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| Harariman99 | 04-03-2020 10:05 AM |
MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Received an MC011 2 weeks ago, perhaps because I received a large volume of orders and was late in shipping out a portion (but I’m still above standard!).
eBay requested proof of purchase, I supplied receipts.
Then they request the fees be paid for them to proceed with the case and “consider” reinstatement. Reading the email, it felt like they’re not going to reinstate my account. My fees are close to 3k. A friend was saying to forget it and just get another account, but idk. What do you think |
| Harariman99 | 04-03-2020 10:09 AM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
I sold bundles of toilet paper some time before the suspension a few weeks ago. I sold shoes (80% of my last 90 days sold items were shoes), too, but just sent the receipts for the shoes as it would have been weird to show toilet paper receipts. |
| SaiJin | 04-03-2020 10:14 AM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Well, if you pwe them money, then you need to pay it. |
| phaz0rz | 04-03-2020 11:04 AM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
You'll have to decide if you'd rather pay the $3k, or have a delinquent account showing on your credit report for the next several years. I'm assuming this is your real account so if you don't pay, they will definitely send your bill to a collection agency.
Personally I'd just square up with eBay. You've already made your money.. not really cool to hold back eBay's cut when you they're the ones that helped you get paid in the first place. |
| Harariman99 | 04-03-2020 12:12 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
It just irked me how they requested it be paid now for the case to be considered, since it’s not really due until 2 weeks from now. |
| Pandoras_box | 04-03-2020 12:43 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1082283)
You'll have to decide if you'd rather pay the $3k, or have a delinquent account showing on your credit report for the next several years. I'm assuming this is your real account so if you don't pay, they will definitely send your bill to a collection agency.
Personally I'd just square up with eBay. You've already made your money.. not really cool to hold back eBay's cut when you they're the ones that helped you get paid in the first place.
| Thanks for the voice of reason. Holding onto eBay fees just makes stealth harder for everyone eventually. |
| phaz0rz | 04-03-2020 12:47 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harariman99
(Post 1082293)
It just irked me how they requested it be paid now for the case to be considered, since it’s not really due until 2 weeks from now.
| Lol. This isn't their first rodeo and they know exactly what you're thinking. Holding the reinstatement of your account over your head is basically the only leverage eBay has against you, so that's what they're doing, in hopes that you'll pay up instead of abandon your account. |
| Bigblackdog | 04-03-2020 01:05 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1082263)
Well, if you pwe them money, then you need to pay it.
| That;s very charitable - especially considering what an understanding and charitable organisation Ebay is
Sorry but my response would be sue me if you can find me |
| Bigblackdog | 04-03-2020 01:10 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandoras_box
(Post 1082296)
Thanks for the voice of reason. Holding onto eBay fees just makes stealth harder for everyone eventually.
| Oh please - this is peeing up my back and telling me it's raining - do you seriously advocate that the OP paying a multi million pound company 3 grand will make stealth easier? Can I have some of what you're smoking please? |
| phaz0rz | 04-03-2020 01:39 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigblackdog
(Post 1082303)
Sorry but my response would be sue me if you can find me
| I doubt they'd sue you in the US but it would drag your credit score down quite a bit, and I don't know whether or not the collections agencies apply interest to the amount they're trying to collect from you. |
| Pandoras_box | 04-03-2020 01:47 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigblackdog
(Post 1082305)
Oh please - this is peeing up my back and telling me it's raining - do you seriously advocate that the OP paying a multi million pound company 3 grand will make stealth easier? Can I have some of what you're smoking please?
| That illustration does not fit. It comes off as a cop-out for mounting a sophisticated argument.
I suppose there aren't thousands of sellers who have walked away with eBay fees. OP must be the first to consider it.
Stealth accounts are getting harder to create and operate. Based on what I've deduced (even considering eBay's condition to OP) it would appear eBay is taking significant steps to rein in their losses due to uncollected fees or refunds that have to come out of their pocket.
If you do not think this is one of the reasons eBay stealth is progressively getting complicated, I'd like to hear your opinion.
Morals aside, why shouldn't people pay for the service they receive?
You'd imagine that people who have this as their only income or at least benefit from it would want to keep the entire eco-system alive.
At what point do you think dodging fees will constitute a problem for everyone? What would happen if 10, 50 or 90% of sellers elect to do as you infer? |
| Harariman99 | 04-03-2020 01:49 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Welp, paid it about an hour ago and just received an indefinite suspension .. |
| Bigblackdog | 04-03-2020 01:56 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandoras_box
(Post 1082314)
That illustration does not fit. It comes off as a cop-out for mounting a sophisticated argument.
I suppose there aren't thousands of sellers who have walked away with eBay fees. OP must be the first to consider it.
In my opinion,
It's like
Stealth accounts are getting harder to create and operate. Based on what I've deduced (even considering eBay's condition to OP) it would appear eBay is taking significant steps to rein in their losses due to uncollected fees or refunds that have to come out of their pocket.
If you do not think this is one of the reasons eBay stealth is progressively getting complicated, I'd like to hear your opinion.
Morals aside, why shouldn't people pay for the service they receive?
You'd imagine that people who have this as their only income or at least benefit from it would want to keep the entire eco-system alive.
At what point do you think dodging fees will constitute a problem for everyone? What would happen if 10, 50 or 90% of sellers elect to do as you infer?
| Still think it was a good idea to pay it? |
| phaz0rz | 04-03-2020 02:00 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harariman99
(Post 1082315)
Welp, paid it about an hour ago and just received an indefinite suspension ..
| Not the first time I've heard of them doing that. At least your credit score won't be lowered. Your toilet paper sales probably didn't go in your favor when they were doing their "considering."
You can always get an LLC and/or stealth account. :noidea: |
| Pandoras_box | 04-03-2020 02:01 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1082300)
Normally I'd agree, but on a forum which effectively revolves around fraud with moderators actively promoting it (see above poster - not phaz0rz clearly) the irony and requests for integrity seem somewhat ironic.
Here's a thought....how about decrying stealth (fraud) because it makes life harder for decent honest sellers.
| While fraud and outright theft both prohibit the same kind of behaviour, I do not think they both carry the same weight.
Phaking docs is fraud, withholding fees is stealing. |
| Bigblackdog | 04-03-2020 02:08 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1082318)
Not the first time I've heard of them doing that. At least your credit score won't be lowered. Your toilet paper sales probably didn't go in your favor when they were doing their "considering."
You can always get an LLC and/or stealth account. :noidea:
| Yes - but he could have done this without paying three grand
The holier than thou attitude in this thread blows my mind |
| Pandoras_box | 04-03-2020 02:08 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigblackdog
(Post 1082317)
Still think it was a good idea to pay it?
| Perhaps this would sound better to your ears: "No, it was a bad idea. He should have ran off with their money and not paid for the services he received."
This forum is not about robbing anyone, it is about turning a profit. eBay provided him with a platform to turn a profit in exchange for their fees.
What is so seductive about stealing their money on the way out?
Op can just make more stealth accounts and carry on with his business. It doesn't take cleaning out eBay to do that. |
| Bigblackdog | 04-03-2020 02:11 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandoras_box
(Post 1082322)
Perhaps this would sound better to your ears: "No, it was a bad idea. He should have ran off with their money and not paid for the services he received."
This forum is not about robing anyone, it is about turning a profit. eBay provided him with a platform to turn a profit in exchange for their fees.
What is so seductive about stealing their money on the way out?
Op can just make more stealth accounts and carry on with his business. It doesn't take cleaning out eBay to do that.
| You cannot be serious - surely - you are advocating that the OP commits fraud - and that is what stealth is - but should pay someone who wants to do him harm?
Your logic defies all understanding |
| Pandoras_box | 04-03-2020 02:13 PM |
Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
Not at all trying to be holy or advocating for eBay. I just think that if we keep skipping fees, more and more people would latch on and it would make stealth more difficult for all of us eventually.
Notice I'm not saying anything about faking docs - because we must do that to keep our accounts going. But cleaning out eBay is needless and gives them a reason to tighten the screw on us. |
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