| | | rocky123 | 05-27-2008 05:34 PM | thanks for your replies.. can ebay provide them with my credit card details as it has expired credit card on file with real info.. and what about ip addresses.. havent really come across a vero like that this is driving me insane.. has anyone come across such a situation before? |
| rocky123 | 05-27-2008 05:37 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by TMiles2564
(Post 42880)
are you sure the email from Ebay is not a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or scam. This seems very strong for one pulled listing.....Sounds like to me some scam artist is trying to get your money | yes!! i think this vero is middle man some kind of agent monitoring on other behalfs.. coudnt be scam as listing was removed saying trademark violation than i received this email days after with my ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name and address... i have heard ebay provides personal info to the vero if he requests |
| Lisa B | 05-27-2008 05:38 PM | eBay is NOT supposed to give out your credit card number to anyone.
I agree with everyone else, sounds like a scam, I would just delete any future emails without even opening them. |
| rocky123 | 05-27-2008 06:57 PM | no i dont think it is a scam they have legit website and just visited that !! should i reply via email saying i didnot know that and that i will refrain from doing so plus there isnt any sale made ..? |
| jollybee | 05-27-2008 07:51 PM | Hi--Just my 2 cents...
My best friend had a situation with Vero a few months back. It made her SO nervous--and me too, just hearing the threats. Since this has indeed happened to someone very close to me recently, I would have to say this may very well be legit.
I do believe in your situation however that is indeed just a "threat" to deter you from further sales. From first hand watching my friend's experience, I would agree also, to just ignore it--absolutely DO NOT respond<< Even though you may feel compelled to. Especially, if there is "false" information attached to your account, there is virtually no way they can enforce anything. Ebay is by no means permitted to share your info. With my friends experience, the Vero member DID contact a few of her prior customers--got the info. from past auctions from the feedback, but ebay did not hand her info. over. Her real name and info. was on this Ebay acct. so it could easily be obtained. From the advice of members of this forum, she ignored all further emails from the Company and not too much has happened since--knock wood.
This stuff is way too hard to prove "intent". If you respond in ANY way, you may mistakenly admit guilt to something and then you may have given them something to go on. Absent a response, they have NOTHING--especailly without a sale....
Don't worry---Just trying to scare you. If nothing came out of her situation, nothing is going to come out of yours...Don't loose sleep, that's what they count on;) |
| djmuggs | 05-27-2008 08:13 PM | VeRo Items.... When I do get back on eBay (IF I do), I want to sell these dvd box sets I have... Are these considered VeRo items??
I know that the bose earphones, and like tiffany jewelry are VeRo items, but are dvds? |
| 2eXclusiive | 05-27-2008 09:09 PM | yes, they are, because ebay will suspect that they are copies, i once put up a dvd set and used a stock photo of the dvd set and it got taken down.
Not a smart idea if your new. |
| jscan | 05-28-2008 02:09 AM | i would just keep what your doing and ignore it, you havent done anything so dont worry.
as most people here said, its just a scare tactic to deter you from selling/distributing there products. |
| jscan | 05-28-2008 02:19 AM | dvd box sets, tiffany and co jewelery from china and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ bose headphones?
Guaranteed to get you Vero'd and your account suspended if your a new seller.
mite be able to get away with 1 or 2 items, but you'll eventually get suspended |
| 2eXclusiive | 05-28-2008 04:49 AM | i didn't know they made ⊗⊗⊗⊗ bose headdphones until recently. |
| jscan | 05-28-2008 06:46 AM | there no where near as good as real bose, practically like normal headphones or worse, theres heaps of sennisher ( cant spell it ) ones out too, |
| 2eXclusiive | 05-28-2008 04:39 PM | i have bose in-ear headphones the new ones, black and white wires, quality of sound is amazing. |
| jscan | 05-28-2008 08:20 PM | lol yeah im sure they must be 1000 times better then a $20 pair of sony ones |
| 2eXclusiive | 05-28-2008 08:21 PM | yea they really are, im interested in buying bose speakers just for the quality. |
| ebayhateluv | 05-28-2008 09:40 PM | DJ:
FYI--Dvds seem to sell very well on Amazon... |
| octagon69 | 05-29-2008 11:12 AM | The dvd box sets will get your suspends on Ebay fast. Umm I went like 1-2 months before my accounts go linked.. but that was my mistake. You could considerbly longer then 1-2 months before you get suspended, it will happen eventually. |
| mantisinc | 05-29-2008 01:28 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jscan
(Post 42966)
there no where near as good as real bose, practically like normal headphones or worse, theres heaps of sennisher ( cant spell it ) ones out too, | Not true actually. I bought it a batch of Bose from china which I was told were genuine, and fell for it. The sound quality was identical to the genuine ones, as I have a pair myself. But when I got Bose to look at them, the drivers in them were ⊗⊗⊗⊗.
All of the Bose Triport earphones on ebay are ⊗⊗⊗⊗, if they are in cardboard boxes. The genuine ones come blister packed. |
| 2eXclusiive | 05-29-2008 02:04 PM | yea, i remember 6 months ago they were going for $80.00+ on ebay the one in cardboard boxes and now they barely hit $40.00-$50.00 because ebay is flooded with them |
| djmuggs | 05-29-2008 02:57 PM | Yep, around chrismas time i was getting them for 20$ each, selling em on ebay for 65-75$ but now EVERYONE is getting in on it, and since my account got banned i finished with that...
but yes EVERY SINGLE pair on ebay is COMPLETELY ⊗⊗⊗⊗, except the 99.95$ ones from the powersellers.. those are the ONLY ones that are real on ebay.. lol
but yeah as for the quality on the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ones, the only difference i can tell between the real and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ is the bass. the real ones have an overwhelming bass level as the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ barely have any at all...
but for half the price, if i were a consumer id sacrifice some bass for 50 bucks |
| mantisinc | 05-29-2008 03:53 PM | Bose have clamped down hugely on them, you'll have a job now selling more than 5 or so without loosing an account.
But yea profits were sky high on them. |
| 2eXclusiive | 05-29-2008 05:11 PM | Bose stepped it up on ebay, ive seen sellers's list 100's of bose in ear headphones the ones in the box, and then a month later when everyone was getting in on the action bose stepped it up and started knocking people down (the ones who were selling the ⊗⊗⊗⊗) |
| yogarelax | 05-29-2008 05:24 PM | On new clothes , with tags, I have been putting a copy of the receipt in the ad.. so far ok... going very SLOWLY. |
| 2eXclusiive | 05-29-2008 05:41 PM | good luck yogarelax
hope everything goes your way
=D |
| jscan | 05-29-2008 09:55 PM | yeah i use to stare at my computer and wonder back when i was having trouble, i agree waste of time. better to use that time trying to get around and it and make more money :) |
| djmuggs | 05-30-2008 08:51 AM | If i try to list some dvd box sets when this account of mine is a month old.. would ebay pull me down? if i list ONE A week, then 2 a week, and thjen 3 and then so on? |
Someone please post the link to website where you can buy the DVD's |
| djmuggs | 05-30-2008 01:26 PM | sorry, but i dont feel comfortable giving the website out to a forum full of ebay sellers...
lol nothing personal but its just business |
Vero - No Vero Needed any more ... This is a new one for me. I had listed multiple auctions (7). I was going to use these to build feedback for a seller account. The items were coffee mugs with logos from a very well known restaurant chain that went out of business in the 1980's, the chain was in existence for over 40 years before closing it's doors. It is impossible for anyone to know if these were real or "replicas". There were just pictures of various coffee mugs on hte auction page. No one could possibly know if the mugs were authorized by the long out of business company. This company produced and/or authorized thousands, yes thousands. of Promo Items.
There were no VERO mentioned .. no questions, just the auctions ended. No appeals mentioned, nothing. I do find the last paragraph in the email quite interesting.
It now appears anyone can just claim an item is ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and have auctions terminated.
the account was NOT suspended. MC019 eBay Listing Removed: Trademark Violation - Unauthorized Item
Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
You recently listed the following listing:
9999999999
9999999999
9999999999
9999999999
The listing was removed because it violated eBay policy. We notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has been canceled.
Trademark infringement is unlawful and violates eBay's policies. A trademark is a unique sign (such as a name, word, phrase, logo, or symbol) that a company uses to identify its products and/or services.
Using another company's trademark in a way that may confuse buyers about the source of goods or services, or confuses buyers into believing that the seller is affiliated with, sponsored by or endorsed by the trademark owner is both illegal and against eBay's policies. Examples include counterfeits, unauthorized replica items and items that bear the brand or logo of a company without that company's permission.
Guideline: If the product you are listing bears the brand or logo of a company, but it wasn't made or authorized by that company, don't sell it on eBay.
It's against the law to sell unauthorized replicas of brand name products. Accordingly, listings for unauthorized replicas are not permitted on eBay.
For more information, please visit the following Help pages: Replica, Counterfeit Items and Unauthorized Copies Trademark and Domain Name Basics
To take the intellectual property tutorial, please visit: eBay Policy Tutorial - VeRO
Please be aware that any additional violations of this policy may result in the suspension of your account. eBay understands that you may be concerned about this situation.
For more information on why eBay may remove a listing, please visit: Why eBay May Remove Your Listing
Please be assured that your listings have not been targeted in any way. Although there may be similar items currently listed on eBay, we review all listings that are reported to us by eBay members or Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) program participants. We rely on reports from our members to help maintain the safety and security of our Community. We encourage you to report any items by using the REPORT THIS ITEM button on the listing so we can quickly remove any other items that should be removed.
Thank you for your understanding.
Sincerely,
eBay Trust & Safety |
| octagon69 | 05-30-2008 02:42 PM | DJ I have been watching some of my competitors and even when they are only listing one or 3 non legit items they are getting pulled. Your selling HK silvers which should be ok. By ok I mean Ebay disregards HK boots and lets the sellers of these boots last much longer then my kind. (.... dvdr) So try it out. |
| thelizardking | 05-30-2008 03:31 PM | I got the same thing today, its probably a competitor. |
| Killed by Ebay | 05-30-2008 03:55 PM | they should show you everyone who reports you, letting any member report you is retarded, the vero members should be the only ones to do so |
It just seems crazy that ebay would even listen in these circumstances. It is just a coffee mug from a restaurant ... :rolleyes::rolleyes: |
| yogarelax | 05-30-2008 04:18 PM | well folks this is the voice of experience. This happened to me.
#1 , yes, anyone can report you for vero... as far as I can tell, ebay does no checking. One does NOT get suspended the fisrt time, or possible the second time, But after that, list again & you are skating on THIN ICE. Third time I got suspended. Now here is the kicker. The item was used {Third time I listed only listed this one }, , I said so, at least 5 years sold, I took the picture, wrote the description. BUT, the person reporting has you on their saved search list so of you relist and use the name, say Gap, , Avon, Banana republic. in the listing, they get the search sent to them.
Now, all they have to do is report you and poof you are off. I then, per ebay, called the company, t/w their legal dept. who informed me, that their goal was to not have their products listed on ebay... period. They did not care it you purchased this,if it was a gift, nada. They are also fully aware that all they have to do is report you and "poof" that is it. Now, you are wondering WHY there are 600 hundred other folks listing and getting by? Beats me. I do believe that once you get a vero on a certain item you are on THE LIST.{ sorry this is long, but it is the result of my investigation and a guess at the end part} Therefore, well, I am not sure of the therefore, but if I get a vero I will NEVER,NEVER, NEVER list that item again. In fact the search list discontinues after a time. so I am not listing with that Id for a LONG, LONG, time. Perhaps I am wrong, but this is exactly what happened to me. |
| yogarelax | 05-30-2008 04:42 PM | I should add that had I been bright enough the first time i got a vero to check around, perhaps I would have found this forum and saved myself a heap of troubles.
What did i learn???? Be as invisible as possible and do not panic, check around before you TRY to solve the problem.
Fool me once... shame on you... fool me twice.. I am a dumb ass!!! |
| imjustme | 05-30-2008 05:02 PM | I had a few hundred year old vase VERO'd with the same message a few months back. |
| yogarelax | 05-30-2008 05:15 PM | did you try to sell it again??? in any way? |
| djmuggs | 05-31-2008 01:03 AM | hk silvers??? like tv shows u mean? |
| jscan | 05-31-2008 03:02 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Killed by Ebay
(Post 43439)
they should show you everyone who reports you, letting any member report you is retarded, the vero members should be the only ones to do so | Yeah well if they did that it'd be a MEGAWAR! |
| 2eXclusiive | 05-31-2008 09:25 AM | what are hk silvers? |
| GreenBean | 05-31-2008 10:57 AM | LOL. They are put on the genuine VCDs produced by video companies to determine that the item is real.;) Before the VCD is packaged a silver sticker with a hologram is stuck along the case opening of the VCD. In the US, Universal, Warner Bros & others pack their items the same. One of the main HK companies is Mei Ah.They do a lot of action films.;) The actual hologram is a marker so to speak. When you are looking to buy these cheaply in HK, it helps you decide if the item is OK.:)
*nb I am talking about VCDs & not DVDs.... there is a difference. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:08 PM. | |
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