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phaz0rz 04-03-2020 02:19 PM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog (Post 1082321)
Yes - but he could have done this without paying three grand

The holier than thou attitude in this thread blows my mind

There's no possible way he could have spared his credit score without paying what he owes.

I'm not meaning to blow your mind. I guess I'm loyal to eBay because they've been very good to me over the years. Stealth isn't fraud in the US and I don't want to see it become any harder to run accounts. If enough sellers run off with what they owe there's no doubt stealth would become harder.. because that's the kind of thing that would encourage eBay to more carefully verify the people they're allowing to sell.

:noidea:

This isn't even an argument from my POV. If you use the service you're supposed to pay for it.

Bigblackdog 04-03-2020 02:20 PM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harariman99 (Post 1082315)
Welp, paid it about an hour ago and just received an indefinite suspension ..

I'm really sorry to read that

As you can see certain members of this forum believe you did the right thing - even though it was likely that the outcome would be the same - it wasn't their money after all

I hope you can get going again and recover and my I be presumptuous and suggest you be very careful who you take advise from in the future

Good luck for the future

Pandoras_box 04-03-2020 02:22 PM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1082325)
What's your point? This forum is dedicated to fraud and stealing and is actively assisted. (phake docs are available ;) )

I merely pointed out the irony of a moderator and seller of such wares telling a punter to behave properly.


If any of us could get away with it, without any repercussions whatsoever, we'd do it. If anyone says otherwise then I'm inclined to dismiss them as fibbers. Through my creative business model I'm knowingly defrauding the UK tax system, robbing ebay would therefore be walk in the park.

Forum dedicated to stealing? That's new to me. I know I have not traversed all corners of this forum so perhaps you can point me in the right direction. I'm not discounting your notion, I just haven't deduced that yet.


I do not think everyone here would agree when you infer we would all cheat bar the repercussions.
If you're defrauding the UK government and eBay, that's your choice. But you'd have an extraordinary claim waiting for you to substantiate if you make that a blanket accusation

Bigblackdog 04-03-2020 02:26 PM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1082328)
There's no possible way he could have spared his credit score without paying what he owes.

I'm not meaning to blow your mind. I guess I'm loyal to eBay because they've been very good to me over the years. Stealth isn't fraud in the US and I don't want to see it become any harder to run accounts. If enough sellers run off with what they owe there's no doubt stealth would become harder.. because that's the kind of thing that would encourage eBay to more carefully verify the people they're allowing to sell.

:noidea:

This isn't even an argument from my POV. If you use the service you're supposed to pay for it.

I haven't been active on this forum for many years but the same spurious arguments were being advocated years ago

They were no more relevant then than they are now

At least when GreenBean was active she would burst arguments such as yours

Pandoras_box 04-03-2020 02:30 PM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1082328)
There's no possible way he could have spared his credit score without paying what he owes.

I'm not meaning to blow your mind. I guess I'm loyal to eBay because they've been very good to me over the years. Stealth isn't fraud in the US and I don't want to see it become any harder to run accounts. If enough sellers run off with what they owe there's no doubt stealth would become harder.. because that's the kind of thing that would encourage eBay to more carefully verify the people they're allowing to sell.

:noidea:

This isn't even an argument from my POV. If you use the service you're supposed to pay for it.


Exactly. Stealth has been monumentally difficult in the US since late last year. I do not think eBay is just sitting there thinking "Well, what shall we throw money at now? Oh, stealthers!"

It would be more logical to consider that our actions may be forcing their hand.

Bigblackdog 04-03-2020 02:46 PM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1082334)
Exactly. Stealth has been monumentally difficult in the US since late last year. I do not think eBay is just sitting there thinking "Well, what shall we through money at now? Oh, stealthers!"

It would be more logical to consider that our actions may be forcing their hand.

I'm really sorry - stealthers are not as important to Ebay as you think they are - their normal security takes care of most issues - just look at the number who come here making the same fundamental mistakes

Telling them to buy the stealth guide or IP burger, while it may be good for the moderators, really does not do much for the people who really need help

Stealth is a continually evolving mindset - witness Etsy - no one really offers advise on Etsy do they? - and yet some of us have cracked that algorythm - because it is constantly changing

The fact that some stealthers choose to not pay Ebay fees has no effect, detrimental or otherwise, to the business of stealth

Please do not make the mistake of believing that as stealthers we are considered a threat to Ebay, Amazon or Etsy unless we are involved in activities that will bring bad publicity down on them - we are a mere irritation to be brushed aside

To believe anything elsel is to believe your own advertising

Bigblackdog 04-03-2020 03:07 PM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1082333)
Find me a Greenbean post where the word salad she posted actually had any meaning. What's your point? What argument are you referring to? This is really just common sense (and decency).

I never argued with GB about anything.. for the record. She was a goody-goody type of poster so I doubt she was advocating not paying your eBay fees.

GreenBean was a very good online friend of mine - I lived in Australia for a while - admitedly not Sydney - but I can state she understood the members of this forum all too well - and she understood the game we are playing

With the greatest of respect to you - she understood it a lot more than you do

agent006140 04-03-2020 03:38 PM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
Etsy takes its fees from your order,so it will always get paid.
Same with Paypal
Wonder when Ebay will do the same.
OR has it been doing it with MP?

phaz0rz 04-03-2020 05:31 PM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog (Post 1082339)
With the greatest of respect to you - she understood it a lot more than you do

What are you trying to say she understood better than me? You're being so vague that I don't understand what you're meaning. Greenbean was just a moderator who posted tons of vague cryptic statements which rarely helped anyone.. much in the same way rsot and agent do now.

Anyway, signing off, lol. Pretty sure OP is gone anyway.

Johnwammh 04-04-2020 12:08 AM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
if stealth. dont pay
if not stealth, pay
simple

HurricaneHuntr 10-15-2020 08:59 AM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnwammh (Post 1082431)
if stealth. dont pay
if not stealth, pay
simple

Not to necro this thread.. But, as long you haven't given ebay your SSN or EIN. All accounts are stealth. They can't put it on your credit report, or collections without proof it was you who opened the account and sold on the account. If they do, any collections wroth their weight, would remove it as soon as you sent in a dispute letter saying i don't recognize this.

They will email and call you a lot though.

agent006140 10-15-2020 10:00 AM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
most amount owed is not large,Ebay just write it off.

stich555 10-21-2020 06:26 AM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
Hello,

My own account was closed and after 3y I paid outstanding balance but all i can do is buy stuff. I got 0 limits and doesnt matter how high up CS chat i go all say same thing account is permanently closed and no one can change that.
Reason was thay due to personal issues I couldnt send out all parcels and negatives started flooding in. Eventually it was closed. But 3y later i see that even with low rate sellers are not closed, but ebay is not willing to reinstate my account.

Is there anything at all that can be done to open it up again?

djswho 10-28-2020 01:52 PM

Re: MC011, they want fees paid before they consider reinstatement
 
My question anybody can help to me remove mc011 my account normal / personal

can give instuction or similar ?
thanks


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