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rsot 02-22-2014 11:45 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
What does UTR stand for?

roberto 02-22-2014 11:49 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jojoharris (Post 530736)
I have opened several accounts and been running without any information like that being requested. I have also NEVER been asked for this kind of info. Why are talking about credit checks....credit checks are for exactly that...credit.

If it's happened to you then fair enough and maybe it can be figured out but that doesn't mean everyone opening a uk account is going to be asked for ID and address verification. Like I say have opened accounts no problem.

On what date did you make your last account?

MICKY H 02-22-2014 11:49 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
AV LIMITED, PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY,but you are always opening new accounts. Perhaps if you concentrated on the ones you had and not keep getting suspended you would be in a happier position.

JamesNorth101 02-22-2014 11:51 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 530936)
What does UTR stand for?

Unique Taxpayer Reference. Issued by HMRC

JamesNorth101 02-22-2014 11:53 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Roberto does raise a good point though.

You say you are opening 5 accounts a day. Is that every day? That is a lot of accounts. Quantity is not always better than quality.

roberto 02-22-2014 11:56 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 530949)
Roberto does raise a good point though.

You say you are opening 5 accounts a day. Is that every day? That is a lot of accounts. Quantity is not always better than quality.

Did oyu try make a new account after 21/02/2014?

I have not got this issue but wondering if anyone else did. Because gollin is mentioning he has got issue. but he only made 1 post, and am not sure if gollin and a.v limtied is same person

MICKY H 02-22-2014 11:59 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 530945)
Unique Taxpayer Reference. Issued by HMRC

Never heard of this 'UTR', Limited companies have a registration number, vat number for sole and Ltd companies and a EORI number for importing.

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 12:00 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
if sole trader you need to register online, self assessment, and they post a code to you

10 digit

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 530957)
Never heard of this 'UTR', Limited companies have a registration number, vat number for sole and Ltd companies and a EORI number for importing.


JamesNorth101 02-22-2014 12:03 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530950)
not quite as straightforward as that im afraid

I think you may want to work out why you need so many Amazon accounts. Yes stealth is about having back up account, but creating 5 Amazon accounts a day IMO seems OTT

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 530957)
Never heard of this 'UTR', Limited companies have a registration number, vat number for sole and Ltd companies and a EORI number for importing.

Sole traders get them for completing their self assessment forms.

As a general rule you only get 1

MICKY H 02-22-2014 12:04 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 530960)
Sole traders get them for completing their self assessment forms.

As a general rule you only get 1

Thanks James, however is this public information, or just HRMC?

roberto 02-22-2014 12:08 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 530960)
I think you may want to work out why you need so many Amazon accounts. Yes stealth is about having back up account, but creating 5 Amazon accounts a day IMO seems OTT


Sole traders get them for completing their self assessment forms.

As a general rule you only get 1

Did you make any uk accounts after 21/02/2014?

I want to know if anyone else has come across this or a.v limited only. because i did not come across this

JamesNorth101 02-22-2014 12:08 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 530962)
Thanks James, however is this public information, or just HRMC?

Best to ask HMRC themselves if anyone else has access to the UTR as I am not an authority on taxes Im afraid.

MICKY H 02-22-2014 12:15 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
AV LIMITED, why don't you start a new post on how to open 5 bank accounts a day. This would be very useful.

roberto 02-22-2014 12:23 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 530969)
Just thought if its not Public Information, and I don't believe it is searching Google, then amazon cannot confirm if the details are true or false. So on stealth any number would work,

That is assuming amazon does require UTR like he is saying.

did you try making account after 21/02/2014, did they ask for UTR or passport?

JamesNorth101 02-22-2014 12:25 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
No I have not created an Amazon recently.

My main selling platform is eBay.

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 12:25 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
is what aspect public knowledge ?

it is on HRMC website

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 530962)
Thanks James, however is this public information, or just HRMC?


JamesNorth101 02-22-2014 12:27 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530976)
is what aspect public knowledge

MICKY H is referring to the UTR number itself and whether it is searchable as info such as company directors or Ltd Compies numbers would be in the UK

Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530977)
why would I need to do that when I already know how to ??

If you are really opening 5 new bank accounts a day in the UK you are going to run into problems pretty fast.

MICKY H 02-22-2014 01:13 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530977)
why would I need to do that when I already know how to ??

For the benefit of other members, give something back to the forum.

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 01:32 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
the thread is about amazons new policies and how this can be overcome.

If you want other info start a thread on that, I previously opened one on bank accounts 5 months back

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 530986)
For the benefit of other members, give something back to the forum.


roberto 02-22-2014 07:06 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Update: I made another account today on amazon.

Used uk address.

Still they did not ask for passport at start or UTR numbers.

So now I can 100% confirm this issue is one that only a.v. limtied has faced, 99.9% of people probably wont face this. So no need to worry.

I also doubt a.v. limited intentially wanted to do some fear mognering. So we should all act in good faith. This thread can be closed now before it scares more people.

proof: http://oi62.tinypic.com/54fytg.jpg
as you see, at top of my page it doesnt ask for validation like it does on a.v. limited's image

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 07:09 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
interesting, the UTR number was for a business account, can you try and change this to a business account and see what happens, thanks

roberto 02-22-2014 07:16 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 531093)
interesting, the UTR number was for a business account, can you try and change this to a business account and see what happens, thanks

i wasted 2 gift cards because of you. next time i will take whatever you say as only happening to you.

and if you claim its for everyone, i will take that with a big grain of salt.

am not doing anymore tests to confirm anything you say. sorry.

:(

Ebayorbust 02-23-2014 03:11 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530947)
you don't know why I create accounts so that is not really the issue this post is trying to resolve.

My guess would be is that you have some idiotic plan to try and sell these accounts, either here or elsewhere. This would also explain the recent posting activity.

If this is your plan, take some advice and STOP posting. Account sellers need to have some credibility and actually know what they are talking about. The little credibility you had was flushed down the toilet about 100 posts ago.

a.v.limited 02-23-2014 06:29 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
you still didn't try a business account as requested


Quote:

Originally Posted by roberto (Post 531096)
i wasted 2 gift cards because of you. next time i will take whatever you say as only happening to you.

and if you claim its for everyone, i will take that with a big grain of salt.

am not doing anymore tests to confirm anything you say. sorry.

:(


mctrader07 02-23-2014 05:19 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akthekid (Post 530394)
I'm new to this forum and I appreciate all the advice here. If you have a question about virtually anything dealing with online business, the users in this forum have the answer. Making snide remarks towards any user in this forum is not only arrogant and pointless, it's disrespectful.

I agree these forums are made to have helpful information and to help each other people who just throw in nasty comments should be targeted and banned.

mctrader07 02-23-2014 05:21 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 530399)
UK and USA differ in certain way on both Amazon and eBay

Be careful to not get the methods crossed.

Im sure that how they differ is usa requires your SSN number to find you. Uk does not

a.v.limited 02-24-2014 08:37 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
UPDATE : I don't understand why but todays account creation on uk amazon occurred without any issues

Maybe this was a temporary glitch

barrycruan 02-24-2014 08:46 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
I doubt it's a glitch. That makes no sense.

It's either amazon are on to you and these new accounts or it could be amazon are testing this out on small numbers of people before a decision on rolling it out is made. I hope it's the first one but people should not be scared to post things that could be of use.

I'm not sure what av has done in the past but there has been some borderline bullying going on. This could have been a major issue. it looks like it wasn't but peoples reaction to this post is more likely to stop others posting in the future. Like I said, I'm not sure what av has done but there have been some pretty shameful replies in my opinion.

MICKY H 02-24-2014 10:34 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Basically a 4 day thread on something that has only happened to and now its fixed. You sound like you enjoy soap opera's......

Artann 02-25-2014 10:48 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
The bottom line is that this is not a reoccurring issue and now everything works great.
Lets thank a.v.limited and people for the info and confirming that everything is back to normal.
Mods please close this trade that people like me won't have to go through 5 pages of read :)

MICKY H 02-25-2014 11:29 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artann (Post 532017)
The bottom line is that this is not a reoccurring issue and now everything works great.
Lets thank a.v.limited and people for the info and confirming that everything is back to normal.
Mods please close this trade that people like me won't have to go through 5 pages of read :)

Of course lets thank him that this is not a recurring issue for him, and an issue for nobody else.

JRaynor101 02-25-2014 11:11 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 530957)
Never heard of this 'UTR', Limited companies have a registration number, vat number for sole and Ltd companies and a EORI number for importing.

It's a reference number everyone has as a taxpayer - not businesses (though I guess they have an equivalent).

Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530958)
if sole trader you need to register online, self assessment, and they post a code to you

I hate HMRC, and pretty much all tax offices. When I started selling here in Japan, I was told as I didn't sell domestically and my money went out of country, I couldn't declare it in Japan - they'd only tax when I brought into the country (either via paypay-UK to paypal-JP transfer or International remittance). So I called the UK, who told me that I couldn't register as a sole trader as I didn't have a active address in the UK I can use despite my income arising in a UK paypal account. I was advised, by the HMRC help line, to just declare it as 'other'. I've been doing self assessment for about 4 years now declaring it, even though it's well below a taxable threshold and I have no other UK income.

a.v.limited 02-26-2014 09:00 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
here is a screen print of the page when trying to create an account -
http://i58.tinypic.com/nlwokj.jpg


Hope doesnt happen to you

MICKY H 02-26-2014 10:03 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Whats new, it has always asked for Limited Company number for a Limited Company. Where is it requesting your passport?????? UTR?????

a.v.limited 02-26-2014 10:16 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
if you change business type to private seller / individual then to verify yourself they want driving licence or passport

if you change to sole trader the request for UTR appears

if you hover over the ? on the webpage

a.v.limited 02-26-2014 10:23 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
for sole trader -
http://i61.tinypic.com/t8snz8.jpg

asking for UTR.

MICKY H 02-26-2014 10:25 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
OK very good......Thank you. I will just wait for several other people to report the same.

GreenBean 02-26-2014 04:15 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Please do not post links with your personal info on them.

Not wise stealth that.

:nono:

a.v.limited 02-26-2014 04:18 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
none of my details and didn't open that account, was showing the thread what happens

Freakzilla 02-27-2014 05:43 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
I tried to open an account today and had exactly the same problem as above.


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