Buyer shipped return UPS to stealth address

[phaz0rz]

Nah, wouldn't fly. It's openly stated that buyers on eBay have the right to use their own label or a label provided by the seller. You can see where they say that if you have any return cases that closed due to inactivity archived in your email.

[agent006140]

never mind what Ebay policy is,buyer can always file chargeback and prove he has shipped the item back,he will win when he produced tracking number
and the seller would be socked with $20 chargeback fee

[agent006140]

I would block these buyers .

[Sunspot144]

Originally Posted by agent006140

never mind what Ebay policy is,buyer can always file chargeback and prove he has shipped the item back,he will win when he produced tracking number
and the seller would be socked with $20 chargeback fee

Ha, the amount of good faith involved in online retail !

At least there is seller protection.

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by agent006140

never mind what Ebay policy is,buyer can always file chargeback and prove he has shipped the item back,he will win when he produced tracking number

To the wrong house? Doubtful. We know how important "correct address" is to paypal.

[oompaloompa]

Originally Posted by tinsoldier

Pull a stunt like that with me, and many others I suspect, and you'd be in hot water. I'd smell a rat for sure.

You messed up, keep you head down and hope that they dont suss out your illegal use of their address.

precisely, you used their address, its their package not yours....
plus if the occupant knows anything about scams, they might suspect this is even more seriously than you just using their address, which is serious enough....

[agent006140]

he may use their address,but the name is not theirs ,so they should not accept or sign for the shipment.
Unless the name is current resident?????????

[agent006140]

once my mailman delivered a letter of mine to my neighbor,it was from some outfit offering a free radio if I sign up for service via a bank where I keep an account.
They accepted the offer ,get the free radio and I get billed! for the service?

[Sunspot144]

What time does the mail come? You could intercept your mailman.

[phaz0rz]

It's a UPS package.

[Sunspot144]

Yea, meant UPS. UPS comes here between 1 and 4pm.

[Sunspot144]

$200 - $300 items, 2-3hr wait, worth $100/hr

[agent006140]

But will UPS release these packages to him,?

[Sunspot144]

Depends on the name on the shipping label. Could show UPS driver ID if it came to that ha. Or print out a page with tracking #.

[Sunspot144]

Or talk to neighbor lol...

And change the return address to another neighbor? Idk if that triggers anything.

[agent006140]

keep using neighbor address,some day neighbor will deny ever receiving the package and list the item on Ebay himself

[Sunspot144]

Haha, must be different in the city. Neighbors bring over packages whenever there's a mixup.

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by Sunspot144

And change the return address to another neighbor? Idk if that triggers anything.

Unless your neighbor is your mom I don't see how that's going to help anything in the future.

Add your own address with "front porch" in line 2 if you're really paranoid.. but there's not even any reason to do that. They don't link by return addresses because of fulfillment facilities shipping orders for hundreds of sellers from the same location.

[Sunspot144]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

Unless your neighbor is your mom I don't see how that's going to help anything in the future.

Add your own address with "front porch" in line 2 if you're really paranoid.. but there's not even any reason to do that. They don't link by return addresses because of fulfillment facilities shipping orders for hundreds of sellers from the same location.

OP expressed concern over neighbors becomming annoyed with repeat returns in the future.

If same situation happened again and neighbors wanted to know what was up changing return address would fix that.

And ya, must be big dif between rural and urban settings ha.

[Sunspot144]

I'd go with the 'buyer should have used provided label' approach and tell Ebay you never recieved the item. Ebay policy is to use provided label.. they have no way to know what address the buyer shipped to. Tracking just shows delivered city. Shift mistake back onto buyer that way.

[ilovesushi]

I feel ebay , card companies and whomever, gives buyers just so much percentage (i would say 100% most of case), if something goes wrong. There are really shady buyers out there but I would say that's like 1%ers and most buyers are very patient and wait for sellers for instructions etc. Plus if your business model is pretty valid then usually the 1%ers don't even do much damage either. This could have prevented, and similar situation happened to me so I just items that are much lower as you have to count the cost

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by Sunspot144

I'd go with the 'buyer should have used provided label' approach and tell Ebay you never recieved the item. Ebay policy is to use provided label.. they have no way to know what address the buyer shipped to. Tracking just shows delivered city. Shift mistake back onto buyer that way.

eBay never say buyer must use the ebay return label or seller label ,some buyers may not even have a printer.
as long as buyer can prove with tracking and upload it,case will close when tracking shows delivered.
Buyer could also go to Paypal to file dispute and Papal would not ask seller to provide shipping label,buyer will upload his own return lable.
and worse,there is cc chargeback.
OP is just to cheap to use a mail box