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Angry eBay and third party checkout rumors

You know how eBay originally announced in early 2008 at their convention they were doing away with 3rd party checkout and their inside reps confirmed it, too. Then April 15, eBay goes and denies it. Well eBay always lies so I researched it.

Here are rumors of the bad stuff eBay will be doing with its checkout system...

eBay requires all payments to be paperless already. Some time in the future, all merchant accounts and online payment systems will be integrated into eBay checkout and eBay will know all your personal info of you merchant account just like they know your info with paypal and just like they know your info with moneybookers and those other ones (which by eBay policy require your social security number and they secretly pass that info on to eBay).

When that's done, buyers will be able to file the buyer disputes in eBay and with a click of a button, they'll be able to get their payment reversed through eBay, even if you have a merchant account, eBay will just force a refund through your merchant account to the buyer. Oh and eBay won't get your chargeback info so if the buyer already did a chargeback, they can get a double refund. eBay will allow third party checkout, but merchant accounts will still be integrated through it just like how auctiva checkout handles things when you set it "paypal only".

Well those are the rumors I've heard people saying...
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I wonder what would happen if somebody were to pursue ebay on the grounds that ca$h (by law) is legal tender for all debts public and private. If they could be spanked for disallowing ca$h as an option for so long, how hard would the spanking be? Doesn't congress and the treasury, possibly even the FTC, have authority on something like this? eBay checkout isn't really legal tender, is it?
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vicvelcro, it might be a good idea to go on a trolling campaign to try to convince all the buyers that worship paypal as their religion and claim they only pay by it to stop paying for goods in real life except by paypal and to not pay anything to their government except by paypal and ride on ebay's brainwashing to see how many people do it. People need to go through the school of hard knocks when they say "I only pay by paypal".
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You caught my drift pretty quick. That's exactly what I was alluding to. I wonder how many people would be happy if their tax refunds were credited to their Paypal accounts... And how quickly the Gov't would straighten things up when the Gov't Paypal account got limited for high volume of transactions and high transaction value...

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Or... How many people would be happy if their job they work for all day stopped paying them normally and told them that they'll now only pay them through PayPal?
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Man, can you envision the rioting if GM went that route, and all the workers had to deal with the 21 day hold?!?
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I wonder what would happen if somebody were to pursue ebay on the grounds that ca$h (by law) is legal tender for all debts public and private. If they could be spanked for disallowing ca$h as an option for so long, how hard would the spanking be? Doesn't congress and the treasury, possibly even the FTC, have authority on something like this? eBay checkout isn't really legal tender, is it?
Thats great. :D
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well egay seems to be making things harde for the sellerfor example
if you put the word Money Order in the description of your item, then click to go to the next page, you will get a warning of sorts about the money order and it won't let you go any farther. Of course you still put MO and get away with it until your caught
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Go ahead and copy that image. Use it in your listings. I made it for general use and grant usage rights to anyone for any reason from now until forever for free. Enjoy.
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But Vic, what if you are Ebay spy? So easy for them to spot members of Aspkin forum on auctions! Noooo waaaay hoseeee! Not me....

Otherwise, the idea is great, but should have kept it private.....eh!
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If I'm an ebay spy, shoot me and put me out of my misery.

Ok, so now that you point out ebay maybe linking people with the image, I suggest everyone make their own custom image that achieves the same goal. Same principle, different image 'signature'.
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Did you try it yourself, and for long were your auctions up?
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I've used it. None of the auctions were pulled. All ran the full 7 days. Some buyers sent money orders. Buyers who wouldn't have, otherwise (so they said).

Some people still like it that way. And I don't mind doing it.
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Default ***Third Party Checkout: Clarification***

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You know how eBay originally announced in early 2008 at their convention they were doing away with 3rd party checkout and their inside reps confirmed it, too. Then April 15, eBay goes and denies it. Well eBay always lies so I researched it.

Here are rumors of the bad stuff eBay will be doing with its checkout system...

eBay requires all payments to be paperless already. Some time in the future, all merchant accounts and online payment systems will be integrated into eBay checkout and eBay will know all your personal info of you merchant account just like they know your info with paypal and just like they know your info with moneybookers and those other ones (which by eBay policy require your social security number and they secretly pass that info on to eBay).

When that's done, buyers will be able to file the buyer disputes in eBay and with a click of a button, they'll be able to get their payment reversed through eBay, even if you have a merchant account, eBay will just force a refund through your merchant account to the buyer. Oh and eBay won't get your chargeback info so if the buyer already did a chargeback, they can get a double refund. eBay will allow third party checkout, but merchant accounts will still be integrated through it just like how auctiva checkout handles things when you set it "paypal only".

Well those are the rumors I've heard people saying...
Link Third Party Checkout: Clarification

"Some blogs have incorrectly reported that eBay is doing away with third party checkout. We want to clarify that this is not the case.

The facts: Beginning June 15, eBay will only allow third-party checkout services from approved providers who have updated their user interface according to a set of eBay guidelines. Our goal is to give buyers a more consistent checkout experience. These guidelines do not involve any changes to functionality that is consistent with eBay listing policies and existing legal agreements.

Some of the current third-party checkout providers may decide to begin using eBay Checkout instead of making user interface changes to their own checkout system. In this case, sellers can continue to use their services.

If you are a seller using a third-party checkout provider, we strongly encourage you to contact your provider about their plans. Most of our approved partners are planning to make the necessary changes to their solution, including:

* 4Sellers
* Afterbuy
* Auctiva Corporation
* ChannelAdvisor
* Cultuzz Digital Media
* Digital River
* Kyozou
* Sandbourne Systems
* Vendio

To reiterate, we are not eliminating third party checkout on June 15, we are only asking third-party checkout providers to update the user interface.

Please keep in mind that the definitive source of information about eBay is eBay. You can find accurate information about any planned changes through this Announcement Board and through emails, calls and other official communications from eBay.

Sincerely,
Dinesh Lathi
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ccnow is owned by digital river....what does this mean?...hmmmnnn
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It believe it means what you think it means, Ebaykilla! Isn't that great?
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do you think that a ccnow seller can use the digital river checkout for receiving payments acording with ebay policies?
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digital river owns ccnow...we will see soon....stay tuned.
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Sounds too good to be true. We'll probably find out soon enough that there is the catch somewhere.......
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I want to put WE ONLY ACCEPT GOOGLE CHECKOUT LOGOS ON MY AUCTIONS SO BAD BUT IM SCARED . . . LOL
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If eBay doesn't have your merchant account info but your authorize.net keys, they could in theory still use your authorize.net account to force a refund through. And I'm sure most buyers will know this and do a chargeback first (which eBay won't be able to verify) and then they'll make eBay force a second refund.
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