| | | leonid5000 | 06-17-2007 12:12 AM | Most buyers don't care, as longest you got privet feedback. Any way the feedback exchange forum can help people to have allot of feedback on their accounts. For me personally this will add about 5k a month to my profits. That is why im pushing towards feedback exchange behind ebay. Most people don't know how important that is to have feedbacks and what to do with them. |
| aspkin | 06-17-2007 02:12 PM | I've added the forum here. Give me ideas on how to improve on it and I'll tweak it. Hope that'll help you out. |
| leonid5000 | 06-18-2007 06:37 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Modee
(Post 4358)
The main issue I see is that after one person goes down, anyone who exchanged feedback with him will go down soon too, for shill bidding is what they will call it. | i disagree with that statement
This is not shill bidding. And this is not 1pany actions. I know ebay can care less.
Regarding shill bidding. I have iven tested one of my accounts. I have shill bid on my actions and then email ebay that this person is shill bidding. And you know what they told me in 4 days .. 'We dont see any evidence that this account involved in illegal activity" something like that. Thats because i think they have some king of rools . And ofcorse i know how to shill bid safely with different ip and other staff. But the problem with that is i have to have like 10 accounts to get feedback. I know that feedback exchange would work but people are so scared to do it at first because they are so new to it and they affrade to loose account. Personally loosing account with 0 feedback for me is not important. |
| JackNoMore | 06-18-2007 09:27 PM | I don't see how a bidder would be called out for the sins of one bad egg. As long as you're discreet about it and you don't make a habit of doing this for a lot of users, you're just a buyer getting a good deal right? I do like the idea of buying from a private auction, but the majority of those seem to be bid auctions (that go so high you almost know they're a bit shady or somethings up). |
| leonid5000 | 06-20-2007 12:11 AM | I violated "feedback manipulation" policy. Don't want to get suspended |
| anthonychan | 08-30-2007 02:18 PM | I violated "feedback manipulation" policy. Don't want to get suspended Hi Guys,
Having read posts that sellers are getting suspended for purchasing $0.01 products, but if you had just a normal buyers account and built feedbacks using this method wouldn't that work? Once you have 10+ feedbacks just upgrade to a sellers account?
Or are measures in place to prevent ANY new accounts from making quick feedbacks?
Cheers, |
| aspkin | 08-30-2007 02:20 PM | It's not a good idea to buy cheap items for feedback. You can buy and sell $5+ items, but if you buy too many in one day, or sale too many in one day, it could be a red flag. Time and time again people have been suspended for 'abusing eBay' in this way. |
| JackNoMore | 08-30-2007 02:21 PM | The only difference between a buyer and seller is the card you put on file. So yes you can do that, and many of us have, but if you go too fast it's a red flag. |
| DogFacedBoy | 08-30-2007 03:49 PM | How about buy a $5 item/day and sell $5/day?
In a week you'd have 14 if everybody left FB?
Hopefully you buy stuff you can use like for shipping,etc and sell stuff to moke a little money.
With any luck the cost would be a wash |
| anotherebayhater | 08-31-2007 06:26 PM | sooo I have been building FB and my question is this after 90 days the info on what you bought nolonger appears on ebays fb area. and after like a year the item numbers dissappear... so if someone was building fb for accts they were letting mature or age then if you waited to make it a seller acct for eather 90 days or longer after your LAST ⊗⊗⊗⊗ FB buy and bought a couple things befor making it a seller acct then ....... you can have ⊗⊗⊗⊗ FB but you have to wait longer to make it a seller acct if you want to start selling with a crap load of fb RIGHT? |
| DogFacedBoy | 08-31-2007 06:31 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by anotherebayhater
(Post 8997)
sooo I have been building FB and my question is this after 90 days the info on what you bought nolonger appears on ebays fb area. and after like a year the item numbers dissappear... so if someone was building fb for accts they were letting mature or age then if you waited to make it a seller acct for eather 90 days or longer after your LAST ⊗⊗⊗⊗ FB buy and bought a couple things befor making it a seller acct then ....... you can have ⊗⊗⊗⊗ FB but you have to wait longer to make it a seller acct if you want to start selling with a crap load of fb RIGHT? | I think if you sign up, but not to sell, buy a lot of cheapo stuff and then wait, like you said 90 days you might not raise any flags, but with so many sellers requiring X number of FB even if you are not selling with your acct, there is a motivation to manufacture FBs which might get your acct a closer look than others
just my $.02 |
| anotherebayhater | 08-31-2007 06:35 PM | well you could build slowly like 5 or 10 pennys a day for a week then let is sit. for the 90 or more then a couple real items then selllers acct. im gonna try it with a few and see what happens. |
| DogFacedBoy | 08-31-2007 06:37 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by anotherebayhater
(Post 9002)
well you could build slowly like 5 or 10 pennys a day for a week then let is sit. for the 90 or more then a couple real items then selllers acct. im gonna try it with a few and see what happens. | Sounds like a good idea which I will probably do a few accounts down the line. Right now I am only worrying about keeping one up and healthy. |
| leonid5000 | 09-01-2007 01:47 AM | buying $0.01 products is not a problem you just have to know how to do it |
| anotherebayhater | 09-01-2007 08:37 AM | would you like to share with the class or maybe PM me leonid???? :) |
| Chris Hanson | 09-01-2007 11:16 AM | Right Modee, I keep telling you guys it isnt "1" thing that gets you suspended its a combination of things.
So yeah, 1 person might can buy 5 or 6 penny auctions, but the next person may not be able to do that. Maybe the next person has a IP in a High Risk area etc......
So just remember it's a combination of things that you do that Ebay doesn't like that will get you the boot off Ebay |
| leonid5000 | 09-02-2007 05:13 AM | you just have to know the secret ;-) i charge 75$ for secrets now ;-) my free advice days are gone. It just i really need money for something.. so dont be mad ;-) iknowebay@yahoo.com my formula works for me every day and will work for any one. |
| imjustme | 09-02-2007 08:47 AM | i'm selling the secret too, but for only $50. |
| anotherebayhater | 09-02-2007 12:13 PM | $19.95 here.... |
| DogFacedBoy | 09-02-2007 04:25 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by anotherebayhater
(Post 9041)
would you like to share with the class or maybe PM me leonid???? :) | yes would you like to share or is this just another "shameless plug" for the $75 consulting fee?
:p |
| DogFacedBoy | 09-02-2007 04:38 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by leonid5000
(Post 9204)
you just have to know the secret ;-) i charge 75$ for secrets now ;-) my free advice days are gone. It just i really need money for something.. so dont be mad ;-) iknowebay@yahoo.com my formula works for me every day and will work for any one. | Makes me wonder if you are doing so well on ebay, why are you trolling here at $75 for help? Kind of like the Real Estate gurus that are billionaires from the RE business, but apparently can't make a go of it so they start selling all of their precious secrets.
There is a section for selling accounts, why don't you keep your solicitations and offers there. If you have nothing to OFFER here, I'm sure I speak for a lot of people in saying I'm getting sick of your non-input.
Pretty soon, you'll be like the kid who has the new treehouse but won't let any of the other kids play in it with him just to make them jealous and finds out when they all go back to school that he no longer has any friends left.
Just my $.02 worth...
...guess that leaves me $74.98 short :D |
| leonid5000 | 09-02-2007 05:26 PM | solicitations section? ooo thats cool i didnt see it..
thanks for the lecture about freands.
all of my ebay actions are posted so i have allot of time on my heands so i have desidet to make a little $ for a jet skis for my freands.. |
| Ballsack | 09-23-2007 10:21 PM | I violated "feedback manipulation" policy. Don't want to get suspended Has anyone bought feedback for a recipe or wallpaper, etc. knowing full well the person selling is doing this to exchange feedback? I left positive feedback for the guy and he files a Non paying bidder alert against me because he wants his penny! Sometimes I'll get ppl who don't reciprocate feedback for whatever reason but this is the first time this has ever happened. This guy isn't the brightest bulb. If I wanted to be an ******* I could just report him to ebay and get his account flagged. Just plain dumb. |
| Fancy | 09-23-2007 10:33 PM | Pay him the penny? Did you pay him his penny? I agree with you, it is silly for him to report you, but nonetheless, to be legal, pay him his penny! Actually, your circumstance is a good argument against ebay's assumption that penny auctions are "feedback farms." If you don't pay, you can still get negative feedback, if they don't deliver, they can get negative feedback! We could use your case in court against ebay!!!! |
| Ballsack | 09-23-2007 10:49 PM | No because it serves no purpose. If I pay him his penny he'll get charged 50 cents for the transaction. Why would any of these idiots want payment from people anyway is beyond me. If you sell 100 of these auctions that's 50 dollars paypal just collected from you for NOTHING! |
| JackNoMore | 09-24-2007 01:24 PM | No but I did buy something once (not a penny) and then the guy filed a mutual agreement not to sell. Ebay saw that for some reason and feedback was removed. I actually wanted the item even. Needless to say, I never accepted his agreement. Thought about leaving negative but it couldn't be done at that point. |
| ebaykilla | 09-24-2007 02:21 PM | i always buy physical goods like baseball cards, art supplies & coins under .99 cents listed with free shipping when my feedback needs a "boost" and I have no issues at all |
| JackNoMore | 09-24-2007 02:39 PM | I've done the same, but supposedly their "model" hits anything under a dollar. It's possible that we slipped through the cracks. I'm sure the less fraud attractant items are given a little leeway. But I wouldn't push it.
ebaykilla--what do you use to find those ultra cheap items? Unfortunately ebay doesn't have an "all in one from cheapest to priciest" search option. Do you just go looking in categories randomly or do you have another way of doing it?
It's hard to find items I can actually use. I don't prescribe to the "just because it's cheap" ideal. I did once. Ended up with a ton of basically junk. Throwing money away. Now I'll spend a little more and find something I can actually USE. Occasionally, though, that something will be cheap. And in the above case, it didn't matter. I have my suspicions it was due to a rival competitor. |
| ebaykilla | 09-25-2007 03:13 PM | I go to the catergory (Baseball cards, Stamps, Books, Art, Books or Music) click items ending in less than 3 days, click items with free shipping, and click items with paypal. Then I list items from lowest price to highest price in the catergory...It works well for me. I usually just buy about 20 items at a time and get 20 positives for under $20. |
| Ballsack | 10-03-2007 12:23 PM | I just got a unpaid item strike on a penny auction. So apparently this guy wanted to "punish" me rather than doing a mutual withdraw. I guess I'm going to have to report him to ebay for posting a penny auction. Dumb just dumb. |
| imjustme | 10-03-2007 12:33 PM | He didn't want to punish you, he wanted to save his account just like you should. If you can't afford to pay a penny, what are you doing on eBay? Do you really care if he's charged 50 cents?
Let me tell you the truth why he wants to be paid. To make it a legit transaction. Penny farms get shut down because people like you don't pay, making it a clear feedback exchange.
Pay the freaking penny and be done with it. Or go ahead and report him for posting a penny auction and then get suspended yourself for buying from penny auctions.
And lets think here for a second. You're going to report him for doing penny auctions and you haven't paid him? What basis are you reporting him on? That you need to pay him a penny and you didn't want to because you just wanted the feedback? :D
Dumb and dumber. :rolleyes: |
| ebaykilla | 10-03-2007 12:34 PM | Pay the friggin penny! I always do... |
| Ballsack | 10-03-2007 12:48 PM | Yeah I'll pay him his penny. Maybe I'll send him 6 or 7 seperate pennies payments. lol. |
| SONNY BOY | 12-08-2007 07:32 PM | I violated "feedback manipulation" policy. Don't want to get suspended I need feedback and am willing to buy inexpensive (under $1) ebooks and such to any seller who promises to give positive feedback in a timely fashion. pm me if you can accommodate. i will also provide buyer feedback as well.
I'm not sure if this type of thread is against the rules. If it is, please let me know and I will immediately delete it. |
| imjustme | 12-09-2007 08:20 AM | I predict you'll come back in a few days crying that your account has been suspended for buying feedback or running penny auctions. |
| sycore | 12-09-2007 10:27 AM | Just go buy and sell a few kids trading cards. It will cost you no more then $10-$20 and you will have legit feedback. |
| SONNY BOY | 12-09-2007 06:33 PM | i don't run penny auctions and have nothing for sale right now. im building these accounts for future use. buying ebooks is totally legit. i pay for them and leave feedback. |
| aspkin | 12-09-2007 08:35 PM | EBay knows the difference between just buying eBooks and buying feedback. Trust me on this.
Buying feedback is a good way to get your account suspended fast. |
| twdell | 02-11-2008 12:18 PM | "buying feedback" does anyone have a good way to buy cheap items to get some feedback, but using a paypal account that is not linked to your new ebay account? i'm not sure if a seller would be okay with me asking if i could just send the money as goods or service to him through paypal. |
| super stealth | 02-17-2008 10:06 AM | Pay by money order | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:01 PM. | |
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