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Default Should I follow 10/1 rule if its been over 90 days

Its been over 90 days since my account was closed. I will be opening a new account under a relatives name using a LLC formed under relatives name and bank account with EIN from the LLC. New ISP, new computer. Its been past 90 days. How strict should I adhere to the 10/1 rule? The only thing I am concerned about is that I live in small town >10,000 population and geo location of IP address even though its different ISP
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Its been over 90 days since my account was closed. I will be opening a new account under a relatives name using a LLC formed under relatives name and bank account with EIN from the LLC.
We don't recommend using a relatives name at all. Using a relatives info can create problems down the road, find an alternative to this.

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New ISP, new computer.
All you really need is a new IP, you can keep the same computer if you add a new user account to the PC. Now if your ISP does not give a new IP then consider a USB Modem (Dongle).

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How strict should I adhere to the 10/1 rule?
I don't know what this 10/1 rule is....

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Once an account builds some history, cookies the IP address isn't a problem really. Just need to make sure you keep cookies for each account.
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this 10/1 rule is a myth.

It's only thoughts by different users about how to list after an amazon suspension.

Not a given that it must be strictly done when listing new items.

Not been tried for a suitable time to even have a hint of being right.


Avoid the relative's info as well.

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To reiterate, the relative is not a blood relative so we do not have matching names. Step brother. Why would this be a problem? The guide went into much more detail than simply making new user accounts because of browser fingerprints. I figure if its better safe than sorry. I wasn't necessarily wanting more than one account, just want to get back in business.
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Just like anything...things change and so goes for the guides. Now we give the advice of not using a family members name.
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1. We don't use family member's names because it is not necessary to involve other people in our business affairs, especially when those people aren't aware just how not good of an idea this truly is for them to agree to

2. It's not a sustainable business practice if/when you get suspended again

3. As a followup to #2, you should learn how to create proper new accounts from the ground up, the correct way; at the end of the day you only have yourself to rely on
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Have seen success with 4:1 and 5:1 - 10:1 is just ultrasafe
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Whatever you do it is not a good idea to use any relatives information on anything.

No need to do this.

Many options out there so you do not have to.

Also many options exist for IPs if you are worried about that as well.
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Have seen success with 4:1 and 5:1 - 10:1 is just ultrasafe
Your own or from users here?

Cant find any with the lower ratios you mention.

Be interesting to see.

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I get quite a few pm's of success stuff + I do have experience with it (nothing counterfeit but my own goods) - I tell people to post some success stories but, really, it's up to the user to do it if he/she/it wants.
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I get quite a few pm's of success stuff + I do have experience with it (nothing counterfeit but my own goods) - I tell people to post some success stories but, really, it's up to the user to do it if he/she/it wants.
Really?

Yet you said you were not selling on amazon at the moment.

I guess you must have experimented ages ago, which is great.

But without more posts from others, it's a bit sketch to start up a myth about a new ratio.

Would hate to see mis-information hit the forum.
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Really?

Yet you said you were not selling on amazon at the moment.

I guess you must have experimented ages ago, which is great.

But without more posts from others, it's a bit sketch to start up a myth about a new ratio.

Would hate to see mis-information hit the forum.
I wrote few months ago that I was not selling on Az at that moment - I have seen come back and been experimenting and doing sales - not high volume but just lightly dabbling.
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I'm just curious could someone explain to me the 10/1 rule? Or myth? Thank you
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I'm just curious could someone explain to me the 10/1 rule? Or myth? Thank you
10:1 ratio rule is more like a fabricated guideline on how many same ASINs from your suspended account you can have listed on your current account. 10:1 meaning you would need 10 new ASIN's for every 1 old ASIN.

I personally have been fine with 5:1

Also, if an Amazon employee reads this forum, he'll suggest they make it 11:1, so lets just say for the sake of not getting more screwed that it's fine at 2:1

Just as much as 10:1 has been an ongoing rumor, there was also a rumor of not surpassing 53.5% for accounts suspended within the last 90 days.

The only way we'll ever really know, is if some gracious fool lists almost every same ASIN from a recent suspended account onto a new account and then tells us about it.
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