2nd hand computer used for Amazon

[nags]

Setting up a Ghost accont for the fist time, obtained a 2nd hand XP computer.
It seems to have been used for Amazon at some point, but I doubt the user ever got banned, or even ever had a seller account.
Any reason why I shouldnt just set up VM, and skip cleaning my system?

[seanws30]

did you even read the book or search the forums? since im in an ok mood ill help you out.

step 1- read the book again
step 2- new user account on comp
step 3- new ip

dont use the new user account for anything other than the amazon account you created with said account.

[nags]

The Ghost guide says you can skip cleaning the system, if the computer hasn't been used for Amazon.
I think this means if its been used by a suspended user.
I just want confirmation of that.

[seanws30]

you dont need to clean anything if you create a new user account.

[Recherché]

Originally Posted by seanws30

you dont need to clean anything if you create a new user account.

Absolutely. Just create different user accounts on it. These accounts are 100% completely separate from each other.

[gcrusader92]

I still like to use VMWARE because I do more than one thing on my computer and dont want to switch users.

[nags]

The Ghost guide says different user accounts isnt enough. Amazon track your computer MAC code. Thats why you need VM if you want more than one Amazon account.

[Recherché]

Originally Posted by nags

The Ghost guide says different user accounts isnt enough. Amazon track your computer MAC code. Thats why you need VM if you want more than one Amazon account.

Isn't enough eh? I've been using the same computer to log into all my Amazon accounts since 2008. I have six accounts running now but also have had 5 accounts suspended in past using same computer. Have never used VMWare.

I use now use six different user accounts along with six different browsers logging into Amazon using simple dial-up. You must be referring to router MAC address as I have never heard Amazon tracking your computer MAC, if there is such a thing.

[EbanYtsa]

thats a pretty good idea for Myth Busters . Does amzon track your MAC?''))

[nags]

Well this is the aspkin site, and the aspkin Amazon Ghost guide says Amazon track your MAC code(s)

[sleepybubba]

I've been following up the Amaz0n Ghost's advice regarding router MAC address, but from technical standpoint (and I am in IT by day) it's impossible for any site to track any MAC hidden behind the router unless Amazon uses flash or any other client software configured as such. Amazon indeed makes a use of so-called "flash cookies", which reside in Macromedia temporary directory and tag the PC between logins.

As a disclaimer, I've been using a brand new PC (as far as Amaz0n is concerned) and brand new router (my old one got bad) to create my ghost.

So... in a nutshell, if you want to continue using that second hand PC at the very minimum you should:
1) Create a brand new account on that PC
2) Install a different brand browser (if you have IE, use FireFox or vice versa); Chrome has some known limiation with Amaz0n, so use at your own risk
3) Install a new PCI Gigabit network card (to satisfy a new PC MAC requirement - optional).
4) If you use Install FireFox, download the BetterPrivacy extension (Firefox orange button -> Add-ons; search for BetterPrivacy). Once downloaded, configure to erase flash cookies on browser exit.
5) Try reconfiguring a printer and add or remove a few system fonts.
6) Definitely do not log in to Amaz0n using any other accounts.

[rsot]

Solid advice sleepybubba.

[EbanYtsa]

Originally Posted by nags

Well this is the aspkin site, and the aspkin Amazon Ghost guide says Amazon track your MAC code(s)

[ovidiu]

it's impossible for any site to track any MAC hidden behind the router unless Amazon uses flash or any other client software configured as such

They DO

[ovidiu]

it's impossible for any site to track any MAC hidden behind the router unless Amazon uses flash or any other client software configured as such

They DO use a script or software to track MAC addresses. Your PC does not have a MAC address, which is a unique identifier used for network adapters and radios. And no, you don't need to change anything about your printer. Amazon can not see that.

[nags]

Thanks sleepybubba for such definitive advice.
The way I have things set up, I get my Amazon emails downloaded to a different computer that has been used with a blocked account.
I always send any replies via Amazon website messages, but I imagine there is a risk that if images are not disabled on my email client, Amazon could ID me through that?

[sleepybubba]

Originally Posted by ovidiu

And no, you don't need to change anything about your printer. Amazon can not see that.

Actually, you are correct. There was a discussion here about this.
To see what bits of browser fingerprint info are publically available to the website, click here.

As far as tracking, Amazon most certainly uses so-called "flash cookies". You can actually see them in the BetterPrivacy plugin options in FireFox or directly go to C:\Users\<your windows account>\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia directory (Windows 7)

Nags, whatever you do - don't use Outlook for your email, or if you do - make sure to configure it for a single account only. Otherwise you are risking a simple human error - sending an email from a different address (I did this couple of times in the past on one of my blocked accounts).

[kris3841]

I suggest using a different browser for each account as well.
I have several laptops running multiple accounts and I do
everything wirelessly. If you do it wirelessly I have a feeling
they can't read the MAC addy and link the accounts. At least
it hasn't happened yet (fingers crossed).

[nags]

The wireless protects your IP address, providing you disconnect / reconnect each time you log in to a different account.
To hide your MAC addresses, disable your other Network Connections.

[oge]

I did some testing I created a new Amazon Ghost on a separate computer was going

good then it went into review and suspended I used my iphone as the internet source I

had the wifi disabled

Then I created a new Amazon Ghost account created on the iphone using the browser

listed a book hours later it sold then 2 hours later I got the linked to a suspended

account

[BiN4RY]

Guys this is Amazon, there are other things that needs to be worrying than just IP and user account. Please stop giving him false information.

Like I said, I recommend some sort of VM instead for each account.

[rsot]

@oge, what kind of cc did you use to verify the account?