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ohh ok
i got you
but not alot of people buy vcd's these days
and even if you do sell some vcd how much could they possibly go for?
$1? $5 max?

Yeah. But you can play the VCD through most PCs. The price is great in HK.... about US$3.
Good action movies, terrible sound track... what more do you want?

Thats nothing. I got a LEXUS vero for listing my used Lexus RX300. Once you buy a legit product, it should be your to buy and sell at will. All this crap started with companies that think they can take your money for a product and illegal control the resale of the used product. A clear anti-trust violation.

SYCOREISBACK: Now I have asked this question many times... or said this. It would appear that one cannot Sell their own property... at least on ebay. AND who exactly can turn you in???? Anyone? any Lexus owner? any Lexus dealership? the Lexus company? {whoever they are}. This does not have an end to it. And Ebay states quite clearly in their stupid turorials that if you have the receipt and show that in the ad... THEN THAT is nor VERO??? Am I correct??

i reakon i have a lot of luck when it comes to Violations. on my suspended ebay account i had like 10 or more Violations. most of them were like VERO and avoiding ebay fees. and on my new ebay account i had about 4-6 Violations about VERO lols. but i reakon if i get 1 or 2 more Violations i get suspended

wow thats alot, one of my accs got suspended for only 3 Vero violations. that was ages ago though when i was a noob

A lexus? You know what? I'm going to go on ebay and VERO some ones house up for sale. I would recommend others do the same. You'll really hurt ebay sales this way. Imagine you could disable the entire real estate section by veroing every listing. haha. After that you move onto vehicles, boats, etc. Forget boycotting just report everything on the site, lol.

Vero...
 

Having listings removed is a pain, that is why I try to stick with Buy-It-Now items with Pay Now when they buy. Less hasstles.

Once, a year ago, I found someone using copy that I had on my website. It was word for word. I sent in the vero and it was removed. I remember being so mad because I had paid a professional writer to write the copy.

Now, I have the joy of being veroed due to a number of reasons. I generally fly under the radar because I use the buyitnow auctions but hopefully there will not be many times that my auctions don't sell in 3 days, that is the average time it takes for the vero to kick in.

Doug

yes selling VERO items with an amature listings design is a good idea.. the pictures dont really matter. just take a normal picture with the product on a table or something.. because ebay CANT track pictures from other suspended users if you host off a harddrive or something

HI: Yes, def. good idea--I also have my kids hold my items, and they describe what it is to me and i type---- That way--its REALLY amateur.. :)

OR--maybe its Ebay Employees that are Reporting??
I have my own Vero on certain items-- I reported 1 item-- 4 times--still not taken down--I reported again from my 11 yr old acct--guess what--still left up..

I started to think maybe your tenure would allow an item to be taken down when you are older?? NO, didnt work--the guy had a ⊗⊗⊗⊗, and it went to sale..

He had around 900 fb, at 96%, and his tenure was only 2 yrs..go figure??

LOL! Sorry, but I thought that sounded so funny! :p

I've come with a random idea just at the moment.
What if one'd make his listing in photoshop, then save it as a JPG, and the just put the pic (and only it) as the description ? is it authorized ? maybe it would mess up with any "specific keyword search robot"

That's a really good idea chocobulle! Has anyone tried it before?

Someone please explain vero to me
 

Are they the eBay Nazi's? What is their purpose?

Hi, Cat: Welcome!

Well-think of Vero as like the OWNER of the bRAND nAMES--
like Kelloggs Frosted Flakes, Goodyear Tire Company, McDonalds..They all have their NAMES patented---you gotta get permission to use it..
So-when selling in ebay- those OWNERs--tell ebay if we are selling stuff they think is ⊗⊗⊗⊗..
VERO=Verified Rights Owners... Theres a whole list of them in ebay--Tiffany, Rolex, etc..

P>S. Its the #1 reason for suspensions

So what if I am selling a Gucci handbag that is really a Gucci handbag but I've used it for a couple of years. Does that mean Gucci gets a case of the meanies and let's eBay come after me?

Why doesn't eBay send one warning e-mail to sellers before suspending them? It seems to me that with most sellers it would only take one warning to remove an item. They have gotten to be very punitive lately.

Well--they suggest taking a photo with your sales recipt in the photo for the handbag--
THEN, writing the ad up as neatly as possible--offering FULL refund if not happy-stating 100% authentic, GUARANTEED--offering the listing with pp..etc..

This all started to get hot and heavy after Tiffany filed suit against ebay last year..

OMG - who keeps receipts for everything?

I currently have a Fender guitar for sale but I don't have a receipt for it because it was purchased in 1962 by my father.

There are millions of items for sale on eBay right now where people list the name brand and they don't get slapped on the hand by eBay. How do they choose which ones to go after?

Sometimes they do. VERO owners are given sweeping powers to take down your auctions without any ebay involvement whatsoever,

They sign something like "I agree to do my best, to do my duty, to God and my country to take down only auctions that are to the best of my knowledge infringing or potentially infringing so help me God"

If your account scorecard is on the wrong side of the tracks the account is gone without a warning. Just because some VERO member on the 58th floor thought it might be potentially infringing or your account has a good chance of potentially infringing in the future.


VERO warning

MC019 eBay Listing Removed: Copyright Violation - Unauthorized Item ( xxxxxxxxx)

Dear unlucky(unlucky@yahoo.com),

You recently listed the following auction-style listing:

xxxxxxxxx - blah blah blah


The listing was removed because it violated eBay policy. We notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has been canceled.

The rights owner, Smarty Pants Inc., notified eBay that this listing violates intellectual property rights. When eBay receives a report of this type of violation, we remove the listing to comply with the law.



VERO suspension


INS NOTICE: Indefinite VeRO: eBay Registration Suspension - unlucky@yahoo.com

**PLEASE READ THIS IMPORTANT EMAIL REGARDING YOUR ACCOUNT**

Dear unlucky (unlucky@yahoo.com):

We regret to inform you that your account has been suspended indefinitely for repeatedly listing potentially infringing items on eBay.

If you register any new accounts, they will be suspended as well.

If you believe we have made an error and have supporting information you would like us to review, please contact us by responding to this message.

Regards,

The eBay Community Watch Team

Doesn't seem fair!!!!

Is that any way to run a business?

HI: Ebay is not fair--at all.. 9thats why we're all here!!) :)
Anyhow-- sometimes its random, and sometimes i think competitors turn us in, and sometimes "I think" that its ebay employees or paypal employees that want to sell the same product--so they knock out the competition, to clear the way for their sales??

Cat, which Fender were you selling? Those axes make sweet music. I would not waste that
on ebay though, in case you got scammed.

I sold 2 pairs of Nike Air Jordans from 1996 and 1997. They were never worn, shoe laces never tied. I still had the receipts to them. I even too a pic of the receipts. I didn't know about vero but I guess the pics of the receipts are what helped them not get pulled.

Look on eBay for a 1962 Fender Jazz Bass.

I have had a HUGE interest from Europe. I guess the Euro gets more bang for the buck. So far I have 18 bidders and 50 watchers and lots of them wanting to pay the reserve if I close the auction now. Must be a good deal huh? I think the history behind it may be what the attraction is.

A local music store saw it and wants to see it today so I told them they could but they would still have to bid on it.

I died. Man, is that one sweet baby. That would go well with my Rickenbacker
4001 bass and the others. Money, I need money. :)

You could realize at least US$5500 or more if you manage to sell to the European market. :)

Yep - I know. That's why I'm leaving it up until the end. My life would be easier if someone from the states wins this beauty. I'm not looking forward to shipping it overseas.

This guitar belonged to my father who was in the touring band for Lloyd Price (look it up) the band was called Eddie Seacrist and the Rolling Rockets or sometimes spelled Eddy). Played American Bandstand, The Apollo Theatre, opened for Ray Charles and Bobby Darin and had their own TV show on Channel 8 out of Oakhill WV. We're talking rock-a-billy days., I looked up the US Copyright and saw my dads name on the songs they recorded. I have a couple of them digitally I can send to you if you like. You would have to send me your e-mail address. If you like 50's rocka-a-billy they are not bad. I would love for someone to want to record these. I could use the money.

Just a side line thought about VERO--you know sometimes its not only that we use the actual brand name--IF ITS our stuff, like the original OP of this thread--

POssibly, he used a term/phrase that is patented... Let me give you an example:

I listed a watch- a non-Vero at $29--BUT, I described the watches case as a "tank style" case--It was taken down..

Who knows why?

Because--Cartier has the name/phrase "TANK" copyrighted... so you cannot use it... :)
(Just alitlle trivia)

List Of Non-Vero Items
 

I need a list of non-Vero items

Welcome to 1984. Reminds me of a friend that was arrested, jailed and charged with rape because his drunken ex claimed in a 911 call he raped her and wanted revenge for him breaking up with her.

I am just a simple, uneducated hillbilly from the backwoods of Texas. Help me out a little here. I never went to law school and have zero use for lawyers. My life was built on trust and my word.

Are you saying in other words if I list a GI Joe tank from the 60s I am at risk of VERO? Maybe I would also be at risk of Hasbro because I violated intellectual rights by using the name GI Joe in my title.

So if we follow that very same logic if I list a "Chevrolet Corvette" on Ebay Motors I am at risk of intellectual rights violation from Chevy?

At this rate I will soon need permission/license to go to the bathroom. And a tax will be imposed on every flush.

Perhaps soon my local community newspaper will not accept ads for my "tank style" watch case or my "chevrolet corvette" since obviously I am an evil person that violates intellectual property rights/laws. http://i26.tinypic.com/24oc406.gif



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I see Cartier eyeglasses frames on eBay by the dozens. I don't think these people are official Cartier people. What's up with that?

Actually when you think about it there may not be anything that you can sell on eBay because almost everything has a brand or name brand on it. I don't understand how they can get some people on this and not others. You know, Levi jeans, Ralph Lauren Polo shirt, Prada shoes, etc., etc., etc.

I had a Bottega Veneta handbag (real) taken down for using the term "like new". I was shocked that ebay bothered to tell me why they took it down. I changed the wording to gently worn and relisted with no problems. Well, till they suspended me for BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN tickets a million years ago! Get over it ebay!

There's for some time now been an option to report people who have their description, terms, etc. in a picture instead of text. Your listings could get taken down for that, though I suspect it would be less often than for VERO.

Easy. Anything that doesn't have a brand name associated with it.

Vero ?
 

Hi,
This isn't really important, but just looking for opinions.
I recently sold a fountain pen, which is a replica
of a montblanc.
I never made any reference to montblanc in the listing,
I just visually described the item, though the montblanc
logo was visible in the photo, I didn't use the montblanc category.
The item sold successfully, for more than I paid for it,
but WAY less than a genuine montblanc, tiny fraction
of that actually.
Anyway, I shipped the item, and soon after it arrived
the buyer filed a paypal dispute stating that the item
bore a resemblance to a 'trade marked item', and was
of inferior quality. Subsequantly that paypal account was
limited, not sure if that's a coincidence, but it was a new
account and this was the only payment received (around $50).
So, obviously the buyer has spotted the photo, thought he
was getting the bargain of the century, and now having realised
the truth is screaming blue murder.
I can't even argue the paypal dispute, as the account is limited.
I am prepared to put this down to experience, as I knew what
I was doing when listing the item, but still... ;)
Can I recover the account from this ? Annoyed that it's a new
account with CC and bank account all added and verified, that
may be wasted.

Incidently, the linked ebay account is still up, with 10+ fb before selling.. so loathed
to throw this away too, if I can avoid it.

HI: I'd wait out the pp.. it may not be because of vero-- did the guy return to you?
I';d issue refund, send pp their docs and move on..
BTW-- there are SO MANY ⊗⊗⊗⊗ MB's--nowadays theyre moving onto ST Dupont, and Cartier pens, as so many ⊗⊗⊗⊗ MB dealers out there...
--p.s. take a look over on ioffer---- $10,$15,$25--- but theyre not from germany,theyre from China

No he hasn't returned the item..
I'm always happy to refund whenever a buyer is unhappy,
keeping my accounts up is more important to me than any
one sale.
Just kinda annoyed at this one, as his basic argument is
"it isn't a montblanc", when I never said it was... lol
He was hoping to get a steal from some poor sucker who didn't
realise the value of what they had, and it didn't pan out.
Yeah I know how many ⊗⊗⊗⊗ are out there, I just bought
a small batch of them to try it out, and although they do
sell reasonably well, they're not good enough copies
to pass for the real thing, so I wouldn't dream of trying
to sell them for anywhere near the value of the
originals.

It's true about the power sellers having power alright! A power seller got me kicked off for five days based on a false report! After I proved it was a lie...I asked Ebay to take action against the power seller for "ABUSING EBAY", "Interfering with the operation of Ebay" and obviously abusing the reporting system result = No response from ebay and Power seller account =Still active! I made it so obvious that it was 100% bogus...

They said I stole there picture and discription for an item...but get this ..the seller claimed I stole this from them in APRIL....My first listing went up June 10th! My account was non existant before May! I pointed all this out and so far no response...