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a.v.limited 02-20-2014 07:50 AM

Amazons new request for ID to creat accounts, UTR/Passport
 
It seems to be very difficult to go stealth on amazon now because they are asking for a UTR number which is a unique taxpayer ref. Anyone come across this ?? Seems to have happened over the last few days.

Anyway around it ?

and if you set up a person account they want to verify who you are. This is all new.

They are asking for Passport or driving licence

yankee 02-20-2014 09:32 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530211)
Some advice would have been nicer

Really?

:confused: :argue:

yankee 02-20-2014 12:46 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530251)
What is your problem ??? simple questions followed by a pointless comment.

You come across as a jerk. Pointless posts I guess are a matter of opinion, but I have read a lot of your posts and honestly, MOST come across the same way and oftentimes exceedingly irrelevant to the thread bordering inaccurate. To me, a sour attitude and edgy posts are pointless. To each there own I guess.

roberto 02-20-2014 01:12 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
is this true?

a.v.limited 02-20-2014 06:33 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
yes its true hence the post

akthekid 02-20-2014 06:45 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
I'm new to this forum and I appreciate all the advice here. If you have a question about virtually anything dealing with online business, the users in this forum have the answer. Making snide remarks towards any user in this forum is not only arrogant and pointless, it's disrespectful.

akthekid 02-20-2014 06:49 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
And as far as AZ requesting passport or DL information, I have not experienced this. I just started a new account and provided an EIN and wasn't asked for anything more than that as far as the tax part of the process is concerned.

GreenBean 02-20-2014 06:50 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530211)
Some advice would have been nicer

Dont start again today.

:nono:

JamesNorth101 02-20-2014 06:51 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akthekid (Post 530396)
And as far as AZ requesting passport or DL information, I have not experienced this. I just started a new account and provided an EIN and wasn't asked for anything more than that as far as the tax part of the process is concerned.

UK and USA differ in certain way on both Amazon and eBay

Be careful to not get the methods crossed.

GreenBean 02-20-2014 06:51 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akthekid (Post 530396)
And as far as AZ requesting passport or DL information, I have not experienced this. I just started a new account and provided an EIN and wasn't asked for anything more than that as far as the tax part of the process is concerned.

The OP is talking about a change of requirements for amazon uk.

Appears to be something sprung on the UK sellers.

My main worry is the UTR.

Am checking at the moment to see what will benefit sellers ( or not).

:spy:

roberto 02-20-2014 06:55 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530190)
It seems to be very difficult to go stealth on amazon now because they are asking for a UTR number which is a unique taxpayer ref. Anyone come across this ?? Seems to have happened over the last few days.

Anyway around it ?

and if you set up a person account they want to verify who you are. This is all new.

They are asking for Passport or driving licence

can you post the email amazon sent you here please

akthekid 02-20-2014 07:12 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Sorry about that! Will be sure to check the region in question next time before I post.

akthekid 02-20-2014 07:24 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
@Greenie, when you verify, can you tell us if this is something that will affect all AZ sellers eventually?

a.v.limited 02-20-2014 07:37 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
basically for a personal account they want to check you live at an address by doing similar to a credit check. For business they want a company number or self assessment number. Stealth seems to be difficult now.

Not an email its on there page when you try and open an account.

Any updates will keep you posted

roberto 02-20-2014 07:39 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530436)
basically for a personal account they want to check you live at an address by doing similar to a credit check. For business they want a company number or self assessment number. Stealth seems to be difficult now.

Not an email its on there page when you try and open an account.

Any updates will keep you posted

did they ask for passport info by emaiL?

if not why do you mention that they want passport?

and do you have link where they ask this

a.v.limited 02-20-2014 08:06 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
as mentioned it is when you go and open a new seller account, apparently it will need to be faxed in but as I haven't done it yet and only put in stealth details they may come back and just reject the account before one is requested.

Worse thing is this is just for a personal account, in reality we need a business account hence a UTR

jeffweico 02-20-2014 09:27 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akthekid (Post 530428)
@Greenie, when you verify, can you tell us if this is something that will affect all AZ sellers eventually?

The US and UK are different. We have the SSN/EIN issue to deal with here in the US. The UK had nothing similar to deal with. Apparently, that is changing. It is the nature of the beast. Stealth now is very different from what it was five years ago.

Each county has it's own challenges. In the UK, obtaining a bank account is more difficult than it is here in the US. In Australia, they have an anti-money laundering law to deal with that requires identity verification at the $1,000 level. Here in the US, Amazon will require a tax-id number (SSN or EIN) when you have more than 50 sales, even though the law says they must verify this when you have more than 200 sales and over $20,000 in revenue.

I can guarantee you that new procedures will be put into place from time to time. We will either find workarounds or give up. The best place to find out about such changes is right here.

a.v.limited 02-21-2014 05:22 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Also as another point amazon also require you to add a bank account once you open the account. Previously this needed to be done only 3 days before the first withdrawal of funds was possible.

roberto 02-21-2014 02:11 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Update: a.v limited is either talking rubbish. Or they only asked him for passport because they saw something dodgy

I made account on amazon.co.uk today and they NEVER asked for passport or UTR (private acc made) using gift card

Jojoharris 02-21-2014 09:18 PM

I have opened several accounts and been running without any information like that being requested. I have also NEVER been asked for this kind of info. Why are talking about credit checks....credit checks are for exactly that...credit.

If it's happened to you then fair enough and maybe it can be figured out but that doesn't mean everyone opening a uk account is going to be asked for ID and address verification. Like I say have opened accounts no problem.

MICKY H 02-21-2014 09:46 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530449)
as mentioned it is when you go and open a new seller account, apparently it will need to be faxed in but as I haven't done it yet and only put in stealth details they may come back and just reject the account before one is requested.

Worse thing is this is just for a personal account, in reality we need a business account hence a UTR

So you have no experience of this, is this just spreading rumours. Why say something that you say 'apparently'. Where is the evidence.

akthekid 02-21-2014 09:52 PM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffweico (Post 530464)
The US and UK are different. We have the SSN/EIN issue to deal with here in the US. The UK had nothing similar to deal with. Apparently, that is changing. It is the nature of the beast. Stealth now is very different from what it was five years ago.

Each county has it's own challenges. In the UK, obtaining a bank account is more difficult than it is here in the US. In Australia, they have an anti-money laundering law to deal with that requires identity verification at the $1,000 level. Here in the US, Amazon will require a tax-id number (SSN or EIN) when you have more than 50 sales, even though the law says they must verify this when you have more than 200 sales and over $20,000 in revenue.

I can guarantee you that new procedures will be put into place from time to time. We will either find workarounds or give up. The best place to find out about such changes is right here.

Thanks for the info!

Gollin 02-22-2014 04:22 AM

Amazon new settings uk
 
Any one come across amazon uk new settings asking for id or a tax number anyone know away around this setting yet? id be grateful for any advice

JamesNorth101 02-22-2014 05:52 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 530740)
So you have no experience of this, is this just spreading rumours. Why say something that you say 'apparently'. Where is the evidence.

Just fear mongering. Seems to be little evidence that it has happened to anyone else.

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 06:33 AM

opened with gift card, like I normally do. I open 5 a day normally. No difference to what is normally done. Creating rumours ???? What are you on ??

How can I add a screen dump ?

what account did you open ? buyer or seller. If seller, individual or a business ? which business ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by roberto (Post 530642)
Update: a.v limited is either talking rubbish. Or they only asked him for passport because they saw something dodgy

I made account on amazon.co.uk today and they NEVER asked for passport or UTR (private acc made) using gift card

One person has said otherwise. Have you tried it ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 530845)
Just fear mongering. Seems to be little evidence that it has happened to anyone else.


a.v.limited 02-22-2014 10:31 AM

Re: Amazon new settings uk
 
gollin,
what kind of account were you trying to open ?

seems to be a new requirement for amazon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gollin (Post 530827)
Any one come across amazon uk new settings asking for id or a tax number anyone know away around this setting yet? id be grateful for any advice


GreenBean 02-22-2014 10:37 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Where's that screen dump too, please?

:spy:

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 10:51 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Not sure how to add it on the forum

roberto 02-22-2014 10:52 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530910)
Not sure how to add it on the forum

upload to website like tinypic and add link here

JamesNorth101 02-22-2014 10:56 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Roberto just gave you a website you can use.

Tinypic

Upload it there and link here

roberto 02-22-2014 11:01 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 530913)
Roberto just gave you a website you can use.

Tinypic

Upload it there and link here

no he is sayign someone else reported it so he doesnt need to post it.

Maybe gollin is same person. only 1 post

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 11:10 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
http://i58.tinypic.com/70dgcp.jpg

this is first pic, after you have set up an account as a person

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 11:14 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
I'm afraid I cant show you business listing as only comes up when you create a new account, can only show you status of current account, when I create a new business account I will show you but at the moment it is clear in the UK they do ask for a registered business number

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 11:15 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
As account is not live I cannot upgrade to business to be able to show you how the account details are shown.

roberto 02-22-2014 11:16 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a.v.limited (Post 530920)
http://i58.tinypic.com/70dgcp.jpg

this is first pic, after you have set up an account as a person

Amazon payments is where your problem is at

Amazon payments is a payment processor for personal wesbties, so i expect that to require additional security.

Dont subsribe for amazon payments

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 11:24 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
If only It was that. Not subscribed to it. I have been changing the settings but no joy at all. They have changed the layout of account opening in UK as well

roberto 02-22-2014 11:29 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
Well i have made account and did not come across this problem. You say they asked you this straight away as soon as you made account?

Did anyone else make new ebay uk account after 21/02/2014 with uk address?

Also in your pic it mentions amazon payments several times

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 11:37 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
I have opened 2 accounts and same thing. This is only screen shot I can show as other show no relevance now account has been attempted to be opened.

That gollin has tried it and same thing. Anyone else ?

roberto 02-22-2014 11:39 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
What you mention was mentioned by someone 6 months ago as well:

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/amazon/...onal-info.html

"European law requires us, as a payments provider, to take steps so that we can confirm the identity of our customers. Please note that we may need to request additional information to fulfil these requirements and allow you to use our services. To open the Selling on Amazon payment account and to be able to transact on Amazon, you must provide: "


So it seems only few people are getting these issues

a.v.limited 02-22-2014 11:43 AM

Re: Amazons new request for UTR number
 
sounds similar but with no answers to his post.

Bigger issue is to sell we need a business account, sole trader, but then it asks for a UTR. That is real issue


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