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Default After 15 years, eBay plans to cut off PayPal as its main payments processor

eBay intends to further improve its customer experience by intermediating payments on its Marketplace platform. In doing so, eBay will manage the payments flow, simplifying the end-to-end experience for buyers and sellers. eBay has signed an agreement with Adyen, a leading global payments processor, to become its primary payments processing partner. PayPal, a long-time eBay partner, will be a payments option at checkout for eBay buyers. The transition to full payments intermediation will be a multi-year journey, and eBay will move as quickly as possible to complete this process within the parameters of the Operating Agreement with PayPal, which remains in place through mid-2020.

As a leading global commerce company, eBay believes that payments intermediation is strategically important to improve the buyer and seller experience on its platform and will enable the company to further innovate on behalf of its customers. In a rapidly changing and competitive ecommerce landscape, shoppers expect to be able to both shop and checkout on the site on which they transact. As eBay intermediates payments, shoppers will be able to complete their purchases within eBay. As a global marketplace that operates in over 190 markets, eBay also must continue to provide localized payment options for buyers and sellers that are tailored to their unique needs.

Over the past three years, eBay has transformed its business to drive the best choice, most relevance and most powerful selling platform. Building out eBay’s payments capabilities is the next step in the company’s strategy, with the goal of driving significant benefits and efficiencies for its buyers and sellers globally.

Specific Customer Benefits

For sellers:

Lower Costs and More Control of Their Economics. Most sellers can expect their costs of payments processing to be reduced after they transition to eBay’s intermediated payments model, and benefit from a simplified pricing structure and more predictable access to their funds.
A Central Place to Manage Their Business. eBay is working on solutions to provide sellers with information about their eBay business, inclusive of payments information, in one place so that sellers can easily track and manage all of their transactions and customer interactions on eBay.
Greater Buyer Reach and Improved Conversion. By offering buyers more choice in how they pay and expanding payment options into more geographies, eBay believes sellers will be able to reach more buyers and improve conversion.
For buyers:

More Payment Options at Checkout. eBay is focused on providing consumers greater choice in payment options at checkout.
An Integrated Checkout Experience. eBay will manage the entire checkout experience, delivering a more streamlined experience for consumers.
Strategic Partners

eBay has signed an agreement with Adyen to be its primary partner for payments processing globally, including in North America. Adyen powers payment processing for a number of the world’s leading global marketplaces and brings to this partnership a broad global footprint with a flexible and scalable technology platform. Adyen’s wide geographic reach and experience at scale extends to more than 150 currencies and over 200 methods of payments.

Additionally, eBay and PayPal have aligned on terms to offer PayPal as a way to pay at checkout on the eBay intermediated model until July 2023. PayPal will remain an important partner to eBay.

Long-Term Investments

eBay has begun making significant investments across its business to build the capabilities required to intermediate payments. The company’s payments team is led by Alyssa Cutright, Vice President of Payments, and Jingming Li, Vice President of Payments Platform, to oversee the business and product development, as well as Yvette Bohanan, Vice President of Risk Management, leading the payments risk management team.

Together, these leaders bring significant payments expertise from Alipay, Google, HSBC, Square and Wells Fargo. Over time, eBay expects to have a team of several hundred business, product, and risk specialists driving its payment capabilities.

Timing

eBay will begin payments intermediation on the Marketplace platform on a small scale in North America starting in the second half of 2018, expanding in 2019 under the terms of the Operating Agreement with PayPal. In 2021, eBay expects to have transitioned a majority of its Marketplace customers to its new payments experience.

The way that sellers engage with eBay in an intermediated landscape will, for the most part, be very similar as they do today. For example, sellers will not need to change their accounts with eBay. Sellers will continue to log into eBay and manage their listings as they do today. As eBay begins to intermediate payments, sellers can expect to see new, streamlined dashboards and reports inclusive of payments – all within eBay.

Specifically:

As eBay transitions to a fully intermediated platform, it will work closely with its sellers to ensure that its new payment capabilities reflect their needs and deliver value to them.
To enable payments in their eBay accounts, sellers should expect to provide eBay with some additional payments-related data and transition to a new relationship with eBay that includes integrated payments capabilities.
Sellers will be required to complete these steps in order to continue selling on eBay, and it is anticipated that this transition for sellers will occur no later than one year after the expiration of eBay’s Operating Agreement with PayPal, i.e., by July 2021.
As eBay gets closer to the initial phase of its intermediation efforts, it will share more details about this process and next steps for its sellers. In the meantime, sellers can contact eBay now at paymentsinfo@ebay.com to stay up-to-date on eBay’s payments efforts and timing, share feedback and ask questions.
eBay’s payments initiative is expected to deliver value to customers through an improved shopping experience, enhanced selling tools and streamlined costs. The company is committed to working closely with its seller community to address the features and benefits that are most important to them and to ensure a smooth payments transition.
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Thoughts on this one boss? I would think a LLC with DBA's will work around this one.
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I’m sure this will effect us stealthers I’m worried 😟
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15 years later...ugh - bring back money orders in the mail! #oldschool
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Default Re: After 15 years, eBay plans to cut off PayPal as its main payments processor

Time to make Adyen stealth guide...
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Default Re: After 15 years, eBay plans to cut off PayPal as its main payments processor

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Thoughts on this one boss? I would think a LLC with DBA's will work around this one.
I've been saying for years that they will go to some payment system that will make stealthers long for the days when we could do stealth paypal, because payment system they will use will be like a bank account, and giving false info to it will be treated as lying on a bank account. Looks like that day is close at hand.
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Time to make Adyen stealth guide...
I don't think so. The way it's worded Adyen's service will be provided to eBay sellers by default. You won't need a Adyen account.

There does seem to be increased requirements for sellers however.. that could be the tricky part.
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Does this sound like eBay will be moving towards an Amazon like payment system
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Thoughts on this one boss? I would think a LLC with DBA's will work around this one.
It seems like it's going to be optional in the beginning while Paypal will still be accessible. So if Adyen is a pain, PayPal will still be an option.

We'll see how it goes..
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Does this sound like eBay will be moving towards an Amazon like payment system
Yes, that's what they want. They want to control the payments and charge fees and of course make more money $$$
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It's better that way. PP is just awful.
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trust me when I tell you being able to get around something is better than the unknowen. I never loved PayPal more than I do right now...
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If this is implemented like how etsy payments are this will be a breeze for stealth.
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I’m with the whole “change is never good” crowd

Looks like implementation will start this Summer. I imagine that buyers will transition to this new system a lot faster than we think. So even though PP will be an option for a few more years, it’ll become irrelevant relatively fast (irrelevant for eBay buyers/sellers, I mean)

Not a PayPal fan, but much less a fan of this new approach
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etsy uses adyne as a paymet processor.... problem solved... good chance @Gladiator and all other esty stealthers have us covered

https://www.adyen.com/customers

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What's the problem if your EB is stealth? They'll request more info? How does it relate to the removal of PP?
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I'm very optimistic towards this. As the only risk and threat to my business is a PayPal getting limited for selling too much, maybe I logged in too fast, or looked at the PayPal logo the wrong way and boom funds held for half a year and I need to move on from both accounts. Hopefully now that threat would be gone if eBay goes the Amazon route and processes payments internally. Now eBay could do whatever the he'll they want with us just like PayPal can, but ill take my chances that eBay can't be much worse than paypal
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I'm very optimistic towards this. As the only risk and threat to my business is a PayPal getting limited for selling too much, maybe I logged in too fast, or looked at the PayPal logo the wrong way and boom funds held for half a year and I need to move on from both accounts. Hopefully now that threat would be gone if eBay goes the Amazon route and processes payments internally. Now eBay could do whatever the he'll they want with us just like PayPal can, but ill take my chances that eBay can't be much worse than paypal
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Lmao looked at the PP logo the wrong way

So true though
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etsy uses adyne as a paymet processor.... problem solved... good chance @Gladiator and all other esty stealthers have us covered

https://www.adyen.com/customers


I am super excited. They use a nearly identical model across multiple platforms already so unless they do something crazy different it should be a lot easier to sell. Plus - the hold garbage should change for new accounts. Etsy is 5 days and after that every 3 days you get a deposit, after 90 days it's daily. That's much better than 21 out the gate over the same 3 months. Groupon is similar to this, which they also process for.

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Do they require SSN for all accounts?
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"To enable payments in their eBay accounts, sellers should expect to provide eBay with some additional payments-related data and transition to a new relationship with eBay that includes integrated payments capabilities."

Are we talking about them asking for account and routing number? Or SSN? Big difference.

I would love to hear more people chime in about their experience using Adyen as a payments processor, how it works, is it easier or more difficult than PayPal, etc.

I hope a guide or break down of how this will affect us stealthier makes its way onto these forums.
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