| |  | | | fustovofyo | 02-04-2020 02:14 PM | new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. hi. im a new seller and i have a situation i never have before. so i sold a 100$ value item and shipped it in a timely manner
recently i have a message from a buyer that states the item was not received by him.
my first thought was its a scam! but buyer provided me with the link to website when it clearly says the item was delivered to a wrong city and wrong zipcode
the buyer shipping address was CITY1 zipcode 111345
and the item was delivered to CITY2 zipdoce 111789
i googled both cities and the distance between cities is 40 kilometers and it really looks like the item was miss-delivered
i even called ebay to make sure thing are not right and they confirmed that the item was delivered to a wrong zipcode and wrong city
the buyer did not open INR case hes asking me to provide a proof of postage atm
was anyone in the same situation like me? how should i proceed? who ebay will side if the buyer will open INR case?
here is the tracking details https://i.imgur.com/nCtSBjw.png |
| agent006140 | 02-04-2020 02:44 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. post office talks to post office,try asking your post office to email USPS and ask them why?
I am afraid not much they can do,you will have to refund your buyer or Ebay will do it for you. |
| fustovofyo | 02-04-2020 02:48 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1066891)
Welcome.
The right thing to do would be to refund the buyer if it doesn't surface soon and make a claim with your courier.
If you allow ebay to make the final decision they'll probably refund him. | it was international sale. why is it my responsibility? can u explain please. i shipped the item in a timely manner and i shipped it to buyer address. what else can i do to make it delivered to correct address? |
| Pandoras_box | 02-04-2020 03:59 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Clickbait title. |
| degsey69 | 02-04-2020 04:24 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Was it a eBay Global sale as you are not responsible if eBay shipped the order overseas and gets misdelivered. |
| fustovofyo | 02-04-2020 04:36 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by degsey69
(Post 1066919)
Was it a eBay Global sale as you are not responsible if eBay shipped the order overseas and gets misdelivered. | i dont sell via GSP because sales are low with it
i guess buyers dont want to pay that much so i have to ship on my own |
| prodigyace | 02-04-2020 04:48 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Until the item successfully reaches the customers hands (in person) or the item "successfully" delivered to the right address (shipped), its the sellers responsibility to make things right. If roles were reversed, how would you feel?
Its up to you to contact the post office, file the claim, refund the customer or make things right, etc.
Cost of doing business my friend...it sucks, but its the life we chose. |
| agent006140 | 02-04-2020 05:00 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by fustovofyo
(Post 1066897)
it was international sale. why is it my responsibility? can u explain please. i shipped the item in a timely manner and i shipped it to buyer address. what else can i do to make it delivered to correct address? | It is your responsibility to deliver the goods in good order,you have decided t o use a particular shipper to deliver your goods.
refund your buyer and then ask your post office to contact US post office to find out why it is delivered to a different address.
question-do you have the entire tracking history?
Did your buyer move?
In US,if we move,we can file a form and ask our local post office to forward our mail to our new address |
| agent006140 | 02-04-2020 05:04 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by degsey69
(Post 1066919)
Was it a eBay Global sale as you are not responsible if eBay shipped the order overseas and gets misdelivered. | I dont think GSP is available in her country AG |
| alpet | 02-05-2020 01:53 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Open case with your Post Office.
I have never had same issue, but some of my registered mails lost, I always got at least 50 USD refund from Post Service. |
| fustovofyo | 02-05-2020 02:12 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1066935)
It is your responsibility to deliver the goods in good order,you have decided t o use a particular shipper to deliver your goods.
refund your buyer and then ask your post office to contact US post office to find out why it is delivered to a different address.
question-do you have the entire tracking history?
Did your buyer move?
In US,if we move,we can file a form and ask our local post office to forward our mail to our new address | but i only able to choose the carrier in my country and i have no power to take any actions when the item will arrive in the buyers country
why in the world is it sellers fault? i shipped to the buyers shipping address and because of carrier fault i have to pay out of my pocket? is it what its called sellers protection?
i think ebay need to cover this lose out of his pocket! |
| james13v | 02-06-2020 08:29 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. so, I might be missing the part of this story where the item shows delivered? |
| james13v | 02-06-2020 08:32 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by fustovofyo
(Post 1067017)
but i only able to choose the carrier in my country and i have no power to take any actions when the item will arrive in the buyers country
why in the world is it sellers fault? i shipped to the buyers shipping address and because of carrier fault i have to pay out of my pocket? is it what its called sellers protection?
i think ebay need to cover this lose out of his pocket! | Many countries will never have a delivery scan. That's the cost of doing business internationally, unless you're willing to pay for a better service. How does ebay know you didn't completely mess up the shipping label, and that's why it got stuck somewhere? Or messed up the customs form, so now it's stuck in customs? You will never win this case with ebay. Trust me. I have tried. Many many many times.
as sellers, we are responsible to get the item to the buyer. We choose the company that does this. We pay them. It's our responsibility. Ebay also ships items internationally, through GSP. I don't personally want to use the program. BUT, if it gets lost with them shipping it, EBAY will pay out the buyer for the loss, because it was ebays responsibility to ship the item, just as it is yours. |
| james13v | 02-06-2020 08:44 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1067312)
It's mentioned in the body of the opening post and also implied in the edited image........ | Sorry, meant to say, delivered to the buyer. Packages also show delivered if the item is returned to the sender. |
| fustovofyo | 02-06-2020 01:35 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 1067315)
Sorry, meant to say, delivered to the buyer. Packages also show delivered if the item is returned to the sender. | the order was misdelivered to a wrong city and zipcode and ebay can clearly see it |
| james13v | 02-06-2020 03:53 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by fustovofyo
(Post 1067363)
the order was misdelivered to a wrong city and zipcode and ebay can clearly see it | Doesn't change anything. |
| fustovofyo | 02-06-2020 04:28 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 1067376)
Doesn't change anything. | i dont agree
i must be covered under seller protection because all i need to do is ship to buyers address in a timely manner which i did
i dont have power to know why someone missdelivered my parcel and i have a label with correct buyers address |
| agent006140 | 02-06-2020 04:38 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. AG Antigua and Barbuda"
Buyer is in USA,but it was delivered to a different zipcode.
I think OP needs to take a lesson on retail 101.
A retailer can make money,he can also lose money. |
| james13v | 02-06-2020 04:48 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by fustovofyo
(Post 1067384)
i dont agree
i must be covered under seller protection because all i need to do is ship to buyers address in a timely manner which i did
i dont have power to know why someone missdelivered my parcel and i have a label with correct buyers address | ok, and lets say for example, you ship and item. But the box is dropped and damaged before it gets to the buyer? Where did you get this " all I need to do is ship to the correct address on time"?
I've never seen such a policy. |
| agent006140 | 02-06-2020 05:05 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. the only way OP can get seller protection by showing he has shipped but not delivered is UA,unauthorised transaction-someone used the buyer account.credit card to make a purchase and the owner of the account complained |
| fustovofyo | 02-07-2020 03:43 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1067385)
AG Antigua and Barbuda"
Buyer is in USA,but it was delivered to a different zipcode.
I think OP needs to take a lesson on retail 101. | i never said that buyer is from usa
this is international sale with no usa involved
and whats lesson 101? |
| fustovofyo | 02-07-2020 03:44 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 1067388)
ok, and lets say for example, you ship and item. But the box is dropped and damaged before it gets to the buyer? Where did you get this " all I need to do is ship to the correct address on time"?
I've never seen such a policy. | this way i can have the item be sent back to me at least
and if the buyer will fail to do so i keep the money |
| james13v | 02-07-2020 08:59 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by fustovofyo
(Post 1067492)
this way i can have the item be sent back to me at least
and if the buyer will fail to do so i keep the money | That didn't answer my question. Who's fault is it in that situation? You'd also be responsible to pay full shipping price to get the item back, AND you'd lose the shipping the buyer paid to them. |
| agent006140 | 02-07-2020 09:25 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by fustovofyo
(Post 1067492)
this way i can have the item be sent back to me at least
and if the buyer will fail to do so i keep the money | not if the buyer files chargeback with cc issuer,she could keep the item and get her money back,if she can produce evidence it is damaged,not only will you lose shipping and item,you will pay $20 chargeback fee |
| fustovofyo | 02-07-2020 09:37 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1067561)
not if the buyer files chargeback with cc issuer,she could keep the item and get her money back,if she can produce evidence it is damaged,not only will you lose shipping and item,you will pay $20 chargeback fee | chargeback does not work like this!
if i the seller sell the item and it arrived damaged to the buyer - the buyer can go to his card issuer and ask for chargeback
if the buyer can prove that i as a seller refuse to accept damaged item (on my or on buyers shipping costs) he will win chargeback
but i never refuse to accept damaged item! so the buyer will lose his chargeback claim if he dont return damaged item |
| fustovofyo | 02-07-2020 09:40 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 1067552)
That didn't answer my question. Who's fault is it in that situation? You'd also be responsible to pay full shipping price to get the item back, AND you'd lose the shipping the buyer paid to them. | when the item arrived damaged i will accept damaged item and i can make a claim with my carrier
but if the item was missdelivered i dont accept that its my fault! this way i just lose my item and i have to refund the money&!&! and i lose my item in total for nothing! |
| Kajunrook | 02-07-2020 09:54 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. I have had the same thing happen except was delivered to right address and buyer claimed it wasn't, EBAY refunded buyer but did not deduct money from my paypal because I had a delivery confirmation |
| james13v | 02-07-2020 09:58 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by fustovofyo
(Post 1067566)
when the item arrived damaged i will accept damaged item and i can make a claim with my carrier
but if the item was missdelivered i dont accept that its my fault! this way i just lose my item and i have to refund the money&!&! and i lose my item in total for nothing! | So you're admitting, that it IS your responsibility that the item arrives not damaged, and you'd have to make things right, even if you didn't cause the damage? That kinda goes against your whole " my only responsibility is to ship it on time". |
| james13v | 02-07-2020 09:59 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by Kajunrook
(Post 1067570)
I have had the same thing happen except was delivered to right address and buyer claimed it wasn't, EBAY refunded buyer but did not deduct money from my paypal because I had a delivery confirmation | Sometimes ebay does courtesy credits to either the buyer or the seller, depending on the specific type of situation. Sometimes. |
| fustovofyo | 02-07-2020 10:08 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by Kajunrook
(Post 1067570)
I have had the same thing happen except was delivered to right address and buyer claimed it wasn't, EBAY refunded buyer but did not deduct money from my paypal because I had a delivery confirmation | did u ready my first post at least?
the item was MISDELIVERED. he surely did not receive it because it was not delivered to his address!!
the question is whats so called seller protection when i have to take the lose in the case when i shipped it to correct address? the the only one who failed in this case in the carrier from the buyers country! not my carrier! |
| fustovofyo | 02-07-2020 10:16 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 1067571)
So you're admitting, that it IS your responsibility that the item arrives not damaged, and you'd have to make things right, even if you didn't cause the damage? That kinda goes against your whole " my only responsibility is to ship it on time". | my responsibility ends when the item was not delivered to the buyer!
or do u want to say u will take responsibility for the case when u shipped the item but carrier was robbed while delivery and the buyer get nothing? it is ur responsibility? tell me ! |
| james13v | 02-07-2020 11:10 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by fustovofyo
(Post 1067576)
my responsibility ends when the item was not delivered to the buyer!
or do u want to say u will take responsibility for the case when u shipped the item but carrier was robbed while delivery and the buyer get nothing? it is ur responsibility? tell me ! | by all rules and policies? That's what you signed when you signed up to sell on ebay. Do I agree or even like it? No. But I'd HAVE to take responsibility in all of these scenarios. Again, you said your responsibility ends when the item is shipped. Are you changing that story now? Are you saying that you aren't responsible for anything you shipped out, unless the item is delivered damaged? You chose the shipping carrier and contracted with them, not the buyer. |
| james13v | 02-07-2020 11:12 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by fustovofyo
(Post 1067573)
did u ready my first post at least?
the item was MISDELIVERED. he surely did not receive it because it was not delivered to his address!!
the question is whats so called seller protection when i have to take the lose in the case when i shipped it to correct address? the the only one who failed in this case in the carrier from the buyers country! not my carrier! | ok, so what seller protection are you talking about exactly ? Where did you read about it? |
| fustovofyo | 02-07-2020 11:34 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. well okay u see in only from buyers pov
i think the sale shud be fair for both the seller and the buyer
i will solve it on my own thanks for the input |
| james13v | 02-07-2020 11:50 AM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by fustovofyo
(Post 1067600)
well okay u see in only from buyers pov
i think the sale shud be fair for both the seller and the buyer
i will solve it on my own thanks for the input | lol buyers pov? I've been selling on ebay since 2001, and it's been my sole income for 6 years. You're ignoring the points that I'm making. There is nothing to solve. You're talking to a very large experienced community and we will all tell you the same thing. Go read your seller agreement and policies. This is what you signed up for. |
| fustovofyo | 02-07-2020 04:37 PM | Re: new seller. INR case when tracking shows delivered. Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 1067608)
lol buyers pov? I've been selling on ebay since 2001, and it's been my sole income for 6 years. You're ignoring the points that I'm making. There is nothing to solve. You're talking to a very large experienced community and we will all tell you the same thing. Go read your seller agreement and policies. This is what you signed up for. | looks like u do double standards dont u?
so in my case the item was misdelivered but it says DELIVERED in the tracking details anyways
and u say i will lose if the buyer open INR case right?
now tell me how is this possible if you wrote THIS? https://www.aspkin.com/forums/895279-post13.html Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 895279)
And what's your point? That's on the buyer, not the seller. If the package says delivered, you will win ( under $700 of course). Period. Everyone that says otherwise on here, is wrong, or doesn't understand how ebay works. I've won maybe 50 INR cases. Delivered? DONE. Period. NO questions asked. Doesn't matter if someone stole it from the porch or mailbox. If the buyer wants to pay for sig, they can do so. Only insurance is on the seller. | | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:48 AM. | |
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