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with penny auctions getting removed we should set up like 1-2$ buy it now auctions with a description of an acutal item so the listing will not get removed. but the buyer will only have to pay for the sellers fee of like 25cents or whatever it is.

What is needed is another forum. Invitation Only for trusted members. Aspkin could start by secretly assigning several trusted members to perform the initial invites. It shouldn't even be public knowledge that this "secret forum" exists until one is invited. Not only could feedback exchange be done, but other information could be exchanged without fear that ebay spies are lurking.

I dont know if this is necessary. I personally wouldnt want to give my ebay screen names out just for privacy reasons. Its not that hard building feedback i just started building my feedback slowly on one of my accounts im going to use this week and its at 15 positives no problem. It only takes a little effort.

how about posting item numbers of random sellers selling the 1c auctions for buy it nows that have not been removed yet.

HI:
This would definitely jump start our accts--to get up to the 5, 10 and then 25 mark rather quickly...

Question I have is this:

A.) on a brand new acct--you cant do a buy it now yet.. So one would have to wait out the 7 days--Correct?
B.) You cannot list alot initially--so it will still take 2-3 weeks to build up--correct?
(If you list 3 items week1, get 3 fb, then list 5 items, week 2-get another 5 fb, then 10 items week 3, thats 18fb, )--so i guess 4wks, to get to 25...??

Would you not have to list items that are Drab items, and not really want them to sell, thus- no one else will bid?

** To have the magic number of "25" fb obtained --- I guess this would have to be done via pm..
And I guess for security--we would want to do this on 2 or 3 accts--keeping track of whom we give the item numbers to?
>. IF the acct gets canned, then we can make note of who we gave info to---And 2nd time around, it would narrow down the users we gave info--
If same folks are constantly going down because of giving info to the same users--then we could assume those users are "turn coats"??

I personally say it could work-but we would all have to keep notes and be careful.. :)

Problem that I see with doing this is that any carelessness could see an account being lost.It seems a big leap to do this.

one little mistake, not only will one account go down, alot of accounts will also go down like a domino effect, don't rush into this one guys, think about it carefully.

any try this website: eBuyer Feedback - Terms of Service ?

using new ebay stupid feedback policies at your favor!
 

hey kids.. dont pay $ 0 for FB!

Use the new ebay rules to your favor.
BUY FROM YOU!

grow strong all your babies w/0$ in feedback investment (only insertion fees, but what the heck? - low items)

Have all your babies account buy from the strongest accs 1 item a week only. Exchange ⊗⊗⊗⊗ emails through ebay system between you and yourself contacting seller to ask if you could pay you ;-) by money order. OF COURSE! -you will reply-

allow 3 days, give + to your buyer (you)
allow 5 days, give + to you seller (yes, you again)

repeat same procedure every week

add to the circle more babies account

using this system

if you have 5 startup accs u will have 20fb by the end of month on main account and 4 on babies accs.

If you want to make it heavier exhange buyers purchases between all accs. This way the 5 accs will have 20fb in 1 month. Kinda linky, but what the heck, life's too short: if they are gone they are gone..

Feedback harvesting has begun! enjoy :)#

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you have to make sure you clear all cookies, and watch out for flash cookies.

i made a post about getting feedback with your on accounts. i think my way is the best. list items with pick up only as shipping (great idea since in AUS and UK you can't do bank transfers anymore). good thing about this is that its not like $1 or $2 dollar items. usually pick items are $20+ so ebay won't be suspicions.

Need help with feedback removal - suspension my only option?
 

Basically I received a neg from some tart because their item got lost in the post, and I refunded.

Now, in an email I was sent, it was basically a threat for feedback. After about 3 days they said if the item doesn't turn up tomorrow, I'l neg you. I explained that the postage times could often be much longer, and I was willing to refund.

Had no reply after 2 days, so refunded anyway. Promptly received a neg after that.

Now, I sent powerseller support an email saying can I get my neg removed under feedback extortions, as I was threatened with a neg. His answer was no, I can only get it removed in an UPI strike was given, or he got suspended. How come the feedback rules no longer apply here??

Now I think my only solution to get this removed, is to get this devious skunk suspended. He left me a very unjustified neg, staining my reputation - and I think he should pay.

Any thoughts on that idea?

**MrJosh**Read his story. May well be a best seller! Great plot:rolleyes:

the answer to establishing quick feedback
 

GMAIL EMAIL ADDRESS WITH GIGS OF SPACE 1 PENNY HURRY!!!


take a look and get on them soon, this is basicly the new ebooks

Suspended for feedback manipulation!
 

I listed a BIN item How to make money on myspace. Because of the recent neutral=negative rules my feedback had dropped but I had no idea about ebays policy of suspending accounts I am a powerseller or was i dont know over 1500 positive feedback until they removed it now im down to 1100 they removed stuff i bought over a year ago I called they told me any further calls would result in a permanent suspension I wrote to Kip Knight he sent everything to the head of T&S and CS and they wrote me a response

"Dear ************,

Thank you for your response. As stated in the prior email, I understand
it wasn't your intention to violate policy, and that you did not
intentionally inflate your feedback. However, it did occur, and it is in
violation of policy, whether intentional or not.

Please know that I have thoroughly reviewed your account and listing
removals. While you state you were shipping the item on a cd-rom, that
information was not clear within the listing. I found text such as:

"The winning Bidder will get my concise, to-the-point, detail-filled (no
fluff) report delivered immediately by e-mail."

"POSITIVE FEEDBACK WILL BE LEFT ONCE IT IS RECEIVED."

"WE LL LEAVE OUR FEEDBACK AFTER YOURS."

I understand your concern as you state that you did not receive any
information on the changes we made to our Digitally Delivered Goods
policy. Changes to the policy were announced Mar-24-08 by Brian Burke,
and the information was posted on the Announcements Boards. It was also
found in the General eBay Announcement area of every member's My
Messages, below the actual message inbox.

When items are removed from the site we will send members an email
explaining the situation. The email also states that repeat violations
may result in forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings, removal of all
listings, limits on account privileges, and account suspension.

At this time it has been determined that your account will remain
suspended for the 30 day period. Even though you have great feedback and
customer service, I am unable to allow you to bypass these consequences,
and yet enforce them on other members who have violated the same
policies.

When you apply for reinstatement I will review your account information
to see if I am able to put the listings that were removed into your
Unsold items folder.

I understand your frustration regarding this matter and apologize for
the inconvenience it caused you.

Sincerely,

Terri
Office of the President"

I dont know what the hell to do Ive been an honest ebay member I had 1400 items in my store and all that is gone and with a suspension untill july 20th I wont be able to repair my feedback to stay a powerseller I dont wanna do any type of stealth I shouldnt have to I just want to know how the hell they could do that.


Also what the hell is ebay thinking the very definition of neutral in any dictionary means its not positive or negative how could they change the very definition of a word I know im just ranting but what the hell anybody have any other email address at ebay i could forward my case to ebay is my only source of income and I will loose my ass house everything if they continue this suspension and worse if they never give me back my account

consider yourself lucky
 

consider yourself lucky that at least the answer they gave is relevant to your question. most of the time their answer has nothing to do with what you asked.

this reply was after 50+ calls to cs ts and powerseller support and many many many other emails and calls to head execs of ebay

Apply for reinstatement; keep your head down, follow their rules and you may be able to keep your account going.

aspkin i have to wait 30 days before I can apply for that then on top of applying all of the items i took over a year listing are deleted what do I do about that

Im about to loose my House and everything I have over this my Light Bill alone is over 398 dollars what am I supposed to do in the meantime this is all i have been doing over a year now

Make a new account and keep back ups of your listings?

hey relax i know its not easy but ebay is like that .. consider it a bussiness too risky anyway.. i would also advise you to act on aspkins advice... 2ndly no matter ur account stays or you never got a chance to see it again make backups.. i have been in similar situation before .. like u i m also a full time ebayer.. i have sustained myself now by spreading the listings.. the worst mistake u can do on ebay is to make one and only account .. if u have 1400+ listings.. spread them out on average of 100 per account.. powerseller is not of any benefit.. i m also a powerseller.. but on other accounts i just ignore powerseller invitation.. within 30 days.. make atleast 10 other accounts for now.. i dont see u can sell much within these 30 days as your accounts will be new and u can risk losing them if u list too much or maybe lose them just by listing 10+ items.. u never know its ebay...

from the email they sent u i see light that your account can be restored.. one more thing if u make other accounts make sure it is no way linked to the previous account coz if u get caught making other accounts while original suspension is in place they will never resinstate your actual account...

i really hope that you get good outcome..

WELCOME TO THE CLUB !!

I had a 0 feedback account, with 0 items sold and 0 items bought, suspended about 4 months ago with the 'Feedback Manipulation' reason. Beat that :D

People doing this are just asking to be suspended. Buying feedback for nothing is over.

lolz thats just too much imjustme lolz

Lately I've been building feedback by finding charities which
accept donations via the mail, buying items, and having them
sent to the charity's address.
Builds feedback, and good karma.. :p

for those who want to buy "feedback", Ebay -> Everything else -> Other.
There always have "$0.01 cent" auctions. I'm selling in there too. If you see something like "coupon", it's me. I'll leave feedback asa you guys complete the transaction.

Yeah but what ap besides turbo lister allows you to make backups with all your pics and everything that can be reloaded to ebay after a suspension ?

Almost same thing happened to me. How did you not know about the digital delivery ban? Where you really shipping CDs or were you lying and it was digital download, since all it takes is for a buyer to report you to ebay about lying about shippping CD and you get killed.

I made up to 3k from digital items per month and was devastated when they banned digital items and suspended one of my 2 accounts. Consider yourself lucky that you only got killed for 30 days. What I've learned from this is to never rely on 1 source of income, especially ebay since ebay controls your account, not you.

I always copied my listings from html editor and saved it to word just incase.

Wait 30 days and do things right, or if you can't wait make a new ⊗⊗⊗⊗ account. However, make sure you follow the steathbook or your new account will get linked to your old one and you'll never get that old account back.

Good luck

yeah but copying them to html editor still requires manually relisting 1400 items it took me a year the first time how long do you think that will take plus the extra time listing when after your done copying them to dreamweaver and the like im talking about a simple tool that allows you to download allllllll of your items and then relist them on ebay as if they were never deleted and back all them up daily as sales will take up inventory and you dont want to relist previously sold items

and yes they were actually on cd i printed labels and used a cd stomper and mailed them with a stamp anywhere in the us

I know its posted but had to add FEEDBACK MANIPULATION MUST READ
 

Also how could I not be making a profit when the listing cost me 3 cents and
I sold 60 of them for 1 dollar add that up and tell me the profit margin

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hedrick [mailto:magicmikeh@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:03 PM
To: 'Office of the President'
Subject: RE: Fw: Ebay Item # 130227908269 (KMM294512175V82535L0KM)

The problem with this is I was not selling an item to inflate my feedback
score I have over 1100 positive feedback from many many items that I sell I
was selling an informational product on a cd-rom that was delivered through
the mail via usps in a padded media envelope I was not violating any policy
and feel this is a bad decision all of these emails will be posted publicly
I will forfeit my account and will never purchase or sell again on ebay if
this is your decision. I make my living on ebay I am not a hobby seller and
for all my work instead of being rewarded I am punished this is a bad
decision on your behalf and I really hope you give me a chance to correct
this. It isn't the 30 day suspension that I care about its that all of the
1400 items I had listed and worked over a year photographing describing and
listing are deleted and will never be returned and none of these were even
in question of violating eBay's policies and that is unfair unjust and wrong
please reconsider this decision I am an honest seller and a good customer
please make this right

-----Original Message-----
From: Office of the President [mailto:csme@ebay.com]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:49 PM
To: Michael Hedrick
Subject: Re: Fw: Ebay Item # 130227908269 (KMM294512175V82535L0KM)

Dear Michael Hedrick,

Thank you for your recent email to Kip Knight in regard to your
apathy5611 account which is currently suspended. He has asked that I
review your email and respond on his behalf.

Please know that I have reviewed your account, listing removals, and
recent correspondence with our Trust and Safety Department. I can verify
that correct action was taken, and would like to explain further.

Your account was suspended on Jun-20-08 for a period of 30 days for
violating the Feedback Manipulation policy. Feedback Manipulation occurs
when Feedback left or received has been artificially inflated, falsely
enhancing a member's reputation rather than providing information on
genuine buying and selling experiences. While I understand that the
policy has only recently changed and become very strict, it has always
been the policy that feedback inflation is not allowed.

We feel that members selling and buying low-priced, "non-physical" items
(such as eBooks, recipes, and desktop wallpapers) with low or no
shipping and handling charges artificially increases their Feedback
Score. By setting an extremely low Buy It Now price, they have
demonstrated that they are not trying to make a profit from the sale of
the item. Accordingly, we have determined that the purpose of the
listing is to inflate the members Feedback Score artificially. This is a
violation of eBay policy.

Upon review of your account I found that a large number of your feedback
were received from the sale or purchase of intangible, digitally
delivered items priced at $1.00 or lower. I also found that even after
the policy was changed prohibiting the sale of items with digital
delivery, you continued to list in violation of policy.

Feedback received from these sorts of items can be quickly built up and
is usually a precursor to committing fraud on our site. I realize that
was not your intention in selling those items, however the listings
themselves provide a means for other less scrupulous accounts to quickly
establish a seemingly legitimate Feedback record.

As you know, Feedback is the primary method of establishing trust on
eBay. Just as each of our members are protective over their Feedback
records, eBay is protective over the intended functionality of the
system itself. Sellers that inflate their Feedback score by buying or
selling digital ebooks, recipes, wallpapers, etc. create a false
representation to future buyers when the same seller starts to sell
higher dollar physical items. Similarly, sellers that list items that
can be used to inflate Feedback inadvertently enable other accounts to
commit Feedback Manipulation, which harms the overall marketplace.

While this was not the response you were hoping for, I hope this
information has been helpful. Your account will be eligible for
reinstatement after Jul-20-08. For reinstatement information, please
refer to the email that you received alerting you to the suspension.

I would like to ask that you refrain from calling PowerSeller support as
you do not have phone support while suspended. Further calls may
permanently jeopardize your account status.

I understand your frustration regarding this matter and apologize for
the inconvenience it caused you.

Sincerely,

Terri
Office of the President

Yeah :) :) :)

Dude just leave it alone. They dont' care about your 1400 listings that took you 1 year to list. You can cry all you want, nothing will happen. Do they care that I lost 3k worth of income per month? Just wait the 30 days and pry for reinstatement. If it fails, make ⊗⊗⊗⊗ accounts.

jUST AN uPDATE FROM FLEEBAY SUSPENSION
 

Office of the President to me
show details 1:19 PM (4 hours ago) Reply


Dear Michael Hedrick,

Thank you for your recent email to John Donahoe in regard to your
apathy5611 account which is currently suspended. He has asked that I
review your email and respond on his behalf.

Michael, please know that your account has been reviewed multiple times.
I understand that it was never your intention to violate policy, and
that you did not intentionally inflate your feedback. However, it did
occur, and you did violate policy, whether intentional or not.

Please know that your appeal has reached the highest possible level, and
it has been determined that your account will not be reinstated at this
time.

However, your account is eligible for reinstatement after Jul-20-08. For
reinstatement information, please refer to the email that you received
alerting you to the suspension.

I understand your frustration regarding this matter and apologize for
the inconvenience it caused you.

Sincerely,

Terri
Office of the President


Reply from Muah

And I will continue to email and state my case just as all your sellers did during ebay live and I will post this agregious attack agaisnt me on every forum there is I have already been dug several times so my posts are now google searchable which should hopefully affedct any of your new subscribers and maybe they will think twice about going with a company like this I would understand if it was a 7 day suspension so that it could be corrected or my 1400+ items were placed in my unsold items category but deleting 1400 items not giving me a penny for the cancelation and deny my requests for reinstatement over and over again this will not go unnoticed and if just one other person thinking of selling thier good on ebay changes there mind then i have done my job your system is unfair unjust and just plain stupid I have been selling a long time and have made a few mistakes but to take away everything my livlihood just for one simple typo mistake that is agregious and deflamaatory and trust me if i am not reinstated you will never here the end of me my youube video has over 50,000 hits in the first day everyone will know of this EVERYONE



Original Message Follows:
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From: Michael Hedrick [mailto:magicmikeh@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:04 PM
To: Donahoe, John
Subject: FW: IV%MM0001 FB2 NOTICE: eBay Registration Suspension -
Feedback Manipulation - magicmikeh@gmail.com [#US 05021T A11 &MC034 ?00
] (KMM295110941V27495L0KM)
Sir I have read your comments on the fact that ebay is a flea market and
there's changes that need to be made but running sellers like me off for
poor excuses is no way to do business I please ask you to use your power
to
lift my suspension I have a family to support and have been a loyal
customer
since 2001 I never intended to make the mistake I made it wont happen
again
please find it in your heart to look into this matter and at least
consider
reinstating my account Im in jeopardy of loosing my house I understand
my
mistake and it wont happen again please find it in you heart to help me
im
one of the only true honest ebayers out there I had over 1400 items
listed
and now they are all gone over one type in my description please sir
this is
my livelihood I have a 3 month old and I don't want to loose everything
I
have done over the past year over one simple mistake that was made only
1
month after a policy change give me a break this time and I gurantee you
will never see my name again thanks in advanced Michael Hedrick
P.S. I could cheat create a new account under a false identity there's
many
ways to do it sites devoted to it but im an honest business man the type
you
want to keep around give me a chance to prove that hell put me on
probation
whatever it takes but please help me lastly if you do decide to help
could you please put my canceled items in my unsold folder so I could
relist
and get my business going before I wind up buried in bills thank you for
even reading this and I really hope you can find it in your heart to
give me
a second chance everybody does deserve one I made one mistake and my
whole
family will suffer because of it ebay member Apathy5611
magicmikeh@gmail.com Michael Hedrick
And again thanks in advanced and I really hope you can see this for what
It
is a simple mistake that can be corrected
-----Original Message-----
From: eBay Customer Support [mailto:rswebhelp@ebay.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:44 PM
To: Michael Hedrick
Subject: Re: IV%MM0001 FB2 NOTICE: eBay Registration Suspension -
Feedback
Manipulation - magicmikeh@gmail.com [#US 05021T A11 &MC034 ?00 ]
(KMM295110941V27495L0KM)
Dear apathy5611,
Thank you for writing eBay in regard to your qurstion about reinstating
your account.
Please note that in order for your account to become eligible for
reinstatment the following two criteria must be met; (1) 30 days must
have passed from the time of suspension, (2) a conditions for
reinstatement request must be completed and returned with your
suspension appeal. You may request a CFR by replying to this email.
Please note that any seller fees due to eBay will immediately become due
and payable. eBay will charge any amounts you have not previously
disputed to the billing method currently on file.
If you wish to be considered for conditional reinstatement, please write
again on or after July 20 to request a CFR. We will be happy to review
your account at that time.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Mycroft
eBay Customer Support
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Manipulation - magicmikeh@gmail.com
Message: I did not manipulate anyone but your just doing your jobs right
putting the small business man out of work just like wal-mart its cool
whatever can you send me the CFR so I can have it if I attempt to
return to ebay
FB2 NOTICE: eBay Registration Suspension - Feedback Manipulation -
magicmikeh@gmail.com
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FB2 NOTICE: eBay Registration Suspension - Feedback Manipulation -
magicmikeh@gmail.com
Dear apathy5611 (magicmikeh@gmail.com),
We regret to inform you that your eBay account has been temporarily
suspended for a term of 30 days due to the violation of our site policy
below:
* Feedback Manipulation - Feedback left or received where the feedback?s
primary value is to artificially enhance a member?s reputation rather
than provide commentary on genuine transactional experience is not
permitted. Taking actions that may unduly influence whether a member
leaves or withdraws Feedback is also prohibited. In addition, taking
actions that limits or attempts to influence the type of Feedback left
are also not permitted.

This action has been taken as a result of the following:

<<copy of item numbers OR email with headers or Feedback comment or text
from listing>>

The above was found to be in violation of the following feedback policy:

<<name of specific policy violated , ie. Feedback Manipulation -
Artificial Inflation of Feedback, Feedback Manipulation - Feedback
Extorition, Feedback Manipulation - Feedback Solicitation, etc.>>
More information regarding eBay's rules for leaving feedback can be
found at:

Feedback Manipulation
Due to the suspension of this account, please be advised you are
prohibited from using eBay in any way. This prohibition includes the use
of any existing account, or the registering of a new account.
Please note that in order for your account to become eligible for
reinstatment the following two criteria must be met; (1) 30 days must
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Please note that any seller fees due to eBay will immediately become due
and payable. eBay will charge any amounts you have not previously
disputed to the billing method currently on file.
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HI;;;
GUY_-
If it were "me"--- I'd take the 30 day--and move on--

MY GOSH-- I got a "LIFER"'Ban for less than that....

(You cause too many waves--- that jul 20, "08" date--maybe jul20,,2030...LOL

just be carefull--Im sharing with you, as I have empathy for everyone.. :)

p.s. just an FYI---I would "DELETE" your personal info on this post---never know whos watching....

yeah thats what im afraid of too but I think they already plan on givin me a ifer anyways and have a trial lawyer on hand for damages and a civil suit in that event

:confused:

Buy the eBay Stealth eBook and go ahead and make some new accounts in the meantime while you wait for your account to be reinstated...

Micheal, next time you post emails on here, it may be a good idea to blank out your real name and email address etc.

Yet you still have not learned that bitching and moaning will get you nowhere fast with ebay. I'd have to say, if I were them, I'd indefinitely suspend you just because I grow tired of your moaning.