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trying 04-02-2020 09:48 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
I have the Same problem packages waiting since March 19th in hongkong waiting to go on a flight (due airlines cancellations ) Dhl express and they increased the prices almost 40% this is a disaster

phaz0rz 04-02-2020 09:56 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
I had one shipment picked up last night.

If you're using DHL out of HK you can expect a 10-12 day wait between the time you're given your tracking number and the time it starts showing updates.

yankee 04-02-2020 10:27 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trying (Post 1081973)
I have the Same problem packages waiting since March 19th in hongkong waiting to go on a flight (due airlines cancellations ) Dhl express and they increased the prices almost 40% this is a disaster

UPS raised 2%. Fedex about 11% This is China to USA. Not Hong Kong.

walkingupwards 04-02-2020 10:53 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Once lockdowns are lifted worldwide and people start closing financial transactions again, we will see the real inflation.


This is a plandemic, not a pandemic.

james13v 04-02-2020 12:03 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1082002)
yes,pent up demand?
But we will all be poorer,loss of income,medical bills,margin calls.
Many are forced to sell their stocks to meet margin calls .
renters cant pay rent,landlord then cant make their mortgage payments and banks lose money.
There will be more crimes,like in 2008.

Except for all the people now getting unemployment, plus an extra $700 a week, PLUS another $1200 a month. People are literally making more money, not working. Banks are pausing mortgage payments for those landlords. Businesses are getting loans, which they don't have to pay back, if it goes towards payroll. People are wasting money on junk anymore. Just about every company is pausing bills. No waste of gas money.

And when this is all over, LESS people are going to die this year, in general, than if this virus never even happened.

phaz0rz 04-02-2020 12:09 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
I'm hungry.

james13v 04-02-2020 12:15 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1082021)
not if you live in CA and renting !
Some business may not come back,so there will be real inflation,due to supply and demand

I mean, living in California wasn't the best decision in the first place lol. Especially if you intend to do any kind of business there.

But again, the amount of "free money" the government is throwing out there...

walkingupwards 04-02-2020 02:55 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1081975)
I had one shipment picked up last night.

If you're using DHL out of HK you can expect a 10-12 day wait between the time you're given your tracking number and the time it starts showing updates.



Do you think using UPS is a better alternative for now?

trying 04-02-2020 04:07 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
For germany I would say Dhl express I’m hearing ups and fedex same delays 10-14days after you received the tracking it’s bad .

phaz0rz 04-02-2020 04:13 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 1082064)
Do you think using UPS is a better alternative for now?

I'm actually having them use UPS for the next 3pcs of my order, so we can test them out. Supplier is telling me that UPS is only taking 2 days to pickup shipments.

I'll report back when I know something.

trying 04-02-2020 04:28 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Ok great I will update as well as soon I hear any news

walkingupwards 04-02-2020 04:32 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
So with UPS business as usual? Why is DHL having delays when UPS isn't?!

walkingupwards 04-02-2020 04:35 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1082082)
https://i.postimg.cc/L6QCD9Qy/Untitled.png

This is why I decided to give UPS a try. With DHL I still have shipments from the 23rd waiting to go on a plane.



Would you please tell us when exactly was your order picked up by UPS?

james13v 04-02-2020 04:41 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1082082)
https://i.postimg.cc/L6QCD9Qy/Untitled.png

This is why I decided to give UPS a try. With DHL I still have shipments from the 23rd waiting to go on a plane.

ebay international shipping uses DHL, And they've been taking forever.

Sunspot144 04-03-2020 01:08 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Lotta stuff here saying nature is cause but wouldn't be impossible to drop a virus off at a wet market. It's bad/perfect timing to do so. It's also winter when immune systems are compromised and when most outbreaks occur...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misinf...logical_weapon

I took a class called China 2020 when they were putting a lot of emphasis on this year. My classmates and I got to spend our 2 week spring break writing a 15pg paper because regular class workload was intense :clap:

China’s leadership expected that economic growth in 2020 would be a celebratory event, marking a doubling of the economy’s size over the past decade. The new coronavirus, however, has obliterated those forecasts.

Even with a major fiscal stimulus and interest rate cuts, estimates for 2020 growth vary from 1 percent to 4 percent against the original target of 6 percent.

By contrast, the 2002–2003 economic recovery from the SARS virus was V-shaped, as China made up the entirety of its short-term losses by quickly tapping strong consumer demand in the West. China was relatively unaffected by the 2008 financial crisis, when global production and supply networks continued to function, enabling it to maintain rapid growth.

http://www.sageworldwide.com/sage_ne...s-on-the-west/


The United States and China worked together to combat the SARS and H5N1 outbreaks, but the new coronavirus has been met with finger-pointing and recrimination. (trade war currently)

Following the outbreaks of SARS and the H5N1 flu, the United States and China launched initiatives such as the Collaborative Program on Emerging and Re-emerging Infectious Diseases and a U.S.-China Health Care Forum to establish best practices and dialogue on economic and policy issues impacting global health. Then, as should be the case now, both countries recognized that there are significant opportunities to learn from each other despite their different political and economic systems.

https://carnegieendowment.org/2020/0...-war-pub-81347


World Bank warns China's growth could screech to a halt

The coronavirus pandemic's economic fallout could cause China's growth to come to a virtual standstill the World Bank warned Monday.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/74905037.cms


China Purchasing Indexes Drop to Record Lows as Epidemic Stalls Output

The official manufacturing purchasing managers index tumbled to 35.7 in February from 50 in January, indicating a deep contraction. February’s reading from the National Bureau of Statistics on Saturday was the first official data for a full month of economic activity in China since the coronavirus began affecting the economy in late January.

The index dropped to 38.8 in November 2008, when the financial crisis prompted steep losses on Wall Street and sent shockwaves through the global economy. The 50 mark separates expansion from contraction.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-p...article_inline



Covid19 is as contagious as SARS, but SARS only had 8000 cases. Current world politics and globalization has caused covid19 to explode more than it should have been able to. If this is nature it was terrible timing politically. Family friend who is a nurse of 35yrs is saying this will be around this Fall, and it's possible it can continue to reoccur like MERS until a vaccine is both developed and distributed.

walking, didn't you also say this? I recently learned that Germany was the first to alert the EU about recent alarming business deals with China.

Check out China GDP with Trump in office.

A virus released by the underground almost makes sense :lol:

https://i.imgur.com/Gbndpp4.jpg

james13v 04-03-2020 05:19 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunspot144 (Post 1082157)



The United States and China worked together to combat the SARS and H5N1 outbreaks, but the new coronavirus has been met with finger-pointing and recrimination. (trade war currently)

Following the outbreaks of SARS and the H5N1 flu, the United States and China launched initiatives such as the Collaborative Program on Emerging and Re-emerging Infectious Diseases and a U.S.-China Health Care Forum to establish best practices and dialogue on economic and policy issues impacting global health. Then, as should be the case now, both countries recognized that there are significant opportunities to learn from each other despite their different political and economic systems.

Maybe if China hadn't secretly been buying up medical equipment needed to fight the virus from every country for months, while actively lying to everyone about how bad it was, there would probably be less finger pointing at China.. Eh?

phaz0rz 04-03-2020 06:24 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
@upwards - that's not my shipment and I'm not in France. My supplier sent me that screenshot as a way of telling me I should give UPS a try for now.

Hank 04-03-2020 06:33 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
I am in Tenerife and have not had anything for over 8 semantas now. EMS would to take 14 days.

walkingupwards 04-03-2020 07:12 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
My forwarding agent is saying UPS is the fastest now with delivery time being 7-8 days to Germany.

Anyone else?

walkingupwards 04-03-2020 07:45 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1082233)
Well, yes.. me. And yankee.


Anyone else shipping to Europe =}- :canada:

walkingupwards 04-03-2020 10:46 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1082259)
I did,2 shipments,tracking shows they are in Frankfurt now,they have cleared customs.


Would you please tell me more? When was your shipment picked up and where? Where is it heading? What carrier did you use?

Sunspot144 04-03-2020 02:17 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1082198)
Maybe if China hadn't secretly been buying up medical equipment needed to fight the virus from every country for months, while actively lying to everyone about how bad it was, there would probably be less finger pointing at China.. Eh?

Were you expecting them to play fair?

james13v 04-03-2020 03:25 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunspot144 (Post 1082327)
Were you expecting them to play fair?

No? my statement never alluded to me making such a claim.

Sunspot144 04-03-2020 10:41 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1082345)
No? my statement never alluded to me making such a claim.

Are you arguing this wouldn't have gone any better if there wasn't a trade war?

james13v 04-04-2020 07:27 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunspot144 (Post 1082420)
Are you arguing this wouldn't have gone any better if there wasn't a trade war?

Your double negative confuses me. What exactly are you asking here.

phaz0rz 04-04-2020 12:05 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Death rate hit 21% for the first time.

https://i.postimg.cc/3N2StsPM/Untitled.png

My state is going into lockdown mode, they just aren't calling it a lockdown. All stores except hardware and grocery stores will be closed starting Monday. Apparently the vape store I use preemptively shut down today... which really really sucks because I was going to stock up on juice.

I'm starting to side with the guys who think it's some kind of hoax being used to take away more freedoms as painlessly, and with as little revolting, as possible. Anyone here know somebody with a confirmed case.. or somebody that has died from covid? I was reading something yesterday suggesting the tests that are being used will test positive for any kind of coronavirus.

The next few months are going to be unprecedented, and brutal. Trump is already saying he wants to make some of the changes that have taken place because of this permanent. Freaking Patriot Act 2.0.

james13v 04-04-2020 12:10 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1082521)
China was relatively unaffected by the 2008 financial crisis, when global production and supply networks continued to function, enabling it to maintain rapid growth.
------------------
2008 financial crisis affect everyone,Australia economy was hit hard due to its link to China.
Thats when racism shows,they welcome the Chinese with both arms and now they want Chinese to leave as it is taking jobs away from them.

how does that have anything to do with racism.... . Let alone the fact that the Chinese aren't a race.

phaz0rz 04-04-2020 12:13 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1082521)
2008 financial crisis affect everyone,Australia economy was hit hard due to its link to China.
Thats when racism shows,they welcome the Chinese with both arms and now they want Chinese to leave as it is taking jobs away from them.

Aussies are getting tired of the Chinese because they became aware of the Chinese government's plan to slowly take over their country by buying up all the land with CCP money. True story. :coffee:

Call it racism if you want but I think a hostile takeover is grounds to get mad.

yankee 04-04-2020 03:40 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1082554)
Death rate hit 21% for the first time.


I'm starting to side with the guys who think it's some kind of hoax being used to take away more freedoms as painlessly, and with as little revolting, as possible. Anyone here know somebody with a confirmed case.. or somebody that has died from covid? I was reading something yesterday suggesting the tests that are being used will test positive for any kind of coronavirus.

The next few months are going to be unprecedented, and brutal. Trump is already saying he wants to make some of the changes that have taken place because of this permanent. Freaking Patriot Act 2.0.

177 countrys...... I just cant imagine the whole entire world is involved in a Hoax.

james13v 04-04-2020 05:14 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1082593)
They can always refuse their money to land,houses,tours,steel,coal,lobsters,lamb,beef.
No one forces them to sell

Because the Chinese are sneaky as ****, and have been doing this over a long period of time, and no one looked enough into it. Like a frog in a pot slowly being boiled. Well, someone just threw a huge thing of hot water on them. And I'm guessing, having your medical supplies sneakily bought by a country, that is responsible for the situation you are currently in, that requires that said supplies...is quite the eye opener.

Also, selling goods is completely different than selling land and houses. Why even bother putting that into your comment?

ebaystealth1974 04-04-2020 07:58 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1082554)

I'm starting to side with the guys who think it's some kind of hoax being used to take away more freedoms as painlessly, and with as little revolting, as possible. Anyone here know somebody with a confirmed case..

Several.

Dr in my town, about 3 weeks ago. (was the first case in my county)

Two employees of my brother in law's. One of which coughed directly into his face as they were working on something together. That guy was admitted to ICU Monday, then CCU a few days later because it had damaged his heart some. He's out now, and has tested negative and doing well.

Brother in law spent 14 days in quarantine/isolation and never had any symptoms.

rsot 04-05-2020 12:12 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1082601)
Because the Chinese are sneaky as ****, and have been doing this over a long period of time, and no one looked enough into it. Like a frog in a pot slowly being boiled. Well, someone just threw a huge thing of hot water on them. And I'm guessing, having your medical supplies sneakily bought by a country, that is responsible for the situation you are currently in, that requires that said supplies...is quite the eye opener.

Also, selling goods is completely different than selling land and houses. Why even bother putting that into your comment?

China just sent a large amount of ventilators into New York State - like a 1000

phaz0rz 04-05-2020 06:47 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1082652)
It's laughable that some can! :pound:

Comedy Gold to keep us amused during this virus' season.


Glad to give you a laugh. :boink:

I didn't say that's the theory I'm going with now. This just all seems so surreal. Trying to keep an open mind here. :noidea:

phaz0rz 04-05-2020 07:20 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Right... OK.

This is how things work with me. I question everything I'm told and learn from my own experiences. I do not think certain ideas are crazy just because a government or institution has told me I shouldn't give those ideas the time of day. I'll consider any theory and do my own research. It doesn't make me crazy, stupid, or oxygen-inept. If anything it makes me a critical thinker with an open mind.

For the life of me I can't understand the holier than thou attitude that almost every UK poster here has. Think what you want of me, lol. I really couldn't give 2 sh!ts less.

ebaystealth1974 04-05-2020 08:09 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1082554)
Freaking Patriot Act 2.0.

Oh, I'm sure we'll lose some more freedoms. Haven't read into it, but I'm already seeing the libtards post articles about detention without trial.

agent006140 04-05-2020 08:17 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Some AFRICAN nations are sending police men to beat up any residents out on the streets !

agent006140 04-05-2020 08:18 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
now doctors are finding out -first symptom is not cough and high fever but EXTREME FATIGUE !


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