Paypal Limited - PayPal Limitations - the Definitive Thread on what to do, what not

[DogFacedBoy]

All it would have to do is be something that says "outwear" or similar. For as much as they ask you to supply it has been my experience that they really don't examine them too critically

[ebayhateluv]

HI, F1br3:
Welcome!
I can give you someone to guide you in the right direction.. pm, ivegotinfo.
(He has had similar issues, and has the keys to success in this area)

[sdot10]

Ok so heres the deal. I have an account verified with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info and such. Had a transaction for 1600 and paypal immediately limited. The guy is actually really cool and hates paypal too so he understands my frustration (i wont send until paypal unlimits me) I have another ⊗⊗⊗⊗ account that I can use. Im going to refund his money and then have him send it to the other account.

Now I noticed that paypal does not limit your account until you make a move ie send the money to someone else, try to withdraw it, etc and all of those things my old roommate and I starting talking and what if instead you bought stuff but you knew exactly what you wanted and as soon as the money went in you went on a 2 minutes shopping spree. Most times it takes hours to limit you after you send a big amount to someone else or try to withdraw the money so I think in theory it will work. Since paypal cant withdraw the money from like footlocker like it can reverse a bank transfer or a member to member payment

Thoughts?

[ebayhateluv]

HI- Sdot10:
Yes, a couple other folks brought up this very thing the other day.. Looks like it may work.
Savahaganda, Mr. Josh made some very good posts.. check them out!

[f1br3opt1c]

Every business must balance its exposure to risk with its business goals.
At this time, we are not comfortable with the amount of risk your business
exposes itself to.

We would like to begin the process of ending our relationship in a manner
that is least disruptive to your business.

Please log in to your PayPal account and fill out the Limited Account
Access form to let us know what to do with the funds remaining in your
PayPal account.


- Log in to your PayPal account
- Click "Contact Us" and then "Contact PayPal Customer Service"
- Choose the topic "Limited Account Access," click "Continue," and write
your instructions in the message box.


-----------------------------------
Disbursement Options
-----------------------------------

1. Your remaining account balance can be used to provide refunds to your
buyers (if applicable).

If you choose to provide refunds to your buyers, please provide a list of
transaction IDs for the buyers that you would like to refund.

OR

2. Your remaining funds will be held in your PayPal account for 180 days
from the date your account was limited. After 180 days, you will be
notified via email about how to receive your remaining funds.

We thank you for your prompt attention to this matter and regret any
inconvenience this may cause.

Sincerely,
PayPal Account Review Department

This is what i got from them today :(

I really hate them, i use this account to earn extra money to pay for my mum's medical bills. I have 400USD in there which i need to pay for the bills which are due in a few days. Why did they do this to me! :(

I just created a new id under my friends info and on his computer, i was thinking if i could refund some customers who already got their item and ask them to send the money to the new account. But i was thinkin, im sure the idiots would suspend the new account too because its recieving too much money when it was just opened.

[f1br3opt1c]

What do you guys think? Please give me advice. I have two items that are ending soon which are about 100USD each.

Do you think its wise to ask them to pay to my new paypal account? Recieving too much big money would cause suspiscion right? :(

[ebayhateluv]

HI, F1br:
You would have had to ALREADY chosen a pyt method when listed...
So, if you allowed paypal, thats where the pyt will go..
(If you choose other)-- then, cant really give you advice, not knowing your own circumstances..
--Did you get that PP acct verified yet? (with the cc and bank accts)?

[f1br3opt1c]

I already got a new pp acc, now im buying a vcc to verify it. Then insert the expand user number

Thats all a Malaysian paypal needs

[Lisa B]

Originally Posted by DogFacedBoy

Wow does this mean you can register a bogus address and then just fill out a usps change of address and get everything forwarded to an actual address?
Kind of does for snail mail what GrandCentral did for phone verification

I wouldn't recommend it.

When I moved in with my Sister last year I filled out one of those USPS change of address cards requesting all my mail be FORWARDED to my new address, my Sisters house.

Not sure who/what/how/when/why but I started receiving the majority of my mail addressed to me at with my new address, my Sisters address, I recevied only a few "forwarded" pieces of mail with the yellow sticker on them.

The only thing I can think of is I was applying for some credit cards around that time and maybe that's how all my bill collectors got wind of my new address and made the changes on their end and started their snail mail assault on me.

Get this..........those fucnuts at PayPal got a hold of my new address because they addressed and mailed the bill to my new address.

So when I signed up for a new PayPal account, I definitely used a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address.

I never gave my new address to anyone, no bill collectors, no nothing.

Hope this helps

[Rosanna]

Originally Posted by f1br3opt1c

Every business must balance its exposure to risk with its business goals.
At this time, we are not comfortable with the amount of risk your business
exposes itself to.

We would like to begin the process of ending our relationship in a manner
that is least disruptive to your business.

Please log in to your PayPal account and fill out the Limited Account
Access form to let us know what to do with the funds remaining in your
PayPal account.


- Log in to your PayPal account
- Click "Contact Us" and then "Contact PayPal Customer Service"
- Choose the topic "Limited Account Access," click "Continue," and write
your instructions in the message box.


-----------------------------------
Disbursement Options
-----------------------------------

1. Your remaining account balance can be used to provide refunds to your
buyers (if applicable).

If you choose to provide refunds to your buyers, please provide a list of
transaction IDs for the buyers that you would like to refund.

OR

2. Your remaining funds will be held in your PayPal account for 180 days
from the date your account was limited. After 180 days, you will be
notified via email about how to receive your remaining funds.

We thank you for your prompt attention to this matter and regret any
inconvenience this may cause.

Sincerely,
PayPal Account Review Department

This is what i got from them today :(

I really hate them, i use this account to earn extra money to pay for my mum's medical bills. I have 400USD in there which i need to pay for the bills which are due in a few days. Why did they do this to me! :(

I just created a new id under my friends info and on his computer, i was thinking if i could refund some customers who already got their item and ask them to send the money to the new account. But i was thinkin, im sure the idiots would suspend the new account too because its recieving too much money when it was just opened.

Forget about it and start fresh. Try to find something legit to sell or see older postings about creating an invoice, good luck,

[arysmith]

I withdrew or at least attempted to withdraw $1500 from my account. Then I paid EBay for about $250 in fees from my PayPal account.

PayPal limited me and cancelled my withdrawal because of their double secret requirements, but they still allowed the payment to stand despite the fear of fraud.

PayPal and EBay: making the rules up as they go along. Heads they win, tails I lose.

[soulassasin]

I recently started selling on ebay. Ive got about $1000 usd in my account and its been limited. All I can do is accept money and update user info.

They only want two things from me:

1- ID (drivers licence)

2- Sufficient proof of inventory

All my info with them is legit so I have no problem giving them my drivers licence as proof of identity.

My problem is with "proof of inventory" you see im a drop shipper and so althought I have recipts for the stuff i have sold, they are all dated after the auctions end times. In other words ive been selling stuff on ebay I dont have untill someone pays me, then I pay a third party to send it to them.

Also ive been paying my supplier out of my paypal account so they already have these records! (Although the payments dont specify what they are for.)

So should I bull**** some invoices? or give them my dropshipping ones (actual invoices but dated after actually selling the items)

Also if I cant sort this out will I at least be able to get my $1000 out? at 180 days does it just lift to allow withdrawl?

Sorrry for this long winded query!

Hope someone experienced can help!

[mantisinc]

If you give them proof of your identity (offer to pass on other documents to prove you are genuine), and explain the situation of your dropshipping.

You can forward them receipts of payments to your drop shipping (paypal statements, bank statements, etc). That should be fine.

It's probably a routine paypal money laundering check that you will have to pass. If all fails, after 180 days they will just mail a cheque to your address of how much you have left in your account. So really, the worst case scenario is a 180 day hold.

[mantisinc]

Welcome to the club of paypal limitations

[sycore]

LOL, Yes the never reverse payments to Ebay, despite their "security concerns"

[mantisinc]

Very true, but at the end of the day, if they are getting the cash, they don't care.

Looks like you will have a lot of verifying to do before you see that cash...

[Chris Hanson]

Dont tell them you are a dropshipper. paypal hates dropshippers..

[mantisinc]

Isn't drop shipping against ebay's terms? Because, you are not holding any physical stock.

[Chris Hanson]

Well sort of. A paypal rep told me. because they are scared a supplier will not ship products and scam you. Then paypal will be stuck with chargebacks

[soulassasin]

Cheers for all the responses guys. Yea I have my reservations about telling them im a dropshipper, I think Hanson and Mantisinc are right since I dont have any physical stock they will most likely limit me for ages and ask to part ways? Cheers Scouse ive already had a go at changing dates, I just forwarded the email invoice and edited it. Have not sent it yet wanted to hear what people thought.

My other problem might be that my products may not be genuine. I have never seen them but suspect they a bootleg DVD's. They can obviously see the pictures of the items. My supplier in china has agreed to take a whole bunch of photos for me of his stock to use so will see how that goes.

Any other things a noobie like me should know about when dealing with these theives?

[thelizardking]

Tell them its stuff you won at auction in your hometown and you don't have invoices or a receipt you bought them as a bundle as is.

[Ballsack]

Did they limit you before or after you attempted to withdraw your money?