Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by secret storm

Nah if that was true this forum would have WAY more and I mean way MORE than 60,113 members and WAY,WAY MORE than 2,796 active members.

From Father Son to Mother Daughter all across the world that all live together and use Ebay legitimately to buy and sell that were non stealth.

Ebay has public databases they can see who is real and who is not and they will know what family should live at what address.

If every single member that used Ebay or Paypal now was banned from real people that used their real information Ebay would be the most hated company in the world and #1 on every single most hated company list. All from families using their real information that got them banned.

I'm sorry your not smart enough to see and understand that GhostOfAmazon.

What are you talking about?

If you, John Smith, live at 123 Main Street, Anytown, USA, 12345, and your account is suspended, and your sister, Jane Smith, lives at the same address, and has the same registration info except for the name, her account will also be suspended.

That's a simple fact. If you don't believe me, test it yourself.

[secret storm]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

What are you talking about?

If you, John Smith, live at 123 Main Street, Anytown, USA, 12345, and your account is suspended, and your sister, Jane Smith, lives at the same address, and has the same registration info except for the name, her account will also be suspended.

That's a simple fact. If you don't believe me, test it yourself.

I never said anything against one family member being suspended would NOT lead to another family member NOT being suspended.

But yes if you are John Smith that lived at 123 Main Street and did something wrong and got suspended Jane Smith that lived at 123 Main Street would also be suspended.

Its funny how you change your story and try to put words in my mouth.

I was replying to your post #22 when you said:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

Family members that live under the same roof ARE banned. Read the forum genius.

That's clearly not true as I said earlier there are millions of families that live under the same roof at the same address that use Ebay that are not banned.

If every family that uses Ebay was banned like you said in post #22 this forum would have WAY WAY WAY MORE Members! Because there are Millions of families at the same address that use Ebay. You can find Aspkin's forums by simply doing a Google search with keywords of Ebay Suspended, Ebay MC999, Ebay Banned, ETC.

Its so funny how I have told you to look at your posts and have told you some of the same information over again. I feel like i'm talking to a 4th grader that has an attention span of a gnat.

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by secret storm

I never said anything against one family member being suspended would NOT lead to another family member NOT being suspended.

But yes if you are John Smith that lived at 123 Main Street and did something wrong and got suspended Jane Smith that lived at 123 Main Street would also be suspended.

Its funny how you change your story and try to put words in my mouth.

I was replying to your post #22 when you said:



That's clearly not true as I said earlier there are millions of families that live under the same roof at the same address that use Ebay that are not banned.

If every family that uses Ebay was banned like you said in post #22 this forum would have WAY WAY WAY MORE Members! Because there are Millions of families at the same address that use Ebay. You can find Aspkin's forums by simply doing a Google search with keywords of Ebay Suspended, Ebay MC999, Ebay Banned, ETC.

Its so funny how I have told you to look at your posts and have told you some of the same information over again. I feel like i'm talking to a 4th grader that has an attention span of a gnat.

*le sigh*

You're obviously a troll who's deliberately misunderstanding me to try and argue. I'm not going to entertain your pointless babble any longer. You're not smarter than eBay---your theory sucks, it's been tested and it's failed more times than my post count. Instead of trying to have pointless arguments, try READING the forum, you'll learn a lot.

Then again, maybe not. You appear to be quite incompetent.

[secret storm]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

*le sigh*

You're obviously a troll who's deliberately misunderstanding me to try and argue. I'm not going to entertain your pointless babble any longer. You're not smarter than eBay---your theory sucks, it's been tested and it's failed more times than my post count. Instead of trying to have pointless arguments, try READING the forum, you'll learn a lot.

Then again, maybe not. You appear to be quite incompetent.

blahahahaha GhostofAmazon i'm laughing hysterically at you now. Look at the links below where families have had accounts that live in the same house.

Its you that needs to do your research to learn and get to know what your talking about before you speak

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/multipl...e-address.html

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...r-same-ip.html

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...-accounts.html

http://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive...r/td-p/3119972

Its very common for families to use the same information just different first names as I have told you countless times now. These links I posted are not even a bucket out of the ocean.

Just image how many family accounts use Ebay that seldom or frequently to buy and sell things on Ebay and your telling me that every single one of them are banned now?

Why don't your go ahead and name the Husband and Wives that used Ebay and got banned, The Mother and Daughters that got banned, Or the Father and Sons that got banned ?

Because according to your posts it will get every single one of them banned.

[dealagreeproceed]

uhhh hey guys your actually pretty much agreeing with each other. man some people love to argue

[tromoto]

In a few words, your system will not work. They will cough you sooner or later.

For a single person can have only 2 accounts. NO MORE.

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by tromoto

For a single person can have only 2 accounts. NO MORE.

Again, NOT true.

[dallis]

In post #21 I said: EB rules say you CAN have more than 2 accounts

In post #23 Ghost said: You can have as many accounts as you want... STOP posting false info.

You're agreeing with what I said. What false information do you want me to stop posting?

Reading IS fundamental.

[notsosureaboutit]

who is going the win?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-li0BkMVD7L...o+Fighting.jpg

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by dallis

In post #21 I said: EB rules say you CAN have more than 2 accounts

In post #23 Ghost said: You can have as many accounts as you want... STOP posting false info.

You're agreeing with what I said. What false information do you want me to stop posting?

Reading IS fundamental.

The entirety of what you posted is as follows:

Originally Posted by dallis

EB rules say you can have more than 2 accounts, but the products being sold have to be very different.

Notice the bold part. That is NOT true. You can have two different accounts because you like to use account 1 on Tuesday and account 2 on Thursday. You don't need any particular reason. The only caveat is you can't use multiple accounts to circumvent eBay policy, period.

[dallis]

EB policy: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...-accounts.html

Excepted from the EB policy page paragraph 1:

users who like to buy and sell may want separate accounts for each activity. Other users who maintain businesses on eBay may prefer to manage separate accounts for different product lines.

I know they limit it to two, because my personal experience ( repeated over the years ) is that more than two accounts selling similar products will cause all three to be shut down.

Also, because of the selling limits clause of this policy, the BEST case scenario is that the highest/lowest limit may be divided between all three accounts to prevent circumventing your selling limits, per the policy page as copied below:

Not allowed: Registering new accounts or using other existing accounts to avoid buying and selling restrictions or limits or other policy consequences.

By definition, as established above, using multiple accounts to sell the same or similar items IS a policy violation, by attempting to circumvent policy limits.

If you want to waste time, money and effort, go ahead and try, but the end result is inevitable.

[VavoTechnology]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

*le sigh*

You're obviously a troll who's deliberately misunderstanding me to try and argue. I'm not going to entertain your pointless babble any longer. You're not smarter than eBay---your theory sucks, it's been tested and it's failed more times than my post count. Instead of trying to have pointless arguments, try READING the forum, you'll learn a lot.

Then again, maybe not. You appear to be quite incompetent.

Kid, shut the hell up. Nobody cares about your post count, theres experienced stealth sellers who just joined Aspkin after being mastered Stealth members on Blackhat.

Honestly, you started to insult him when telling him on how much crack he's smoking. Don't you find that quite rude. I would find it quite suspicious OP if I were PayPal and you had more then 2 accounts Just make sure your account doesn't get manually reviewed :P

Thanks everyone.

[solefoodbk]

Here we go again...

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by dallis

EB policy: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...-accounts.html

Excepted from the EB policy page paragraph 1:

users who like to buy and sell may want separate accounts for each activity. Other users who maintain businesses on eBay may prefer to manage separate accounts for different product lines.

Also, because of the selling limits clause of this policy, the BEST case scenario is that the highest/lowest limit may be divided between all three accounts to prevent circumventing your selling limits, per the policy page as copied below:

Not allowed: Registering new accounts or using other existing accounts to avoid buying and selling restrictions or limits or other policy consequences.

By definition, as established above, using multiple accounts to sell the same or similar items IS a policy violation, by attempting to circumvent policy limits.

If you want to waste time, money and effort, go ahead and try, but the end result is inevitable.

Pay attention to the bold.

Vocabulary is VERY important. You are NOT allowed to use multiple accounts to try to circumvent policies or account restrictions. You ARE allowed to have multiple accounts.

It's very simple.

[SilentHill]

Please rethink your ebay strategy or suffer.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by SilentHill

Please rethink your ebay strategy or suffer.

Cryptic message

[james13v]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

The entirety of what you posted is as follows:



Notice the bold part. That is NOT true. You can have two different accounts because you like to use account 1 on Tuesday and account 2 on Thursday. You don't need any particular reason. The only caveat is you can't use multiple accounts to circumvent eBay policy, period.

You're right with the other stuff you've said, but not this one.

You can't in fact have 2 or more accounts, selling the same product .Not even in the same category of products. I've talked to many ebay reps about this.

Will you get banned? Maybe not. But can you ? Hell yeah, because you are circumventing selling limits. If you are selling the same products on multiple accounts, you are in essence selling twice as much of the same product, but spread over 2 accounts, instead of the limit you received on the one account.

You can have 2-3-4-5-6 accounts. I don't give a crap. But they are meant for DIFFERENT products. Different accounts in order to differentiate the product lines. So that you aren't selling automotive parts on the same account you're selling baby clothes.

[yankee]

Originally Posted by james13v

You're right with the other stuff you've said, but not this one.

You can't in fact have 2 or more accounts, selling the same product .Not even in the same category of products. I've talked to many ebay reps about this.

Will you get banned? Maybe not. But can you ? Hell yeah, because you are circumventing selling limits. If you are selling the same products on multiple accounts, you are in essence selling twice as much of the same product, but spread over 2 accounts, instead of the limit you received on the one account.

You can have 2-3-4-5-6 accounts. I don't give a crap. But they are meant for DIFFERENT products. Different accounts in order to differentiate the product lines. So that you aren't selling automotive parts on the same account you're selling baby clothes.

Duplicate listing policies and shared selling limits come into play a well.

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by james13v

You're right with the other stuff you've said, but not this one.

You can't in fact have 2 or more accounts, selling the same product .Not even in the same category of products. I've talked to many ebay reps about this.

Will you get banned? Maybe not. But can you ? Hell yeah, because you are circumventing selling limits. If you are selling the same products on multiple accounts, you are in essence selling twice as much of the same product, but spread over 2 accounts, instead of the limit you received on the one account.

You can have 2-3-4-5-6 accounts. I don't give a crap. But they are meant for DIFFERENT products. Different accounts in order to differentiate the product lines. So that you aren't selling automotive parts on the same account you're selling baby clothes.

Please stop picking out little pieces of what I said to disagree with. Read the entire post.

You can have as many accounts as you want, so long as you aren't violating eBay policy.

That includes search manipulation, selling limits, etc etc etc.

The end. Moving on....

[james13v]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

Please stop picking out little pieces of what I said to disagree with. Read the entire post.

You can have as many accounts as you want, so long as you aren't violating eBay policy.

That includes search manipulation, selling limits, etc etc etc.

The end. Moving on....

Seriously man? I'm almost always on your side, and always defending stuff when I see it. I was agreeing with you on everything but one thing, and you give me **** for you?

NO, YOU read the entire post.

You responded to someone that said

EB rules say you can have more than 2 accounts, but the products being sold have to be very different.

And you disagreed with that person, and went on about ebay policy. Guess what. THAT IS EBAY POLICY. Putting the same products or the same type of products up on two accounts, IS GOING AGAINST EBAY POLICY. They have to be different types of products, because that's the only reason ebay would allow you to have more than one account.

You disagreed with him for absolutely no reason. You didn't need to say a damn thing in response to that one specific post of dallis, yet you still decided to do so.

And when I interject with valid information, you give ME **** for it? man, this is why people get pissed off at you. Even when people are on your side, you still go against them.

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by james13v

Seriously man? I'm almost always on your side, and always defending stuff when I see it. I was agreeing with you on everything but one thing, and you give me **** for you?

NO, YOU read the entire post.

You responded to someone that said



And you disagreed with that person, and went on about ebay policy. Guess what. THAT IS EBAY POLICY. Putting the same products or the same type of products up on two accounts, IS GOING AGAINST EBAY POLICY. They have to be different types of products, because that's the only reason ebay would allow you to have more than one account.

You disagreed with him for absolutely no reason. You didn't need to say a damn thing in response to that one specific post of dallis, yet you still decided to do so.

And when I interject with valid information, you give ME **** for it? man, this is why people get pissed off at you. Even when people are on your side, you still go against them.

No, it isn't. Manipulating search or going around selling limits is.

If you have one account that sells Brand X or Baby Carriage, and another than sells Brand Y, that's ok. They aren't "very different" but it's also clear you aren't attempting to violate eBay policy. If you have 300 diffent items on Account A, and then put the exact same 300 items on account B, obviously you're manipulating search results. It has nothing to do with the two accounts, but rather clogging eBays search with the same item ("search and browse manipulation" policy)

Please stop spreading misinformation.

[james13v]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

No, it isn't. Manipulating search or going around selling limits is.

If you have one account that sells Brand X or Baby Carriage, and another than sells Brand Y, that's ok. They aren't "very different" but it's also clear you aren't attempting to violate eBay policy. If you have 300 diffent items on Account A, and then put the exact same 300 items on account B, obviously you're manipulating search results. It has nothing to do with the two accounts, but rather clogging eBays search with the same item ("search and browse manipulation" policy)

Please stop spreading misinformation.

I've spoken to multiple ebay reps, and they ALL agree. It has nothing to do with different brands. It's types of products that they are concerned about.

I in no way can setup an ebay store to sell Omega watches and another to sell Tag heuer watches, and another to sell Cartier watches. That would be against policy, because I'm selling watches, and I want to have more selling limit.

Hell, they even told me I can't sell in the same category or type of item.

I wanted to sell ONLY watch dials on one account. They said absolutely not. Because I sell watch parts, and that's a watch part.

Get your info straight and stop spreading misinformation