicable).

If you choose to provide refunds to your buyers, please provide a list of
transaction IDs for the buyers that you would like to refund.

OR

2. Your remaining funds will be held in your PayPal account for 180 days
from the date your account was limited. After 180 days, you will be
notified via email about how to receive your remaining funds.

We thank you for your prompt attention to this matter and regret any
inconvenience this may cause.

Sincerely,
PayPal Account Review Department

This is what i got from them today

I really hate them, i use this account to earn extra money to pay for my mum's medical bills. I have 400USD in there which i need to pay for the bills which are due in a few days. Why did they do this to me!

I just created a new id under my friends info and on his computer, i was thinking if i could refund some customers who already got their item and ask them to send the money to the new account. But i was thinkin, im sure the idiots would suspend the new account too because its recieving too much money when it was just opened.

f1br3opt1c · 01-30-2008, 06:56 AM

What do you guys think? Please give me advice. I have two items that are ending soon which are about 100USD each.

Do you think its wise to ask them to pay to my new paypal account? Recieving too much big money would cause suspiscion right?

ebayhateluv · 01-30-2008, 07:15 AM

HI, F1br:
You would have had to ALREADY chosen a pyt method when listed...
So, if you allowed paypal, thats where the pyt will go..
(If you choose other)-- then, cant really give you advice, not knowing your own circumstances..
--Did you get that PP acct verified yet? (with the cc and bank accts)?

f1br3opt1c · 01-30-2008, 07:21 AM

I already got a new pp acc, now im buying a vcc to verify it. Then insert the expand user number

Thats all a Malaysian paypal needs

Lisa B · 01-30-2008, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DogFacedBoy

Wow does this mean you can register a bogus address and then just fill out a usps change of address and get everything forwarded to an actual address?
Kind of does for snail mail what GrandCentral did for phone verification

I wouldn't recommend it.

When I moved in with my Sister last year I filled out one of those USPS change of address cards requesting all my mail be FORWARDED to my new address, my Sisters house.

Not sure who/what/how/when/why but I started receiving the majority of my mail addressed to me at with my new address, my Sisters address, I recevied only a few "forwarded" pieces of mail with the yellow sticker on them.

The only thing I can think of is I was applying for some credit cards around that time and maybe that's how all my bill collectors got wind of my new address and made the changes on their end and started their snail mail assault on me.

Get this..........those fucnuts at PayPal got a hold of my new address because they addressed and mailed the bill to my new address.

So when I signed up for a new PayPal account, I definitely used a fake address.

I never gave my new address to anyone, no bill collectors, no nothing.

Hope this helps

Rosanna · 01-30-2008, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f1br3opt1c

Every business must balance its exposure to risk with its business goals.
At this time, we are not comfortable with the amount of risk your business
exposes itself to.

We would like to begin the process of ending our relationship in a manner
that is least disruptive to your business.

Please log in to your PayPal account and fill out the Limited Account
Access form to let us know what to do with the funds remaining in your
PayPal account.

- Log in to your PayPal account
- Click "Contact Us" and then "Contact PayPal Customer Service"
- Choose the topic "Limited Account Access," click "Continue," and write
your instructions in the message box.

-----------------------------------
Disbursement Options
-----------------------------------

1. Your remaining account balance can be used to provide refunds to your
buyers (if applicable).

If you choose to provide refunds to your buyers, please provide a list of
transaction IDs for the buyers that you would like to refund.

OR

2. Your remaining funds will be held in your PayPal account for 180 days
from the date your account was limited. After 180 days, you will be
notified via email about how to receive your remaining funds.

We thank you for your prompt attention to this matter and regret any
inconvenience this may cause.

Sincerely,
PayPal Account Review Department

This is what i got from them today

I really hate them, i use this account to earn extra money to pay for my mum's medical bills. I have 400USD in there which i need to pay for the bills which are due in a few days. Why did they do this to me!

I just created a new id under my friends info and on his computer, i was thinking if i could refund some customers who already got their item and ask them to send the money to the new account. But i was thinkin, im sure the idiots would suspend the new account too because its recieving too much money when it was just opened.

Forget about it and start fresh. Try to find something legit to sell or see older postings about creating an invoice, good luck,

arysmith · 02-16-2008, 10:14 PM

I withdrew or at least attempted to withdraw $1500 from my account. Then I paid EBay for about $250 in fees from my PayPal account.

PayPal limited me and cancelled my withdrawal because of their double secret requirements, but they still allowed the payment to stand despite the fear of fraud.

PayPal and EBay: making the rules up as they go along. Heads they win, tails I lose.

soulassasin · 02-17-2008, 02:31 AM

I recently started selling on ebay. Ive got about $1000 usd in my account and its been limited. All I can do is accept money and update user info.

They only want two things from me:

1- ID (drivers licence)

2- Sufficient proof of inventory

All my info with them is legit so I have no problem giving them my drivers licence as proof of identity.

My problem is with "proof of inventory" you see im a drop shipper and so althought I have recipts for the stuff i have sold, they are all dated after the auctions end times. In other words ive been selling stuff on ebay I dont have untill someone pays me, then I pay a third party to send it to them.

Also ive been paying my supplier out of my paypal account so they already have these records! (Although the payments dont specify what they are for.)

So should I bull**** some invoices? or give them my dropshipping ones (actual invoices but dated after actually selling the items)

Also if I cant sort this out will I at least be able to get my $1000 out? at 180 days does it just lift to allow withdrawl?

Sorrry for this long winded query!

Hope someone experienced can help!

mantisinc · 02-17-2008, 07:17 AM

If you give them proof of your identity (offer to pass on other documents to prove you are genuine), and explain the situation of your dropshipping.

You can forward them receipts of payments to your drop shipping (paypal statements, bank statements, etc). That should be fine.

It's probably a routine paypal money laundering check that you will have to pass. If all fails, after 180 days they will just mail a cheque to your address of how much you have left in your account. So really, the worst case scenario is a 180 day hold.

01-29-2008, 07:39 PM	#46 (permalink)
ebayhateluv eBay Authority iTrader: (7) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Land of the Free, Home of the Brave Posts: 2,508 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Activity: 7% Longevity: 60%	HI, F1br3: Welcome! I can give you someone to guide you in the right direction.. pm, ivegotinfo. (He has had similar issues, and has the keys to success in this area) __________________ *Always.. Be the BEST you can Be, at Whatever you do! Be Part of the Solution, rather than Part of the Problem.*

01-29-2008, 10:11 PM	#47 (permalink)
sdot10 eBay Enthusiast iTrader: (0) Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 120 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 51%	How long do i have? Can I buy stuff? Ok so heres the deal. I have an account verified with fake info and such. Had a transaction for 1600 and paypal immediately limited. The guy is actually really cool and hates paypal too so he understands my frustration (i wont send until paypal unlimits me) I have another fake account that I can use. Im going to refund his money and then have him send it to the other account. Now I noticed that paypal does not limit your account until you make a move ie send the money to someone else, try to withdraw it, etc and all of those things my old roommate and I starting talking and what if instead you bought stuff but you knew exactly what you wanted and as soon as the money went in you went on a 2 minutes shopping spree. Most times it takes hours to limit you after you send a big amount to someone else or try to withdraw the money so I think in theory it will work. Since paypal cant withdraw the money from like footlocker like it can reverse a bank transfer or a member to member payment Thoughts?

01-29-2008, 11:20 PM	#48 (permalink)
ebayhateluv eBay Authority iTrader: (7) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Land of the Free, Home of the Brave Posts: 2,508 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Activity: 7% Longevity: 60%	HI- Sdot10: Yes, a couple other folks brought up this very thing the other day.. Looks like it may work. Savahaganda, Mr. Josh made some very good posts.. check them out! __________________ *Always.. Be the BEST you can Be, at Whatever you do! Be Part of the Solution, rather than Part of the Problem.*

01-30-2008, 07:15 AM	#51 (permalink)
ebayhateluv eBay Authority iTrader: (7) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Land of the Free, Home of the Brave Posts: 2,508 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Activity: 7% Longevity: 60%	HI, F1br: You would have had to ALREADY chosen a pyt method when listed... So, if you allowed paypal, thats where the pyt will go.. (If you choose other)-- then, cant really give you advice, not knowing your own circumstances.. --Did you get that PP acct verified yet? (with the cc and bank accts)? __________________ *Always.. Be the BEST you can Be, at Whatever you do! Be Part of the Solution, rather than Part of the Problem.*

02-16-2008, 10:14 PM	#55 (permalink)
arysmith eBay Enthusiast iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 65%	Funny PayPal Limit I withdrew or at least attempted to withdraw $1500 from my account. Then I paid EBay for about $250 in fees from my PayPal account. PayPal limited me and cancelled my withdrawal because of their double secret requirements, but they still allowed the payment to stand despite the fear of fraud. PayPal and EBay: making the rules up as they go along. Heads they win, tails I lose.

01-28-2008, 08:08 PM	#41 (permalink)
bigrab54 MU iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 96 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 45%	this happend to myself a while back. they wanted tracking codes of my last 20 items or so and they where after proof i had items in my posession. a real pain and took a life time to sort. i had use of my friends luckily and was able to keep selling but a nightmare never the less.

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01-28-2008, 09:11 PM	#42 (permalink)
DogFacedBoy eBay Mastery iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 741 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 2% Longevity: 71%	This is BS. Last fall I had PP do the same thing to me, luckily I only had to come up with docs for 4 items, but it was a pain. Is it hidden anywhere in their TOS that you must provide delivery confirmation and supplier info? How can anyone do so after the fact? You could always go to a local store, buy the jackets, copy the receipt so you can send it to PP and then bring the jackets back. You can also mail empty packages with delivery confirmation. A lot of work, but might be worth it if the PP account is that valuble and worth saving.

01-29-2008, 10:26 AM	#43 (permalink)
f1br3opt1c eBay Enthusiast iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 89 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 6% Longevity: 45%	I have all the needed transactions and tracking number. I have emailed them all of tthat as i just got this email: To review your limitation in a timely way, please include the tracking information as bellow: Tracking Number: Shipping Company& URL: Buyers Email Address: Buyers Shipping Address Supplied to Seller: Transaction Date: Transaction Amount: PayPal Transaction ID: - Submit copies of the original bills of sale or invoices referencing your purchase or acquisition of the items you are selling along with the name and telephone number of your supplier(s) for the following transactions: 06D53335XU159060B 43V48111JC190272N 67J34754HJ5842625 6FP661199H2736702 9FA72767BG767223U I just submitted all the tracking info, but i dont have the damn invoice or reciept

01-29-2008, 05:46 PM	#45 (permalink)
DogFacedBoy eBay Mastery iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 741 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 2% Longevity: 71%	All it would have to do is be something that says "outwear" or similar. For as much as they ask you to supply it has been my experience that they really don't examine them too critically

01-30-2008, 06:55 AM	#49 (permalink)
f1br3opt1c eBay Enthusiast iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 89 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 6% Longevity: 45%	Every business must balance its exposure to risk with its business goals. At this time, we are not comfortable with the amount of risk your business exposes itself to. We would like to begin the process of ending our relationship in a manner that is least disruptive to your business. Please log in to your PayPal account and fill out the Limited Account Access form to let us know what to do with the funds remaining in your PayPal account. - Log in to your PayPal account - Click "Contact Us" and then "Contact PayPal Customer Service" - Choose the topic "Limited Account Access," click "Continue," and write your instructions in the message box. ----------------------------------- Disbursement Options ----------------------------------- 1. Your remaining account balance can be used to provide refunds to your buyers (if applicable). If you choose to provide refunds to your buyers, please provide a list of transaction IDs for the buyers that you would like to refund. OR 2. Your remaining funds will be held in your PayPal account for 180 days from the date your account was limited. After 180 days, you will be notified via email about how to receive your remaining funds. We thank you for your prompt attention to this matter and regret any inconvenience this may cause. Sincerely, PayPal Account Review Department This is what i got from them today I really hate them, i use this account to earn extra money to pay for my mum's medical bills. I have 400USD in there which i need to pay for the bills which are due in a few days. Why did they do this to me! I just created a new id under my friends info and on his computer, i was thinking if i could refund some customers who already got their item and ask them to send the money to the new account. But i was thinkin, im sure the idiots would suspend the new account too because its recieving too much money when it was just opened.

01-30-2008, 06:56 AM	#50 (permalink)
f1br3opt1c eBay Enthusiast iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 89 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 6% Longevity: 45%	What do you guys think? Please give me advice. I have two items that are ending soon which are about 100USD each. Do you think its wise to ask them to pay to my new paypal account? Recieving too much big money would cause suspiscion right?

01-30-2008, 07:21 AM	#52 (permalink)
f1br3opt1c eBay Enthusiast iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 89 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 6% Longevity: 45%	I already got a new pp acc, now im buying a vcc to verify it. Then insert the expand user number Thats all a Malaysian paypal needs

02-17-2008, 02:31 AM	#56 (permalink)
soulassasin eBay Newbie iTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 41%	I think im in trouble. Help? I recently started selling on ebay. Ive got about $1000 usd in my account and its been limited. All I can do is accept money and update user info. They only want two things from me: 1- ID (drivers licence) 2- Sufficient proof of inventory All my info with them is legit so I have no problem giving them my drivers licence as proof of identity. My problem is with "proof of inventory" you see im a drop shipper and so althought I have recipts for the stuff i have sold, they are all dated after the auctions end times. In other words ive been selling stuff on ebay I dont have untill someone pays me, then I pay a third party to send it to them. Also ive been paying my supplier out of my paypal account so they already have these records! (Although the payments dont specify what they are for.) So should I bull**** some invoices? or give them my dropshipping ones (actual invoices but dated after actually selling the items) Also if I cant sort this out will I at least be able to get my $1000 out? at 180 days does it just lift to allow withdrawl? Sorrry for this long winded query! Hope someone experienced can help!

02-17-2008, 07:17 AM	#57 (permalink)
mantisinc Subscribed Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,114 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Activity: 36% Longevity: 44%	If you give them proof of your identity (offer to pass on other documents to prove you are genuine), and explain the situation of your dropshipping. You can forward them receipts of payments to your drop shipping (paypal statements, bank statements, etc). That should be fine. It's probably a routine paypal money laundering check that you will have to pass. If all fails, after 180 days they will just mail a cheque to your address of how much you have left in your account. So really, the worst case scenario is a 180 day hold.