| |  | | | wilburnet | 03-22-2019 07:57 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealist
(Post 985622)
So one of my accounts fell below standard due to 3 cases out of like 1000 being decided in the customers favor (honestly the customers just called eBay before I could respond)
So Im working diligently of course and extra hard on this account to get it restored....
I go to pay fees, Lo And Behold, eBay is charging an ADDITIONAL 4% ON FINAL VALUE FEES! Due to Being Below Standard!
Each transaction in small bold letters (additional 4% fee due to below standard)
Thats criminal!
Thats a lot! THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL 4% ON TOP OF THE NORMAL SELLER FEES!!
I can sustain a successful business model but how can I keep selling like this?
Advice my fellow bros and sis?
Thanks | Ebay is becoming deader and deader, when very little buyers leave you seller feedback then that means the place has become a ghosttown.
I have started selling on Ebid ( ebid.net ), in the UK final value fee is 2%, my products show up in Google and i'm starting to see an average of one sale every 2-3 days.
I sell books magazines computer games. Give Ebid a try as its fun to use and less seller competition. Their Ebay Ninja lister is much easier to use since they done an upgrade |
| Sunspot144 | 03-22-2019 08:18 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Less feedback left on AMZ. Like 3% do.
Ebay mobile app just shows percent positive on initial interface. Have to dig deeper to see actual number of feedback. Wonder if that was intentional... |
| james13v | 03-22-2019 11:24 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunspot144
(Post 987971)
Less feedback left on AMZ. Like 3% do.
Ebay mobile app just shows percent positive on initial interface. Have to dig deeper to see actual number of feedback. Wonder if that was intentional... | I can't remember the last time I've paid attention to an amazon sellers feedback tho. So, yeah. Ebay seller feedback is glaring and in your face for anyone to see. Big difference. |
| phaz0rz | 03-22-2019 11:54 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by Agz
(Post 988016)
Thanks this thread is really helpful! | I'm happy to have contributed. :en: |
| Sunspot144 | 03-22-2019 11:56 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 988010)
I can't remember the last time I've paid attention to an amazon sellers feedback tho. So, yeah. Ebay seller feedback is glaring and in your face for anyone to see. Big difference. | Yer product reviews are the feedback :FF: |
| Runnynose | 03-23-2019 03:04 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! If they want 4% you raise prices 5% no choice, have to keep floating. |
| james13v | 03-23-2019 08:17 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunspot144
(Post 988022)
Yer product reviews are the feedback :FF: | Product reviews, that are shared by EVERY SELLER of that item? Yeah, no, not feedback. It's literally something no one seller has any control over. They have seller feedback for that. So are you saying the seller feedback, aren't the feedback? |
| james13v | 03-23-2019 08:18 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by Runnynose
(Post 988164)
If they want 4% you raise prices 5% no choice, have to keep floating. | If you can't afford 4%, find a new product. |
| phaz0rz | 03-23-2019 08:44 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! I can't afford 4% or find a new product. What should I do? |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-23-2019 11:22 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! lol
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| Jennifer91 | 03-23-2019 12:19 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 988230)
I can't afford 4% or find a new product. What should I do? | Rope n Chair.:laugh::pound: |
| Jennifer91 | 03-23-2019 12:20 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! People who can't on 4% yet they are on a website that's for "stealth accounts" you know? |
| degsey69 | 03-24-2019 01:17 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Being below standard carries more penalties than just extra 4% fees, you lose placing in the search for your listing on best match, they sometimes also kick in the 21 day hold on PayPal as well.
You need to keep communicating with the customer, deal with any cases opened by them in the resolution center before they can escalate it. Hate to say it but giving refunds saves the account. Also the thread starter did not mention his feedback rate which I would think is poor also. |
| agent006140 | 03-24-2019 07:27 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! if he cant afford the extra 4%,then he should quit Ebay and sell on another venue or find something else to do with his time.
why carp here ,blame yourself for being a lousy seller, |
| james13v | 03-24-2019 08:07 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 988230)
I can't afford 4% or find a new product. What should I do? | probably find a real job :heh: |
| agent006140 | 03-24-2019 08:53 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! selling on Ebay is a real job,I dont understand why people think it is not.
You hear people making 1-3k a month before tax,do you think it is not a real job spending your time finding goods to sell,taking pictures,listing them ,packing and shipping and leaving feedback and keeping records?
Packages do not just fly out of the window,you have to bring it to the post office or schedule a pickup.
If a seller is making $3k a month net of all expenses before tax,he is doing well,not too many sellers make that much,some dont even know how much they make or lose?
Oh,dont forget overtime and weekend,no one is going to compensate you for that,and dont expect dinner allowance if you work late |
| phaz0rz | 03-24-2019 09:26 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 988459)
probably find a real job :heh: | Psssshhhh.. I've never been able to. Why do you think I started selling online?
Guess I'm screwed. :shocked: |
| Sunspot144 | 03-24-2019 01:45 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! 4% doesnt go into effect until after 3mo period is up.
What ya'll conversating about. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-24-2019 01:47 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 988221)
Product reviews, that are shared by EVERY SELLER of that item? Yeah, no, not feedback. It's literally something no one seller has any control over. They have seller feedback for that. So are you saying the seller feedback, aren't the feedback? | No... only if they buy from you. It's YOUR feedback then. Cmon! |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-25-2019 08:51 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunspot144
(Post 988536)
4% doesnt go into effect until after 3mo period is up.
What ya'll conversating about. |
3 month period?
It's already in affect for some people. Has been for quite a while... |
| james13v | 03-25-2019 12:06 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 988465)
Psssshhhh.. I've never been able to. Why do you think I started selling online?
Guess I'm screwed. :shocked: | I'm in the same boat as you.... |
| james13v | 03-25-2019 12:09 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 988464)
selling on Ebay is a real job,I dont understand why people think it is not.
You hear people making 1-3k a month before tax,do you think it is not a real job spending your time finding goods to sell,taking pictures,listing them ,packing and shipping and leaving feedback and keeping records?
Packages do not just fly out of the window,you have to bring it to the post office or schedule a pickup.
If a seller is making $3k a month net of all expenses before tax,he is doing well,not too many sellers make that much,some dont even know how much they make or lose?
Oh,dont forget overtime and weekend,no one is going to compensate you for that,and dont expect dinner allowance if you work late | It's not a real job tho. Not really. I mean sure, once you get closer to $3000 a month net, and above, ok. At $2000 or less, you're at or below the poverty line. Is it real work? Sure. Is it a job? not really. If he's making $3000 net, then that seller probably isn't the person I'm talking about, eh?
If 4% makes or breaks you, while making $3000 a month, you're gross sales must be huge. a profit margin that can't take -+4%, isn't a real job. It's a waste of your time. Calculate the hours worked, and see how much you're actually making per hour. |
| TheRealist | 03-25-2019 03:09 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! This thread is spinning out of control!!
Selling on eBay is not a "Job"- it is an entrepreneurial venture- Usually at first managed by 1 individual and gradually as one becomes acquainted with the art of online sales, they may have to hire out and expand...
I left my "job" working for the State, a 9-5, to pursue eBay full time- and I have grown substantially...
Next: I hope people understand that +=4% Is huge, in any industry when it comes to sales---And I hope people understand that this applies to only one of my stores :doh: - so of course leverage is key.... |
| Sunspot144 | 03-25-2019 04:04 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealist
(Post 988861)
This thread is spinning out of control!!
Selling on eBay is not a "Job"- it is an entrepreneurial venture- Usually at first managed by 1 individual and gradually as one becomes acquainted with the art of online sales, they may have to hire out and expand...
I left my "job" working for the State, a 9-5, to pursue eBay full time- and I have grown substantially...
Next: I hope people understand that +=4% Is huge, in any industry when it comes to sales---And I hope people understand that this applies to only one of my stores :doh: - so of course leverage is key.... | 4% is huge if yer profit margins is low.
Ya ever considered going negative in small niches just to starve out competition long enough so they couldn't be in business anymore? :pop2:
I've knocked a couple competitors out of the loop! |
| james13v | 03-26-2019 07:04 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealist
(Post 988861)
This thread is spinning out of control!!
Selling on eBay is not a "Job"- it is an entrepreneurial venture- Usually at first managed by 1 individual and gradually as one becomes acquainted with the art of online sales, they may have to hire out and expand...
I left my "job" working for the State, a 9-5, to pursue eBay full time- and I have grown substantially...
Next: I hope people understand that +=4% Is huge, in any industry when it comes to sales---And I hope people understand that this applies to only one of my stores :doh: - so of course leverage is key.... | lol -+4% isn't huge if you're selling on ebay. I'm sorry. Just no. Competition on here can wake up one morning and just lower their prices 10% cause they feel like it. Then what? We aren't a brick and mortar. If 4% makes or breaks you, RUN. Go back to your steady income. If you've grown substantially but remain at a 4% breaking point, you haven't become acquainted with the are of online sales. Whoever is selling these things to you, has tho. |
| james13v | 03-26-2019 07:05 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunspot144
(Post 988876)
4% is huge if yer profit margins is low.
Ya ever considered going negative in small niches just to starve out competition long enough so they couldn't be in business anymore? :pop2:
I've knocked a couple competitors out of the loop! | Funny lol I do the opposite. I let them destroy themselves with their low prices, and then buy them out once they are done. |
| james13v | 03-26-2019 08:07 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 989013)
"their" shows ownership. :thumb: | You mean like " themselves with their low prices". Grammar Nazism is only valid when the person was making fun of someones intelligence |
| phaz0rz | 03-26-2019 08:56 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Pointing out a grammar mistake is the right thing to do regardless of the circumstances because it helps people learn. :thumb:
I wasn't trying to insult you or your intelligence. Just pointing out that you used the wrong form of the word. You used "their" in place of "they're."
Heil Thesaurus. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-26-2019 10:12 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 989006)
Funny lol I do the opposite. I let them destroy themselves with their low prices, and then buy them out once they are done. | Have to be careful with that since the last men standing will still be your competition and you get bottlenecked by demand with a basement/garage/etc full of inventory! |
| Sunspot144 | 03-26-2019 12:28 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 989043)
Pointing out a grammar mistake is the right thing to do regardless of the circumstances because it helps people learn. :thumb:
I wasn't trying to insult you or your intelligence. Just pointing out that you used the wrong form of the word. You used "their" in place of "they're."
Heil Thesaurus. | Heil Dictionary.
Thesaurus for synonyms and antonyms! |
| phaz0rz | 03-26-2019 01:08 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! :bored:
I thought a lot about it and for grammar I thought thesaurus sounded better than dictionary but I guess that technically was a spelling error so, yeah, Heil Dictionary! |
| Sunspot144 | 03-26-2019 01:44 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! |
| phaz0rz | 03-26-2019 03:11 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Low quality JPEG makes the edges look like cardboard. What's up with that. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-26-2019 03:28 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 989143)
Low quality JPEG makes the edges look like cardboard. What's up with that. | That's fine more for me. |
| james13v | 03-26-2019 03:57 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 989043)
Pointing out a grammar mistake is the right thing to do regardless of the circumstances because it helps people learn. :thumb:
I wasn't trying to insult you or your intelligence. Just pointing out that you used the wrong form of the word. You used "their" in place of "they're."
Heil Thesaurus. | lol but I used it correctly the first time, which shows you I know what the word is, and that it was clearly a mistake. I'm not ignorant, and it didn't help me learn. This is an international site as well, so it's full of poor grammar. I'll call people out for these things, but only when it's needed to show they are no better than the people they are making fun of. But in this situation? It was kinda a waste of a post. No one learned anything. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-26-2019 04:25 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Just that grammar crackers are really good. |
| degsey69 | 03-26-2019 11:33 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 989160)
lol but I used it correctly the first time, which shows you I know what the word is, and that it was clearly a mistake. I'm not ignorant, and it didn't help me learn. This is an international site as well, so it's full of poor grammar. I'll call people out for these things, but only when it's needed to show they are no better than the people they are making fun of. But in this situation? It was kinda a waste of a post. No one learned anything. | If you purchased a black colour tyre and paid by cheque, the text is full of spelling mistakes, however in the UK where the English language started it is correct (also in Canada and the majority of the English speaking world)
Tolerance for suspected grammatical errors should be observed on an international forum as it may not be incorrect in the country of the forum member. |
| phaz0rz | 03-27-2019 06:37 AM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 989160)
lol but I used it correctly the first time, which shows you I know what the word is, and that it was clearly a mistake. I'm not ignorant, and it didn't help me learn. This is an international site as well, so it's full of poor grammar. I'll call people out for these things, but only when it's needed to show they are no better than the people they are making fun of. But in this situation? It was kinda a waste of a post. No one learned anything. | I really couldn't care less about any of that. I come here to make posts and I made a post. Not a big deal.. not everything is an argument.
With that being said, $echo("if you had used it correctly I wouldn't have corrected you. You said "once their done", I said "their shows possession", and now you're typing paragraphs about it. You're wasting posteses too. Sheesh at least one of the many foreigners you mentioned may learn something.")?>
:rant:
Also, @degsey, this wasn't a regional error at all. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-27-2019 10:43 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! This thread is like watching regurgitated news. |
| TheRealist | 03-29-2019 02:37 PM | Re: Don't Fall Below Standard! Criminal fees! Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 989005)
lol -+4% isn't huge if you're selling on ebay. I'm sorry. Just no. Competition on here can wake up one morning and just lower their prices 10% cause they feel like it. Then what? We aren't a brick and mortar. If 4% makes or breaks you, RUN. Go back to your steady income. If you've grown substantially but remain at a 4% breaking point, you haven't become acquainted with the are of online sales. Whoever is selling these things to you, has tho. | I get the feeling that you are a some sort of nerd/loser who claims to know it all.
1) +-4% is huge in any market- go look at any and all industries- Mortgages- real estate- e-comm--- every percent matters as volume grows- consider 1000 pieces charged at +-4%-- Get the point small guy?
2)+-4% has not broken my business, obviously I am expanding beyond the 6 figure mark
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