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| agent006140 | 04-05-2020 08:20 AM | Re: Corona Virus Have anyone heard more about the origin of this virus?
Viruses are made every day,every minute,but this one?? |
| walkingupwards | 04-05-2020 08:40 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1082729)
now doctors are finding out -first symptom is not cough and high fever but EXTREME FATIGUE ! |
That piece of HIV is doing its job then. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-05-2020 09:31 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1082742)
Extreme fatigue coupled with morbid obesity.....the US will grind to a halt any time now.
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You phucker are fat, too, now! Thanks to your love of the american fast food joints lol |
| james13v | 04-05-2020 11:33 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1082661)
China just sent a large amount of ventilators into New York State - like a 1000 | If it's anything like the other products they've sent out, I'm afraid for New York State. |
| ukjay | 04-05-2020 12:22 PM | Re: Corona Virus |
Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1082832)
| The interspecies phenomena - story about threat of endangered species being affected as well elsewhere |
| phaz0rz | 04-06-2020 07:01 AM | Re: Corona Virus Boris Johnson isn't doing so well this week :/ |
| phaz0rz | 04-06-2020 07:51 AM | Re: Corona Virus |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-06-2020 09:34 AM | Re: Corona Virus Dr Birx said we only have 50% of the test data back, so I've quit posting any graphs showing growth lol
660,000 kits aren't back yet. That's an easy 100,000 more cases, even with a mild positive rate of 15-20% |
| phaz0rz | 04-06-2020 09:37 AM | Re: Corona Virus Yeah... I realized a few weeks ago that tracking the statistics is totally without point.
Just sitting back watching the show as the world seemingly burns around us at this point.
DHL is doing much better this week though, it seems. :pop2: |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-06-2020 10:05 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1082990)
Just sitting back watching the show as the world seemingly burns around us at this point.
| Yup. It's good to see that italy peaked and is declining in both cases and deaths. At least we know that it's not going to continue to grow while were on lockdown.
Just when everyone goes back to work lol
Hopefully Summer will affect it, like it does the flu. |
| yankee | 04-06-2020 12:27 PM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 1082996)
Hopefully Summer will affect it, like it does the flu. | It seems to be doing quite well in many places this summer
Australia and Singapore as two
Quick examples. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-06-2020 12:40 PM | Re: Corona Virus Quit well as in... staying low? Or...?
Those 2 countries only have 41 and 6 deaths. Cases are falling off quickly in australia. |
| yankee | 04-06-2020 12:45 PM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 1083041)
Quit well as in... staying low? Or...?
Those 2 countries only have 41 and 6 deaths. Cases are falling off quickly in australia. | Singapore closed up like China. Reopened and had a problem. Added restriction after restriction. Opened up, had cases. Now they have an assembly rule of 4 people. It seems that no matter what they did, it did not eliminate the problem. Hong Kong is similar. |
| dan_ebay | 04-06-2020 01:29 PM | Re: Corona Virus 35 degrees every day here in the Philippines and we have a stricter lockdown (no online sales) and there's still a lot of cases, only reason there's not a lot more is because they're not testing much |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-06-2020 02:07 PM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 1083044)
Singapore closed up like China. Reopened and had a problem. |
6 deaths and 1300 total cases isn't exactly what I'd call a problem. Unless they aren't reporting correctly. |
| james13v | 04-06-2020 02:19 PM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 1083060)
6 deaths and 1300 total cases isn't exactly what I'd call a problem. Unless they aren't reporting correctly. | So they managed to have a .5% death rate? What's their secret. |
| phaz0rz | 04-06-2020 02:23 PM | Re: Corona Virus British PM has been moved to intensive care. Seems to be escalating quickly for him. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-06-2020 02:26 PM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 1083061)
So they managed to have a .5% death rate? What's their secret. |
You're smart enough to know that that's not NEARLY enough people to apply an average to.
Maybe no old folks caught it... phuck if I know. Too small of a pool... |
| walkingupwards | 04-06-2020 02:48 PM | Re: Corona Virus The solution has been announced by Bill already, he said the crisis won't end until we have a vaccine.
They are now prepping vaccine passports along with digital identification. In the future, you won't be able to go back to normal life if you're not vaccinated. |
| james13v | 04-06-2020 03:09 PM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by walkingupwards
(Post 1083069)
The solution has been announced by Bill already, he said the crisis won't end until we have a vaccine.
They are now prepping vaccine passports along with digital identification. In the future, you won't be able to go back to normal life if you're not vaccinated. | Or everyone gets it and gets over it or dies. |
| ukjay | 04-06-2020 04:03 PM | Re: Corona Virus |
| ukjay | 04-06-2020 05:01 PM | Re: Corona Virus |
Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 1083079)
Or everyone gets it and gets over it and or dies. | Natural selection then... |
| james13v | 04-07-2020 07:04 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by ukjay
(Post 1083119)
| Hey, as long as no one allows anyone from China to come to their countries, more power to them. |
| james13v | 04-07-2020 07:06 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1083216)
Natural selection then... | Pretty much. Now that's of course assuming you can't get it twice. If that happens, we are ****ed. |
| phaz0rz | 04-07-2020 07:08 AM | Re: Corona Virus Looking more and more each day like this is something that just sits dormant inside you and periodically flares back up. Like the herps.
But who the hell knows. :noidea: |
| Bigblackdog | 04-07-2020 07:11 AM | Re: Corona Virus When Spanish Flu hit 100 years ago there were the same comments made as are being made now - this will, eventually, pass and a vacination will be developed
I'm guessing the anti-vaxers will just carry on without it |
| phaz0rz | 04-07-2020 07:12 AM | Re: Corona Virus It's scientifically impossible to vaccinate against coronaviruses. Period. Not something science is capable of doing, in 2020. |
| phaz0rz | 04-07-2020 07:14 AM | Re: Corona Virus |
| Bigblackdog | 04-07-2020 07:17 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1083265)
It's scientifically impossible to vaccinate against coronaviruses. Period. Not something science is capable of doing, in 2020. | And your qualification, and the source of information for making this ridiculous statement is what exactly? |
| phaz0rz | 04-07-2020 07:31 AM | Re: Corona Virus Yeah, yeah, I'm not a doctor. But I've been studying since this started taking off in December and I've learned a few things. https://i.postimg.cc/DwyYXL33/Untitled.png
(last sentence)
I'm dumb, but I'll try to explain my reasoning for that statement. Countries have been trying (without success) to develop a vaccine for SARS-CoV since 2003. Why would we all of a sudden have the capability of developing a vaccine for SARS' older brother, SARS-CoV-2? Another good example would be MERS. It has a ~30% fatality rate, so there would definitely be incentive to develop a vaccine for it if it were possible, but that's not something we've been able to do, as of yet.
Another thing is the mutation rate. There are already dozens of mutations after a few months of circulation, with 2 known strains. With it mutating so quickly it would be impossible to predict which mutation would need to be vaccinated against for the next season. But that's irrelevant anyway, because the very nature of coronaviruses makes them impossible to vaccinate against.
EDIT: Correction - there are already thousands of mutations going around https://nextstrain.org/ncov |
| yankee | 04-07-2020 08:33 AM | Re: Corona Virus Many studies suggest this will never go away and it is a new “flu” that will be here on earth forever and ever. Who knows right? Time will tell |
| Bigblackdog | 04-07-2020 08:40 AM | Re: Corona Virus When I was a child diptheria and polio were something to be scared of, they had been around on earth for ever - when do we hear of these now. We dont because of vacination - this virus will be beaten in the same way |
| james13v | 04-07-2020 09:23 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1083266)
| False negative rates are somewhere around 30%. How many false positives are there? They don't seem to talk about such things. If you google, only false negatives come up. Why? Because a false positive is only bad for the patient, so why would anyone else care? False negatives are bad for everyone else. |
| james13v | 04-07-2020 09:27 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1083271)
Yeah, yeah, I'm not a doctor. But I've been studying since this started taking off in December and I've learned a few things. https://i.postimg.cc/DwyYXL33/Untitled.png
(last sentence)
I'm dumb, but I'll try to explain my reasoning for that statement. Countries have been trying (without success) to develop a vaccine for SARS-CoV since 2003. Why would we all of a sudden have the capability of developing a vaccine for SARS' older brother, SARS-CoV-2? Another good example would be MERS. It has a ~30% fatality rate, so there would definitely be incentive to develop a vaccine for it if it were possible, but that's not something we've been able to do, as of yet.
Another thing is the mutation rate. There are already dozens of mutations after a few months of circulation, with 2 known strains. With it mutating so quickly it would be impossible to predict which mutation would need to be vaccinated against for the next season. But that's irrelevant anyway, because the very nature of coronaviruses makes them impossible to vaccinate against.
EDIT: Correction - there are already thousands of mutations going around https://nextstrain.org/ncov | Well, at least the odds of the virus mutating in such a way that it actually becomes more lethal or contagious, aren't very high. |
| james13v | 04-07-2020 09:31 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1083290)
Smallpox has been pretty well managed, if mankind decided to tackle CV19 to achieve the same results I suspect they will.
Maybe divert the efforts being put into finding a 'cure' for AIDS into this more pressing illness.
As I've said before, something needs to thin out the population, we're heading towards standing room only at an alarming rate.
The shame with this virus is it isn't targeting the parts of the population that could do with a good cull. | as soon as covid has a fatality rate of 30%, and the majority of survivors having deep pitted scars on their face, I'm sure we would manage this virus just as well as smallpox lol
As far as population sizes. No, no we aren't heading for standing room only. It all comes down to logistics. If we really wanted to, we could double our population and still have enough resources to spare. But that would require global communism, that actually works. Look at America. We throw away half our food lol.
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