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Sausage 11-16-2012 12:37 AM

I have a similar problem. I use a VPN (private tunnel) for downloading torrents but turn it off for logging into eBay. I was thinking of writing to eBay and making them aware of the fact I need to use a VPN and if there was going to be any problems using it on ebay, rather tell them so they don't flag me?

Thoughts??

hapajenn1 01-24-2013 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspkin (Post 49151)
99% of ip maskers don't work and eBay & Paypal hate them...

You'll either have to change your current ip address, use dialup, use a wifi connection, VPN, AOL Proxy, and probably a few other options, but ip maskers don't work.

Does a public wifi (say at a Starbucks) enable EB/PP to see the general area you're logging in from? I ask b/c the guy on here who sold me the Stealth put the address in a US state thats like 3000 miles away from me.

ninex 02-19-2013 04:12 PM

I use HMA Pro. It allows me to select the city,state,country and several hub locations per city. I have not noticed any negative reaction from ebay, at least not yet.

Brainbuster 08-11-2013 10:04 AM

I've used anonymous-proxies.net, for two Ebay accounts. I paid for them, they were private, virgin proxies. I only used proxies because I needed to appear in a particular location. I didn't use either account extensively, but I can at least affirm that I could bid on dozens of auctions with either account, and I verified one of the accounts with entropay.

Before setting up the Ebay accounts, I was sure to check at whatismyipaddress.com, ipburger.com, and ipmarker.com, to be sure no proxy was "detected."

mctrader07 12-23-2013 03:52 PM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
that is great advice

CTX 02-02-2014 11:59 AM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
I use Tor.

I was in Spain yesterday & now im in France.

Ebayorbust 02-02-2014 12:01 PM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CTX (Post 525107)
I use Tor.



I was in Spain yesterday & now im in France.


Not a good idea if you want to keep accounts for the long haul.

MM78 02-02-2014 12:42 PM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CTX (Post 525107)
I use Tor.

I was in Spain yesterday & now im in France.

Wow that's a super bad idea....You must like taking huge gambles, good luck with that.

CTX 02-02-2014 01:40 PM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Opps.

Who/what should I use?

MM78 02-02-2014 02:48 PM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CTX (Post 525122)
Opps.

Who/what should I use?

There's many options;
1. Phone Tethering
2. Switching Modems
3. Dongles
4. MIFI's
5. VPS (only if the right one is found)

Which is best? It's up to you to figure which works best for you.

GreenBean 02-02-2014 05:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CTX (Post 525107)
I use Tor.

I was in Spain yesterday & now im in France.

Great!!!!!!

Let me know when you hit NARU. You risk being there soon.

Very poor idea to use Tor.

I noticed you are hoping to purchase accounts. Please work out now that you should have an ISP local to the UK.

Your choice of Tor is flawed. Too many others have used it & ebay/paypal regard it as no good.

:mod:

JamesNorth101 02-02-2014 05:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CTX (Post 525122)
Opps.

Who/what should I use?

Changing your IP address, phone tethering and dongles should all come in handy.

Brainbuster 02-03-2014 07:24 AM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 525137)
There's many options;
1. Phone Tethering
2. Switching Modems
3. Dongles
4. MIFI's
5. VPS (only if the right one is found)

Which is best? It's up to you to figure which works best for you.

6. The 1st option in the Ebay Stealth book.
"Changing Your Router's Mac Address."

GreenBean 02-03-2014 07:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainbuster (Post 525329)
6. The 1st option in the Ebay Stealth book.
"Changing Your Router's Mac Address."

That is doable for some users.

Quite a few users are not techincally skilled. They have found it easier to use the options mentioned by MM78.

So long as stealth is working, and the choice is easy to make that is what matters.

Ease of use is part of good stealth activity.

:mod:

CTX 02-03-2014 09:17 AM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 525137)
There's many options;
1. Phone Tethering
2. Switching Modems
3. Dongles
4. MIFI's
5. VPS (only if the right one is found)

Which is best? It's up to you to figure which works best for you.

1. I'm currently using my Iphone 5.
2. I don't have a ADSL/Broadband connection as yet..I have access to a friends.
3. I've not used any as yet.
4. MIFI's?
5. Just a case of looking.

CTX 02-03-2014 09:32 AM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 525187)
Changing your IP address, phone tethering and dongles should all come in handy.

I might go down the dongle route.

3 (Three) offer TRUE unlimited (all you can eat)

Thank you

CTX 02-04-2014 06:22 AM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 525186)
Great!!!!!!

Let me know when you hit NARU. You risk being there soon.

Very poor idea to use Tor.

I noticed you are hoping to purchase accounts. Please work out now that you should have an ISP local to the UK.

Your choice of Tor is flawed. Too many others have used it & ebay/paypal regard it as no good.

:mod:

I am awaiting a new ISP's details. New provider etc

GreenBean 02-04-2014 06:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CTX (Post 525724)
I am awaiting a new ISP's details. New provider etc

Sounds most encouraging.

Dont rush and all will come together soon enough.

Good Luck

:thumb:

CTX 02-05-2014 05:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 525728)
Sounds most encouraging.

Dont rush and all will come together soon enough.

Good Luck

:thumb:

Thank you. ;-)

Haraen 02-25-2014 10:19 AM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Ok, I was suspended from eBay and Paypal. When I'm opening a new account I'm going to use my prepaid Visa, and every time I change the card the number changes. However, the numbers are considered the bank account number, and generally I've been able to use the same account for multiple eBay/PP accounts.

My question is- can PP see my bank information and name on the account? I'd hate to get suspended because of that link. Also, I'm running a great VPN and am completely stealthed otherwise. Thanks!

MM78 02-25-2014 04:23 PM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Haraen (Post 532010)
Ok, I was suspended from eBay and Paypal. When I'm opening a new account I'm going to use my prepaid Visa, and every time I change the card the number changes. However, the numbers are considered the bank account number, and generally I've been able to use the same account for multiple eBay/PP accounts.

My question is- can PP see my bank information and name on the account? I'd hate to get suspended because of that link. Also, I'm running a great VPN and am completely stealthed otherwise. Thanks!

Sorry but I have no idea what your trying to say.
Are you saying that you have a Prepaid Visa Card that also comes with a Routing and Account number for deposits?

As far using the card itself for the address verification on paypal, the address on file with the prepaid card will have to match what you put in paypal as your address.

If you have not used the Routing/Account number before then it will be safe to use BUT you need to make sure whoever the issuing bank is will allow for mismatch name deposits...if that's the case that is.

Haraen 02-27-2014 10:00 AM

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Ok, sorry for the confusion. I guess what I'm asking is will my accounts be traced through the name on my bank accounts. The prepaid visa I use has a routing number and account (GreenDot). The account number is the same as the number on my card, and when I changed cards my account updated to the new number.

I'm debating using the same bank as it's under a different account, but it has the same name as before. Should I do it or just get a new account with a different bank? Also, the names match as well as the address. I really appreciate the help =)

black_label 05-12-2014 01:55 PM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Haraen (Post 532805)
Ok, sorry for the confusion. I guess what I'm asking is will my accounts be traced through the name on my bank accounts. The prepaid visa I use has a routing number and account (GreenDot). The account number is the same as the number on my card, and when I changed cards my account updated to the new number.

I'm debating using the same bank as it's under a different account, but it has the same name as before. Should I do it or just get a new account with a different bank? Also, the names match as well as the address. I really appreciate the help =)


LMAO! I read this whole thread about IP tracking and the question was about bank accounts? Not making fun I just thought it was comical. Anyways, I have 10 accounts with ONE bank all under my name (I've been a member for a while so I can make and close accounts freely.) PayPal DOES NOT verify name and address only account # and Routing # although my bank says they COULD if they felt that they needed to. But judging from everyone's practices here, I don't think paypal does that often.

nick8898 06-20-2014 12:47 PM

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i have been using strongvpn, no problem at all, they are very professional :):)

trav 08-29-2014 03:31 PM

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Anybody tried these guys for a VPN or know if this would work for stealth accounts:

avast! SecureLine VPN | Secure any public WiFi

123 08-30-2014 02:14 AM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trav (Post 583447)
Anybody tried these guys for a VPN or know if this would work for stealth accounts:

avast! SecureLine VPN | Secure any public WiFi

Overall best to avoid big well known branded vpn companies, they share ips frequently

aycapitalgroup 02-07-2015 12:23 PM

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Does anyone know a Los Angeles based VPN, I am from that area and would love if my ip address always came back as from that area. Is it possible?

nick8898 02-08-2015 12:19 PM

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you can try strongvpn

they are very professional, i have been using their service

Piperx 03-11-2015 05:20 PM

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I have read and am re-reading tonight the ebay stealth guide (thank you!!). To clarify, VPN Client Software | 24vc would not be recommended as ebay is onto these tools recently?

123 03-11-2015 05:50 PM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Piperx (Post 649329)
I have read and am re-reading tonight the ebay stealth guide (thank you!!). To clarify, VPN Client Software | 24vc would not be recommended as ebay is onto these tools recently?

Hi, 24vc is used by tons of aspkin members for ebay stealth usage without problems, can learn about why it works here

Guaranteed Fresh IP Address – Explained

And smart move to buy the guide!

Piperx 03-11-2015 08:47 PM

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I've re-read stealth, am set for first account, new (used) laptop so new IP, bank account, forwarded #, different apt # than last account, etc....Will sleep on it, review stealth again in am and give it a go, love the forum and the guide, thanks

Piperx 03-11-2015 08:48 PM

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Then figure out the multiple IP addresses

Piperx 03-11-2015 08:48 PM

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Thanks 123!!

rsot 03-11-2015 10:15 PM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Piperx (Post 649376)
Then figure out the multiple IP addresses

Smart approach.

UK_Seller 03-25-2015 06:11 AM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Hi everyone, I am trying to get back to eBay but I need some stuff clarified about the IP address. I just phoned up my ISP and they told me I have a dynamic IP but everytime I type in on google what is my IP i get the same IP which is known as my PUBLIC IP, that doesn't change and they said that it is assigned to the router.

Also I have Iphone with a 3g unlimited internet which changes IP everytime I switch it on and off but if soemone checks it, lets say i am using my 3g from my home address but with a different IP, if I go to the IPburger there is an option to "show on map" and it shows my address. So I am guessing I can't use phone thetering?

VPN/VPS someone mentioned strongvpn, they seem quite reliable to me and I am thinking of giving it a try but I have few question's before I go ahead with it.

For stealth you need ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name and address + new IP. So when you log with VPN(having new IP) will it show my home address or it will give a random address within birmingham area ? And what if the address related to the IP is different from the one given for Ebay and Paypal ? What happens then ? How does it actually operate?

Please I will appreciate your help! I am looking for the safest way of starting on this journey without spending loads of money. Obviously with VPN i will have to spend some thtas ok I think I can do that.

Just need some direction regarding the IP, what would be the best way of tackling it?

Thank you

rsot 03-25-2015 08:38 AM

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Careful with the HIDE-type of programs - PP is not as stupid as you think...lot of detection goes into their system to smoke out Tor, VPNs, etc

UK_Seller 03-25-2015 08:47 AM

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The hide and stuff program was just a tester really I haven't used it for anything, I was just looking at some ideas on how to change the IP and that was the only thing that changed it but it is not like that I am going to use it as it is not reliable for sure. I cannot be 100%.

But if you skip that part how would you answer the rest of my post please?

Thank you

rsot 03-25-2015 09:21 AM

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Technically, I do know that IP can be traced to location via geolocation software but I can't write a ton about it because my knowledge is limited. I do know (at least overtly) that PP/eB don't use geolocation yet. If I'm wrong, other posters will come on to correct I am certain.

Search "geolocation" on the forums for posts on the subject

swbluto 08-22-2015 02:40 PM

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I've read that ordinary HTTP proxies are a bad idea because a simple DNS check can indicate you're using a proxy (Most HTTP proxies only operate on the HTTP ports (HTTP and SSL, depending on the proxy.), and not the other ports such as the DNS ports). And, paypal does this check.

VPN would work, however, VPNs typically share IPs between many users (How exactly are you going to get 10 private IPs for $7? Proxies are much more expensive than that.). Unless someone can point me to a private VPN, where you get exclusive access to each IP on the VPN, I'm not trusting of the vast majority of VPNs out there in the sub-$10 range. (I use a VPN myself, and I'm not planning on using it for ebay; mostly for torrents.)

It seems that SOCK proxies are the only proxies that will pass all of paypal's tests and multiple people have commented they've only been successful with private SOCK proxies. (SOCK proxies operate on the entire socket, meaning all the ports like the DNS port.) However, I'm still curious if paypal can see through the host - I'm guessing that'll depend on the particular SOCK proxy provider, whether they host their IPs off their own website host or under an ISP. I don't really know the lay of the landscape, it could be almost everyone hosts SOCK proxies under an ISP so it's indistinguishable to a regular internet user's ISP host. The price for SOCK proxies are more like what you'd expect - often $3 - $4/proxy, which seems to be the going rate for static IPs directly from ordinary ISPs (Comcast, Qwest, Verizon, etc). Would lead one to believe SOCK proxies get their IPs directly from the ISPs.

123 08-22-2015 02:49 PM

Re: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swbluto (Post 697491)
I've read that ordinary HTTP proxies are a bad idea because a simple DNS check can indicate you're using a proxy (Most HTTP proxies only operate on the HTTP ports (HTTP and SSL, depending on the proxy.), and not the other ports such as the DNS ports). And, paypal does this check.

VPN would work, however, VPNs typically share IPs between many users (How exactly are you going to get 10 private IPs for $7? Proxies are much more expensive than that.). Unless someone can point me to a private VPN, where you get exclusive access to each IP on the VPN, I'm not trusting of the vast majority of VPNs out there in the sub-$10 range. (I use a VPN myself, and I'm not planning on using it for ebay; mostly for torrents.)

It seems that SOCK proxies are the only proxies that will pass all of paypal's tests and multiple people have commented they've only been successful with private SOCK proxies. However, I'm still curious if paypal can see through the host - I'm guessing that'll depend on the particular SOCK proxy provider, whether they host their IPs off their own website host or under an ISP. I don't really know the lay of the landscape, it could be almost everyone hosts SOCK proxies under an ISP so it's indistinguishable to a regular internet user's ISP host. The price for SOCK proxies are more like what you'd expect - often $3 - $4/proxy, which seems to be the going rate for static IPs directly from ordinary ISPs (Comcast, Qwest, Verizon, etc).

Would highly recommend avoiding proxies entirely, too many variables that can go wrong, and even the ones that can't be detected as being a proxy the ips that they give are often highly abused and have been reissued a ton of times before, which that alone already puts you at a higher risk.

And yes your right most VPN's share ips between many users, that's why you have to pick the right one, check out 24vc's thread: (guaranteed fresh ips available)

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-ac...tml#post697176

But yeah no matter what company you choose to go with, I would recommend a VPN or VPS, avoid proxies.


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