vaccine?

[slokor]

Originally Posted by Hank

You're allowed to post nonsensical garbage, why aren't they?

I dont post anything that endangers lives and is an outright lie.

[slokor]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

there is garbage on both sides , the vaccines are neither kill shots nor are they a rescue. this virus will stay indefinitely , there will not be herd immunity and 99% of people do not need any vaccines as their only risk is getting standard flu symptoms

the remaining 1% deserves compassion and help but it is not a reason to force the other 99% to take multiple shots every 6 months with unknown consequences

Agree to disagree.
The vaccine is not perfect by any means.
What it does is manage the infection rates and most importantly the hospitalization rates - so that poor 1% youre referring to actually has hospital beds to get once they need them and theyre not occupied by people from other 99%. Weve seen the hospitals collapse already.
It realy boggles my mind how much selfishness Im reading in these posts. Such lack of compassion and empathy. So much self centered egotistical bull$hit. Shame on all of you.

[Hank]

Originally Posted by slokor

I dont post anything that endangers lives and is an outright lie.

Not that it matters as a point of principle....but you do, you're just so full of yourself you can't see it.

[ebaystealth1974]

Hopefully this new pill will help the people that didn't want the vaccine, and contract covid. Seems promising, so far.

[DarkKnight17]

Anyone who wants the vax has already had it.
I don't think these new magic red beans will change that

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by DarkKnight17

Anyone who wants the vax has already had it.
I don't think these new magic red beans will change that

They're for AFTER you get it, genius. Most covid deniers beg for help after they contract it and end up in the hospital. Unfortunately. This should provide them some saving grace.

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974

They're for AFTER you get it, genius. Most covid deniers beg for help after they contract it and end up in the hospital. Unfortunately. This should provide them some saving grace.

"covid denier" is a term spread by state propaganda. it is not about covid denial but about denial of the suggested methods to deal with covid

by now the entire population has been exposed to covid , the number of deaths and heavy cases is tiny comparing to the number of people who were exposed

there is a reason why there have been no vaccines against the annual flu outbreaks , this is because vaccines do not work with the flu. and that is also the reason why they are suggesting to do 3 shots every 6 months

we see the tendency , it started with one double-shot for immunity. later on it was supposed to be repeated. now they are saying that a third shot is needed so that people who are not vaccinated are supposed to be pressured first and later on those people who were vaccinated only with 2 shots as they are still "dangerous". in the meantime they are also preparing the people for new 3 shots every 6 months suggesting that the vaccines only work short term. so be prepared to take vaccines indefinitely

soon the people in the west will see that their freedoms given to them in the 20th century in order to fight the soviet union will be taken away from them

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by slokor

Agree to disagree.
The vaccine is not perfect by any means.
What it does is manage the infection rates and most importantly the hospitalization rates - so that poor 1% youre referring to actually has hospital beds to get once they need them and theyre not occupied by people from other 99%. Weve seen the hospitals collapse already.
It realy boggles my mind how much selfishness Im reading in these posts. Such lack of compassion and empathy. So much self centered egotistical bull$hit. Shame on all of you.

it would certainly be cheaper to build additional infrastructure and expand the numbers of beds. the money is certainly not the issue here

the issue is that it is not about the beds but about changing the system. the restrictions being imposed now will never be taken back

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

"covid denier" is a term spread by state propaganda. it is not about covid denial

Before I read the rest of your post, I'll just go ahead and say this is 100% wrong. In the US, we absolutely have a subset of people that don't believe it exists. Unfortunately, my significant other's cousin just died from it last week... while not believing in it.

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

there is a reason why there have been no vaccines against the annual flu outbreaks , this is because vaccines do not work with the flu. and that is also the reason why they are suggesting to do 3 shots every 6 months

Again, maybe it's because you dont live in the US... or maybe I'm missing your meaning, but we 100% have a flu vaccine here. It's about 50% effective, since they can't exactly predict which viruses will be circulating ahead of time.

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974

Before I read the rest of your post, I'll just go ahead and say this is 100% wrong. In the US, we absolutely have a subset of people that don't believe it exists. Unfortunately, my significant other's cousin just died from it last week... while not believing in it.

this does not change anything about the fact that the amount of casualties is tiny comparing to the overall people who were exposed which is nearly the entire population by now

furthermore there is a severe suspicion that lots of deaths WITH covid are written off as deaths FROM covid. keep in mind that many people die every day without any pandemic and since the entire population is exposed a large portion of the dead will have traces of covid , with many having an active covid infection

[slokor]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

furthermore there is a severe suspicion that lots of deaths WITH covid are written off as deaths FROM covid. keep in mind that many people die every day without any pandemic and since the entire population is exposed a large portion of the dead will have traces of covid , with many having an active covid infection

Im sorry but that is the biggest load of $hit I have ever heard.

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by slokor

Im sorry but that is the biggest load of $hit I have ever heard.

if you want to know the cause of death you need to perform an autopsy

there is no way to tell the cause by any other means apart from obvious cases like shot in the head , even with people who were beaten up or had an accident it is not always obvious why they died. that is why there are so many court cases where details need to be requested from specialists as it is impossible to tell the actual cause of death just by looking at outside factors

so far I have not heard anything about mass autopsies

[rsot]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

so far I have not heard anything about mass autopsies

Case by case basis

[Hank]

Originally Posted by slokor

Im sorry but that is the biggest load of $hit I have ever heard.

Which proves how shallow minded you are. There are well documented cases where folk have died and covid has been declared as the cause of death when that categorically and indisputably isn't true - they died with covid.

You would have be be a complete plank if you weren't aware of the definition of what a covid death was but called everyone elses observations 'bull$hit'. You appear to be one of the aforementioned few.

[Hank]

Originally Posted by rsot

Case by case basis

Are you for real, do you really believe there is a 'case by case' system in place in any civilised western nation?

You appear to be another who incredibly doesn't know the criteria that most countries are applying to declare covid as the cause of death.

Are you and slokor cousins?

[slokor]

Whatever Hank.
Youre obviously a pandemic and Vax denier who is full of $hit so I put absolutely no stock in anything you have to say. Just another moron who keeps shovelling the crap, lies and misinformation around trying to make his nonsensical point. Good luck with all that douche.

[Hank]

Originally Posted by slokor

Whatever Hank.
Youre obviously a pandemic and Vax denier who is full of $hit so I put absolutely no stock in anything you have to say. Just another moron who keeps shovelling the crap, lies and misinformation around trying to make his nonsensical point. Good luck with all that douche.

Why do you always resort to insults when someone challenges your limp-wristed take on matters?

The moderators have already warned you for this, why continue?

My guess would be you can see you're losing the argument and rather than re-think and discuss you thrown an insult tantrum. I feel sorry for you, get out of your bedsit and experience the real world. It's not that scary I promise you.

[DarkKnight17]

Why does every pro experimental vax nut believe they have superior intelligence to the rest of the world simply because they believe the propaganda machine ?

If you were right about all this after 2 years the rest of us would be all dead by now.

I think subconsciously your all pissed off you fell for it and now want the rest of us to have it out of spite.

And I am not antivax. I do however refuse to take some rushed for profit injection that clearly has deadly an life changing side effects when the alternative is getting sick for a few days an being back to normal.

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by slokor

Im sorry but that is the biggest load of $hit I have ever heard.

There are a huge number of cases in which someone has passed away and COVID was on the death certificate even though its quite likely that isn't what they actually died from

It does skew the stats a lot

[Hank]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

There are a huge number of cases in which someone has passed away and COVID was on the death certificate even though its quite likely that isn't what they actually died from

It does skew the stats a lot

Indeed there are. There is a well publicised case in the UK where a guy fell from a roof and smashed his skull in and they detected covid on him so that was on his death certificate. That is currently being legally challenged by the family as they refuse to amend it - sounds tooo ridiculous to be true.

Similar case in the US. Guy rides his motorbike into a tree and explodes into a thousand pieces. Death certificate due to a recent test.....covid.

Fortunately for each of these ridiculously manipulated figures there is some good news. Nobody in the UK died of flu in January or February of this year....not one single recorded death.

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by slokor

Whatever Hank.
Youre obviously a pandemic and Vax denier who is full of $hit so I put absolutely no stock in anything you have to say. Just another moron who keeps shovelling the crap, lies and misinformation around trying to make his nonsensical point. Good luck with all that douche.

I think your mixing up people don't want the vax with people who deny covid exists. They are not one one and the same