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prowake 02-05-2020 04:15 PM

USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Just realized a shipment I dropped off last Wednesday containing 51 individual items all disappeared.

All items were accepted and show leaving the post office I used, but nothing after.

Anyone experience this? not sure what to do... value of all this was in the thousands.

yankee 02-05-2020 04:29 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
did you buy insurance? Did you inquire at your post office?

agent006140 02-05-2020 04:34 PM

Big packages seldom get lost,due to weather,it could be rerouted,call 1-800-usps Customer service,they see more tracking than we do

where is it going and where are you?

if they are going to 51 different zipcodes and there is no tracking,you better let the post office knows.
they should start tracing what happens,when were they loaded on the truck,who handled it??

Punisher 02-05-2020 04:42 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
How do you know they have disappeared, are you checking the tracking?

prowake 02-05-2020 04:49 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1067156)
Big packages seldom get lost,due to weather,it could be rerouted,call 1-800-usps Customer service,they see more tracking than we do

not a big package. this was 51 individual shipments. 51 tracking numbers

I contacted the post office and I'm waiting on a call from the post master. they have no idea

prowake 02-05-2020 04:50 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Punisher (Post 1067161)
How do you know they have disappeared, are you checking the tracking?

yes. they are showing departed from the post office than nothing, just "on the way to the next facility" for a week. all 51x. not ONE made it out of that post office.

prodigyace 02-05-2020 05:01 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
I actually have a package that stopped tracking from like January 22, still waiting for it..

prowake 02-05-2020 05:28 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prodigyace (Post 1067170)
I actually have a package that stopped tracking from like January 22, still waiting for it..

that's normal to happen once in a while but ALL of my shipments from the same drop day and location?

ebaystealth1974 02-05-2020 07:45 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Jeez... definitely an odd situation!

prowake 02-05-2020 10:17 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1067153)
did you buy insurance? Did you inquire at your post office?

no insurance. each item is about $70 worth. Post office is going to check with the truck driver to see what happened

meanwhile im opening a missing mail search request on every shipment. fun.

maybe I should switch to priority mail only... at least if this happened again I would get paid $5100

SaiJin 02-05-2020 10:49 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
That's not normal and I assume for that many shipments it wouldn't be hard to follow.

USPS has an internal scan on their computer that we customers don't see.
If you haven't already, I'd run to the post office first thing in the morning and have them search and call that center where the last scan was.

ebaystealth1974 02-05-2020 11:05 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1067211)


If you haven't already, I'd run to the post office first thing in the morning and have them search and call that center where the last scan was.

Has has already contacted them.

And the last scan was THAT post office.

Futuremogul888 02-05-2020 11:27 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
I had something similar happen once and at the same time there was this news story about a postal truck bursting into flames on a local highway. Found out that all the packages were on that truck to go to the sorting center. They were not insured so I was told I was out of luck.

james13v 02-06-2020 08:25 AM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Futuremogul888 (Post 1067216)
I had something similar happen once and at the same time there was this news story about a postal truck bursting into flames on a local highway. Found out that all the packages were on that truck to go to the sorting center. They were not insured so I was told I was out of luck.

I'd think that THEIR insurance would cover the packages lost in such an accident. I mean, just, wow. Amazing that a company, let alone government run, works like this. I'll never understand it. We are essentially paying extortion or bribe money, to make sure their jobs right lol. We have to pay them extra, so that if they mess up, they have to pay us for their mess up. Does this actually make sense to anyone else? It's like paying the mob protection money, FROM THEM.

ebaystealth1974 02-06-2020 08:25 AM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unkown5454 (Post 1067232)

now they just jacked up all their pricing again significantly on first class packages.

I've not noticed significant changes in first class mail. what are you talking about?

james13v 02-06-2020 08:26 AM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prowake (Post 1067151)
Just realized a shipment I dropped off last Wednesday containing 51 individual items all disappeared.

All items were accepted and show leaving the post office I used, but nothing after.

Anyone experience this? not sure what to do... value of all this was in the thousands.

You know, I'm never going to complain about my packages getting lost. What happened to you, is insane, but thankfully exceptionally rare. Something really big had to happen. Did you at least get the packages scanned within your handling time? 50 late packages will destroy your account.

james13v 02-06-2020 08:28 AM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1067305)
I've not noticed significant changes in first class mail. what are you talking about?

"significant" is a significant exaggeration lol They were raised by pennies. I suppose if you ship 100 items a day, it might cost you a few extra $100 a month, but if you're selling 3000 items a month, you better be making some decent money for all that effort.

phaz0rz 02-06-2020 08:30 AM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
My mail carrier once scanned ~150 of our shipments as being "picked up" in Lake Worth, FL. We ship from a couple states away from FL. None of the shipments ever showed anything other than being "picked up" in lake worth. I had to refund nearly all of the customers. After a month those shipment slowly started being returned to my mailbox.

One small screwup by a postal employee can have drastic effects.

This doesn't sound that bad though. Sometimes we have shipments go out that aren't scanned until they reach the destination post office. Tracking doesn't always work like it's supposed to.

Anyway, I don't think your 51 shipments were lost in a void. They're probably in transit somewhere. Either they will start showing updates soon, they'll never show updates but your customers will receive them, or they'll all be returned to you. There's also a slim chance they could all end up in the mail recovery center where they would be opened and the contents auctioned off.

james13v 02-06-2020 08:37 AM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1067309)
My mail carrier once scanned ~150 of our shipments as being "picked up" in Lake Worth, FL. We ship from a couple states away from FL. None of the shipments ever showed anything other than being "picked up" in lake worth. I had to refund nearly all of the customers. After a month those shipment slowly started being returned to my mailbox.

One small screwup by a postal employee can have drastic effects.

This doesn't sound that bad though. Sometimes we have shipments go out that aren't scanned until they reach the destination post office. Tracking doesn't always work like it's supposed to.

Anyway, I don't think your 51 shipments were lost in a void. They're probably in transit somewhere. Either they will start showing updates soon, they'll never show updates but your customers will receive them, or they'll all be returned to you. There's also a slim chance they could all end up in the mail recovery center where they would be opened and the contents auctioned off.

I don't see why how it was initially scanned, would have an effect on delivery? I once had a bunch of packages scanned IN, as delivered.... Buyers were not thrilled seeing that notification lol. " your item has shipped". An hour later " your item has been delivered".

As far as mail recovery. You'd think they could see invoices inside and contact people.... Still can't believe that they get to keep the fruits of their own mistakes. " oops, scuffed this box that says rolex watch. I can't see the address now. OH WELL". These *******s make an extra $11 MILLION a year doing this. Of the 88 million items per year that goes through that department, a mere 2.5 million actually make it. That's less than 3%. The rest get auctioned off FOR PROFIT.

phaz0rz 02-06-2020 08:44 AM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
I've had them scanned in as delivered also. That's also a bit of a nightmare, but at least when that happens the shipment will continue showing normal updates as it moves. The one time my carrier screwed up the zip code where the shipments were picked up, they just never did anything. It's like the sorting facility couldn't make sense of why the shipments were picked up 800 miles away, so they just decided to sit on them, lol.

RE the MRC, I'm too far away but I go on govdeals all the time to see what kind of stolen merchandise they're auctioning off on a given week. They'll group together lots of iPhones and auction them off for pennies on the dollar. Makes me feel sorry for the poor sucker who originally shipped them. I first became aware of their practice when I was reading a story a few years ago about an author who shipped a box with a few hundred of his books. He shipped them media mail and they went missing. Took him several months to figure out what happened, but he eventually found his books being auctioned off on govdeals. :/

ebaystealth1974 02-06-2020 09:00 AM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1067307)
"significant" is a significant exaggeration lol They were raised by pennies.

I suppose if you ship 100 items a day, it might cost you a few extra $100 a month, but if you're selling 3000 items a month, you better be making some decent money for all that effort.


Yup :lol:

True. I remember back when I used to do the high-volume/low profit method, and would ship 7000+ packages a month. A quarter increase would have HEAVILY cut into my profits!

I know the prices raised for first class, but I can't even really identify how much. and I used it everyday. lol

Kajunrook 02-06-2020 10:56 AM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1067156)
Big packages seldom get lost,due to weather,it could be rerouted,call 1-800-usps Customer service,they see more tracking than we do

where is it going and where are you?

if they are going to 51 different zipcodes and there is no tracking,you better let the post office knows.
they should start tracing what happens,when were they loaded on the truck,who handled it??

It has to be a certain amount of time before they will track a missing item.

ebaystealth1974 02-06-2020 12:25 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 1067344)
It has to be a certain amount of time before they will track a missing item.


45 days for first class...

ebaystealth1974 02-06-2020 12:29 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1067311)
I don't see why how it was initially scanned, would have an effect on delivery?

That's what I'm thinking. I've printed labels, then went out of town for the weekend and mailed them there. Hours away.

And I'm sure everyone in the world has printed return labels with their own address as both addresses.

Never had a problem with either. Or maybe I'm not understanding the exact scenario?

agent006140 02-06-2020 04:51 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prowake (Post 1067151)
Just realized a shipment I dropped off last Wednesday containing 51 individual items all disappeared.

All items were accepted and show leaving the post office I used, but nothing after.

Anyone experience this? not sure what to do... value of all this was in the thousands.

if all 51 shipments show no further tracking and you said they are going to different zipcodes,then your post office is the one which has to find out what happens,did you turn these shipments to a clerk at the counter?
or you just drop off thru a slot and someone at the back scanned each one?
They may still be with your post office,somewhere in a corner ?
or fell off a truck?
or a frustrated worker just trashed them all,do you have enemy at the local post office?
I would go to the post office and speak t o a supervisor,ask them to look around ?

agent006140 02-06-2020 05:01 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 1067344)
It has to be a certain amount of time before they will track a missing item.

all undeliverable mail ended up in a place in California,kind of like the mail morgue where mail goes to die?
But in his case,they could still be in the post office. or left the post office but never make it to the next facility.

james13v 02-06-2020 05:39 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1067390)
all undeliverable mail ended up in a place in California,kind of like the mail morgue where mail goes to die?
But in his case,they could still be in the post office. or left the post office but never make it to the next facility.

ok, and that has what to do with the comment you were replying to?

prowake 02-06-2020 06:01 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
still no movement

I was able to open missing mail inquiries on all. has to be done 7 days after the last "movement"

this wasn't the usual post office I use and I did drop everything through the mail drop inside, but I did speak to the person who handled all 51x items and she remembered placing everything of mine into their own separate little tub.

postmaster spoke to the driver and nothing out of the ordinary was recalled. all "tubs" get loaded onto a "cage" and that cage is loaded into the truck then unloaded at the hub. she's still waiting to speak to the hub manager who's apparently on vacation this week.

I have since replaced all of the items, with the exception of a few that ran out of stock. and since this lovely coronaviru is rampant, I have no idea when im going to be able to restock

so either I start using flat rate priority shipping and file claims on all unscanned/missing parcels... or keep rolling the dice. YEARS of doing this, this has never happened. I ship about 500x units a month... $3 in shipping compared to $7... hmm.

qdo 02-11-2020 03:06 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
This has happened to me before. The carriers are supposed to scan the packages at every loading point, this does not always happen. The packages will probably show up as delivered with no other tracking information in between.

james13v 02-11-2020 03:12 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qdo (Post 1068564)
This has happened to me before. The carriers are supposed to scan the packages at every loading point, this does not always happen. The packages will probably show up as delivered with no other tracking information in between.

Now that, is an understatement lol

prowake 02-11-2020 03:22 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
update: tub was found 2 weeks later, at the hub. Contacted customers, but most aren't responding. what a loss. oh well

agent006140 02-11-2020 03:25 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
can yu ask them to return them?

ebaystealth1974 02-11-2020 03:36 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prowake (Post 1068571)
update: tub was found 2 weeks later, at the hub. Contacted customers, but most aren't responding. what a loss. oh well

Just chillin, with no intentions of being delivered?

prowake 02-11-2020 03:38 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1068573)
can yu ask them to return them?

I have asked the customers, USPS would not return them

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1068576)
Just chillin, with no intentions of being delivered?

yep. likely got stuffed somewhere, got a tub placed on top of it, im not sure, my packages are very small so I imagine someone put an empty tub on top of it and put it somewhere stupid

james13v 02-11-2020 03:53 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prowake (Post 1068578)
I have asked the customers, USPS would not return them



yep. likely got stuffed somewhere, got a tub placed on top of it, im not sure, my packages are very small so I imagine someone put an empty tub on top of it and put it somewhere stupid

wait.... they are still going to deliver the packages???

assad 02-11-2020 04:04 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
i had this same situation with myhermes it was around 70 parcels luckily most did end up getting delivered but still like 6 7 never did get delivered.

ebaystealth1974 02-11-2020 04:58 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prowake (Post 1068578)


yep. likely got stuffed somewhere, got a tub placed on top of it, im not sure, my packages are very small so I imagine someone put an empty tub on top of it and put it somewhere stupid


So, what happens to the packages now?

For $3500 worth of product, they can just hold that shiit right there and I'd come and get it!

prowake 02-11-2020 05:09 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1068607)
So, what happens to the packages now?

For $3500 worth of product, they can just hold that shiit right there and I'd come and get it!

yeah they just acted like nothing happened. my local post office never got a response from the hub about the ordeal. so now my customers have 2x the product

ebaystealth1974 02-11-2020 05:43 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prowake (Post 1068609)
yeah they just acted like nothing happened. my local post office never got a response from the hub about the ordeal. so now my customers have 2x the product


:argue::argue::argue:

james13v 02-11-2020 05:45 PM

Re: USPS lost 50 item shipment of mine. WTF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prowake (Post 1068609)
yeah they just acted like nothing happened. my local post office never got a response from the hub about the ordeal. so now my customers have 2x the product

I'd raise such a stink lol. I've had the cops called on me by the manager, after an issue that was way less than that.


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