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Dufus 03-17-2020 12:08 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Good news that usps will continue working.
https://about.usps.com/newsroom/stat...oronavirus.htm

james13v 03-17-2020 02:01 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1077954)
I usually agree with most that you say, but I have to wonder about your math abilities with this post. lol

7 days gets every person in China a mask. And not every person in the world is going to want or need one.

Production has ramped up 20x since last month, don't be so naive to think it won't keep multiplying.

Regarding the rest of your post, looks like a few hints on what stocks to invest in. :)

If the masks were unlimited use, sure. As they are produced and distributed, they are also used up and discharged. Especially with medical professionals, probably going through a dozen a day.

how do we know which person in the world needs one? We can't predict who'd get sick. Young healthy people might be sick and never know it. Doesn't hurt them, but hurts others around them.

But again, while production has ramped up 20X, it's not something that can keep increasing, if it can even be sustained at that pace, for the reasons I mentioned. It literally CAN'T keep multiplying. I'm not sure how long it can keep up this current pace to be honest.

They are running out of the material to make the masks, and you can't just increase production of that. It will take MONTHS to setup manufacturing before production increases. Making masks is actually a very complicated process. It might look easy, but it's not. We are talking about a product that can keep out something as small as a virus...

james13v 03-17-2020 02:03 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1077957)
First confirmed case in my town. A damn doctor!

They are reaching out to his patients, and trying to see where he got it from.

my area has had quite a few.... even people my age. Good thing I'm a bit of a recluse and don't have many friends anymore lol. Since the, umm, election...

I doubt I'll personally know someone that dies, or maybe even get sick (with knowledge they are sick). Tho my best friends sister in laws uncle just died?

Pandoras_box 03-17-2020 02:24 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1077990)
my area has had quite a few.... even people my age. Good thing I'm a bit of a recluse and don't have many friends anymore lol. Since the, umm, election...

So you wear a red hat. :bird:

I always thought it was green but I'll concede I'm color blind.

james13v 03-17-2020 02:29 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1077992)
So you wear a red hat. :bird:

I always thought it was green but I'll concede I'm color blind.

I didn't vote for him. But god forbid I defended the guy. Now i'm a monster, racist, bigoted neo nazi. So if that's the hat they say I wear, I might as well get it sized to fit comfortably. I'm always on the side of the unpopular opinion lol


ebaystealth1974 03-17-2020 02:33 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1077988)
If the masks were unlimited use, sure. As they are produced and distributed, they are also used up and discharged. Especially with medical professionals, probably going through a dozen a day.

how do we know which person in the world needs one? We can't predict who'd get sick. Young healthy people might be sick and never know it. Doesn't hurt them, but hurts others around them.

But again, while production has ramped up 20X, it's not something that can keep increasing, if it can even be sustained at that pace, for the reasons I mentioned. It literally CAN'T keep multiplying. I'm not sure how long it can keep up this current pace to be honest.

They are running out of the material to make the masks, and you can't just increase production of that. It will take MONTHS to setup manufacturing before production increases. Making masks is actually a very complicated process. It might look easy, but it's not. We are talking about a product that can keep out something as small as a virus...

You have good points.

Far right republicans who think this is a hoax don't want a mask.
Homeless don't want a mask.
The poor probably aren't very concerned with a mask
I don't want one(as of right now) because I'm just staying away from people.

I'd say 25% of Americans, or less, will want a mask. Just a guess... who knows.

james13v 03-17-2020 02:40 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1077996)
You have good points.

Far right republicans who think this is a hoax don't want a mask.
Homeless don't want a mask.
The poor probably aren't very concerned with a mask
I don't want one(as of right now) because I'm just staying away from people.

I'd say 25% of Americans, or less, will want a mask. Just a guess... who knows.

Most of my family would probably be considered far right republicans. And trust me, they think this can be serious. The hoax claim was specifically about what they were saying about trump and his handling of it and everything they said to make him look bad. Trump was already calling for border closings and was pissed off the plane with sick people was let in, and etc etc, long before anyone heard the word "hoax".

Pandoras_box 03-17-2020 02:46 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1077925)
Watch your mouth...

Or what? Don't go shooting up a school cos someone almost toyed with your gun. :bounce:


Just kidding.
=}

Pandoras_box 03-17-2020 02:52 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1077993)
I didn't vote for him. But god forbid I defended the guy. Now i'm a monster, racist, bigoted neo nazi. So if that's the hat they say I wear, I might as well get it sized to fit comfortably. I'm always on the side of the unpopular opinion lol

Stop Making Me Defend Donald Trump! | We The Internet TV - YouTube

Although I'm completely devoid of interest in politics of any kind, I have a particular affinity for him.

Two other things: He comes off as someone who loves his country, and the man has the right amount of fight in him.

ebaystealth1974 03-17-2020 02:52 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1077997)
Most of my family would probably be considered far right republicans. And trust me, they think this can be serious. The hoax claim was specifically about what they were saying about trump and his handling of it and everything they said to make him look bad. Trump was already calling for border closings and was pissed off the plane with sick people was let in, and etc etc, long before anyone heard the word "hoax".

No, I know people who thing this is just a reach for control, and people really aren't sick, and there's no need for any worry.

I guess my people are to the right of your people. :lol:

ebaystealth1974 03-17-2020 02:59 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1077999)
Or what? Don't go shooting up a school cos someone almost toyed with your gun. :bounce:

[IMG]https://i.imgflip.com/1rv5za.jpg[IMG]

Just kidding.
=}


Maybe all of that is funny in the UK? :confused:

Lost in "translation", I suppose.

JamesNorth101 03-17-2020 03:01 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1078004)
Maybe all of that is funny in the UK? :confused:

Lost in "translation", I suppose.

It was essentially telling you stop being so self righteous and easily triggered

ebaystealth1974 03-17-2020 03:11 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1078006)
It was essentially telling you stop being so self righteous and easily triggered

I wasn't. But I see yall are from the same country, so I guess it's all lost on both of you. lol

JamesNorth101 03-17-2020 03:25 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
That is how it came across none the less. Maybe its lost on us :)

ebaystealth1974 03-17-2020 04:14 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1078014)
That is how it came across none the less. Maybe its lost on us :)


That's what I'm saying lol :peace:

ebaystealth1974 03-17-2020 07:28 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1077818)
3/16/20 UPDATE

https://i.ibb.co/YkvkCrk/3-16-20-cas...side-china.png

18800 new cases on the 16th. Bitcoin was stagnant, stock market continued crashing.

I can't be bothered to do the math part right now.

You still using worldometer for those numbers? It's showing 12,876 for me, which is a little less than the day before.

ebaystealth1974 03-17-2020 07:45 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1077818)

I can't be bothered to do the math part right now.

Good! I find them very pessimistic... doom and gloom ish. :dance:

I like this type of graph, that shows we are nowhere near any sort of exponential growth. In fact, the expansion rate appears to be slowing. (for now, but I bet all the new testing capabilities for us will increase it some)

The red line is 1, which represents consistent/same growth
Between 0 and 1 is a decline
Above 1 is an increase(2 would be double, for instance)

https://i.imgur.com/fzprTu0.png

ebaystealth1974 03-17-2020 07:46 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Thank GOODNESS we aren't up around 2, 3, or 4! Wouldn't be good.

phaz0rz 03-17-2020 08:24 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
I never used worldometers, lol. I use the johns-hopkins-grade stuff

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

phaz0rz 03-17-2020 08:29 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
3/17/20 UPDATE

https://i.ibb.co/jM4bbP8/3-17-20-cas...side-china.png

15600 new cases on the 17th.
New case/recovery graph:
https://i.ibb.co/rMhZgk9/3-17-20-daily-cases.png

It's pretty damn close to exponential, ebs.
:shocked:

EDIT: Also wtf is your chart trying to show? Seems to implicate the opposite of what the reported date is showing.

Pandoras_box 03-18-2020 06:07 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H4ck (Post 1078101)
lets hope we get into a deep depression, I want to see some hot deperate women posting up for sex to pay for their bills......

also will see expensive hookers start lowering their rates.....

What a cryptic way to let us know you've never travelled. ;)


Meanwhile, this is how I feel.

.

rsot 03-18-2020 06:09 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H4ck (Post 1078101)
lets hope we get into a deep depression, I want to see some hot deperate women posting up for sex to pay for their bills......

also will see expensive hookers start lowering their rates.....

Money better spent elsewhere...

997turbo 03-18-2020 06:28 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 

ebabe 03-18-2020 07:00 AM

Re: Supermarkets limit food purchase
 
Same thing now in the UK. Rationing On *many* products. From what I have read on some news sites.

JamesNorth101 03-18-2020 07:00 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1078151)
What a cryptic way to let us know you've never travelled. ;)


Meanwhile, this is how I feel.

.

Thats not very nice!

Im sure he did leave his bedroom once when his mum was out and he ran out of Kleenex ;) They were quite scary times.

JamesNorth101 03-18-2020 07:23 AM

Re: Supermarkets limit food purchase
 
They are rationing most 'desirable' products

james13v 03-18-2020 08:09 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H4ck (Post 1078097)
people are stockpiling on guns and ammo also, I don't have much to worry about since I have 2 guns ready to protect and defend.

because people are losing jobs left and right and will get evicted and face foreclosure soon so their is desperation.....people are selling out guns and ammo right now because crime is about to go up....

I thought italy had imposed a moratorium on mortgage payments.

james13v 03-18-2020 08:10 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
anyone elses sales grinding to a halt? I had thought my market would pass through it, as it's typically catering to the higher end of the income bracket... Guess not

JamesNorth101 03-18-2020 08:13 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1078183)
I thought italy had imposed a moratorium on mortgage payments.

We have a 3 months break in the UK for people struggling to pay their mortgages

phaz0rz 03-18-2020 08:17 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1078184)
anyone elses sales grinding to a halt? I had thought my market would pass through it, as it's typically catering to the higher end of the income bracket... Guess not


I'm actually thriving right now. The one bottleneck is slow China shipping speeds. :cheer:

Probably because I sell things for the one item everybody is glued to as they're stuck at home.


Also h4ck is in Cali, lol. The Italian flag is to show his appreciation for Mussolini. IDK why he didn't just go flagless. :noidea:

phaz0rz 03-18-2020 08:39 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
A microbiologist from the University of Hong Kong is calling for people who don't wear face masks to be banned from using public transport.

Quote:

A microbiologist from the University of Hong Kong on Wednesday called for people who don't wear face masks to be banned from using public transport, in light of a surge in the number of imported cases of Covid-19.

The head of the university’s Centre for Infection, Dr Ho Pak-leung, described the coming two weeks as a “critical period” in the city’s fight against the new coronavirus and said aggressive measures must be taken to contain its spread.

He said Hong Kong people must be united to break the chain of infections in the community, and have to wear faces masks when they go to work, as well as having their temperatures checked.

Ho said that on top of banning people who refuse to wear masks from public transport, they should also be stopped from getting into lifts.
https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...9-20200318.htm

Meanwhile on the other side of the world the government is trying to tell us there's no need for people who aren't sick to wear masks. So who's right? Maybe this guy is just highly invested in the face mask business?

JamesNorth101 03-18-2020 09:03 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
I think it’s very much a cultural thing in that a lot of Asian cultures do believe that the masks work whereas here in the west we don’t believe it as much. The scientific evidence can be interpreted to support either argument depending on what it is they’re trying to prove

Being that it’s not an airborne virus you’re much more likely to contract the virus through touching something and then touching your face so the masks will be somewhat limited as a preventative measure.

For those that have contracted it already however if they are coughing on something the mask will catch those particles and stop the virus spreading. Even better than wearing a mask that would be for those particular people to just not go out the house

ebaystealth1974 03-18-2020 09:16 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1078080)
I never used worldometers, lol. I use the johns-hopkins-grade stuff

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

I'm amazed at some of this shiit I dream up, sometimes! That explains why, for days now, I've not been able to replicate your graph layout on the site I was using! :lol:

ebaystealth1974 03-18-2020 09:33 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1078081)

It's pretty damn close to exponential, ebs



Maybe exponential doesn't mean what you think it does?

Exponential would be something like...
4,000 cases/day
8,000 cases/day
16,000 cases/day
32,000 cases/day
64,000 cases/day
128,000 cases/day
256,000 and so on (or even worse)

A simple doubling of daily cases.

NOT
15,000
16,100
17,000
18,000
18,900

The deaths are surely rising, but at NOWHERE NEAR an exponential rate. Thank God!

ebaystealth1974 03-18-2020 09:42 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1078081)



EDIT: Also wtf is your chart trying to show? Seems to implicate the opposite of what the reported date is showing.


It's showing whether or not growth is exponential.

If the numbers are along the red line, which is a factor of 1, it means cases are consistent. Growing by the same amount each day.

If the numbers were at 2, it would mean a doubling of cases everyday.

When it's between 0 and 1, there was a decline in cases that day, compared to the previous day.

So, even though the number of deaths are usually greater each day, the PERCENTAGE OF GROWTH seems to be dwindling down. And that is a VERY good thing.

ebaystealth1974 03-18-2020 09:45 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
You just multiply the growth factor x the previous day's cases.

GF=1.33, then you multiply previous day x 1.33 to get that day's cases

What we DONT want to see is that number hovering up around 2

What we DO want to see is the GF number consistently going down towards 1, and then finally down to 0.

Hope it all makes sense now.

james13v 03-18-2020 09:53 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1078193)
I think its very much a cultural thing in that a lot of Asian cultures do believe that the masks work whereas here in the west we dont believe it as much. The scientific evidence can be interpreted to support either argument depending on what it is theyre trying to prove

Being that its not an airborne virus youre much more likely to contract the virus through touching something and then touching your face so the masks will be somewhat limited as a preventative measure.

For those that have contracted it already however if they are coughing on something the mask will catch those particles and stop the virus spreading. Even better than wearing a mask that would be for those particular people to just not go out the house

but how do the people that contracted it already, KNOW they did, unless they are the ones with obvious symptoms? People that are sick should probably stay home tho. But by the time you know you're sick, how many people have you infected?


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