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| walkingupwards | 03-13-2020 01:20 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
This is a short-term crisis that will end as soon as targets on a hit-list are completely done with. |
| prodigyace | 03-13-2020 01:39 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Quote:
Originally Posted by walkingupwards
(Post 1076925)
This is a short-term crisis that will end as soon as targets on a hit-list are completely done with.
| Seems like a possibility, but we won't know for sure |
| james_112233 | 03-13-2020 02:46 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Quote:
Originally Posted by walkingupwards
(Post 1076925)
This is a short-term crisis that will end as soon as targets on a hit-list are completely done with.
| Hopefully that's the case.
Because i'm sitting here legitimately worried after getting the normal flu followed by bronchitis earlier this year. Can't handle round two. Not a fan of coughing up blood. |
| walkingupwards | 03-13-2020 03:22 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Trump is showing signs of shortness of breath, Trudeau is self-isolating after his wife tested positive and Bolsonaro has been targeted as well.
Who's next? Putin and Netanyahu?
Containing a virus that is four times more transmissible than the usual flu is impossible, the best defense would be complete lockdown of cities (China-wise) or full blown outbreak to help reach the level of herd immunity (which is a better option in my opinion).
Trump is a prisoner of the American government that is compromised with covert agents from top to bottom, the man is clearly sick and being given bad advice. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-13-2020 03:29 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Quote:
Originally Posted by walkingupwards
(Post 1076953)
Trump is showing signs of shortness of breath
| Just finished watching his speech and didn't notice it. Quote:
Originally Posted by walkingupwards
(Post 1076953)
Containing a virus that is four times more transmissible than the usual flu is impossible
| No it's not. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-13-2020 03:33 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Trump declares National emergency |
| walkingupwards | 03-13-2020 03:46 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 1076958)
Trump declares National emergency
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Why though? I thought COVID-19 was a joke and not something serious :laugh: |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-13-2020 04:15 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Quote:
Originally Posted by walkingupwards
(Post 1076960)
Why though? I thought COVID-19 was a joke and not something serious :laugh:
| YOU were originally acting like everyone on earth was going to die from it. THAT'S what I was downplaying. |
| ukjay | 03-13-2020 04:46 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
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Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1076950)
| And i thought you said you don't care about people passing away from this.I think you do care MR I AM. |
| james13v | 03-13-2020 05:10 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
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Originally Posted by ukjay
(Post 1076971)
And i thought you said you don't care about people passing away from this.I think you do care MR I AM.
| 20,000 kids die every single day, of starvation. only so much energy a person can put towards caring about more strangers dying. |
| kinsey | 03-13-2020 06:30 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 1076677)
Umm, just FYI, but kids barely at risk. Less than 1% were age 9 or younger. They aren't getting sick. and when they do, it's barely a cold, if they even have any symptoms at all. Many have no symptoms. If you didn't do this for the yearly flu, that's it's kinda ridiculous you're doing it now, for something less likely to happen, AND less likely do have an effect if it does happen.
| My post was a few days ago. Much more info out there now. Kids may not be affected, but still pass it on to others. We have some people around with compromised immune systems. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-13-2020 06:34 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance...searchresult=1
103 samples compared to bat SARS-related coronavirus SARSr-CoV; RaTG13 and pangolin SARSr-CoV.
The SARS-CoV-2 epidemic started in late December 2019 in Wuhan, China, and has since impacted a large portion of China and raised major global concern. Herein, we investigated the extent of molecular divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and other related coronaviruses. Although we found only 4% variability in genomic nucleotides between SARS-CoV-2 and a bat SARS-related coronavirus (SARSr-CoV; RaTG13), the difference at neutral sites was 17%, suggesting the divergence between the two viruses is much larger than previously estimated.
Our results suggest that the development of new variations in functional sites in the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of the spike seen in SARS-CoV-2 and viruses from pangolin SARSr-CoVs are likely caused by mutations and natural selection besides recombination. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00548-w
The RBD is a crucial part of coronaviruses, which allows them to latch on to and enter a cell. Even a 99% similarity between the RBDs of the two viruses is not necessarily enough to link them, says Linfa Wang, a virologist at Duke–National University of Singapore Medical School who was part of the team that found the origin of the SARS virus.
The genetic similarity should be higher than reported in these studies before the host can be identified, says Arinjay Banerjee, who studies coronaviruses at McMaster University in Hamilton, Canada. He notes that the SARS virus shared 99.8% of its genome with a civet coronavirus, which is why civets were considered the source. If pangolins are the origin of the current outbreak, says Banerjee, it is not the pangolins in these studies. |
Re: Corona Virus
French president Macron must be very careful with his milf-wife, she's in the high risk category. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-13-2020 07:17 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunspot144
(Post 1076990)
https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance...searchresult=1
103 samples compared to bat sars-related coronavirus sarsr-cov; ratg13 and pangolin sarsr-cov.
The sars-cov-2 epidemic started in late december 2019 in wuhan, china, and has since impacted a large portion of china and raised major global concern. Herein, we investigated the extent of molecular divergence between sars-cov-2 and other related coronaviruses. Although we found only 4% variability in genomic nucleotides between sars-cov-2 and a bat sars-related coronavirus (sarsr-cov; ratg13), the difference at neutral sites was 17%, suggesting the divergence between the two viruses is much larger than previously estimated.
Our results suggest that the development of new variations in functional sites in the receptor-binding domain (rbd) of the spike seen in sars-cov-2 and viruses from pangolin sarsr-covs are likely caused by mutations and natural selection besides recombination. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00548-w
the rbd is a crucial part of coronaviruses, which allows them to latch on to and enter a cell. Even a 99% similarity between the rbds of the two viruses is not necessarily enough to link them, says linfa wang, a virologist at duke–national university of singapore medical school who was part of the team that found the origin of the sars virus.
The genetic similarity should be higher than reported in these studies before the host can be identified, says arinjay banerjee, who studies coronaviruses at mcmaster university in hamilton, canada. He notes that the sars virus shared 99.8% of its genome with a civet coronavirus, which is why civets were considered the source. If pangolins are the origin of the current outbreak, says banerjee, it is not the pangolins in these studies.
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tldr??????????? |
| Sunspot144 | 03-13-2020 07:55 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
It's most likely an animal source. The difference between COVID's RBD and the bat/pangolin SARS' RBD showed it's most likely from mutation and natural selection. More evidence is when it said "the difference at neutral sites was 17%, suggesting the divergence between the two viruses is much larger than previously estimated." Don't see it being from a lab unfortunately. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-13-2020 08:23 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
If I had to guess SARS came from bats that infected civets that infected people.
wikipedia page
However, research into the origin of the 2002–2004 SARS outbreak has resulted in the discovery of many SARS-like bat coronaviruses
WHO and researchers probably start with bats then find the animal with 99%+ RBD match.
Considering how many different coronaviruses there are I doubt this needed to be developed in a lab. |
| james13v | 03-13-2020 09:35 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Quote:
Originally Posted by kinsey
(Post 1076988)
My post was a few days ago. Much more info out there now. Kids may not be affected, but still pass it on to others. We have some people around with compromised immune systems.
| And yet your post was before there was much more info out there. The flu kills people that are compromised and old too. Since this whole COVID thing started, 10-20K people have died from the flu. But that wasn't enough for you to homeschool? |
| james13v | 03-13-2020 09:36 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Quote:
Originally Posted by sax4
(Post 1076995)
French president Macron must be very careful with his milf-wife, she's in the high risk category.
| You mean his beard. |
| Sunspot144 | 03-13-2020 10:16 PM |
Re: Corona Virus
Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1077001)
there are pangolins in Africa and SE Asia.
| Yea, doesn't look to be them. 85-92% DNA match. SARS source is not known. COVID19 may never be found either. :clap: |
Re: Corona Virus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunspot144
(Post 1077017)
Yea, doesn't look to be them. 85-92% DNA match. SARS source is not known. COVID19 may never be found either. :clap:
| agent seems to be on top of all of this so just wait for info... :FF: |
| phaz0rz | 03-14-2020 07:47 AM |
Re: Corona Virus
UPDATE : 3/13/20 - cases outside of China https://i.postimg.cc/Jtwbq7Bz/3-13-2...side-china.png
Worst day yet by far. 16200 cases reported in a single day, beating China's worst outbreak day by 1100. My state declared a state of emergency and then an hour later Trump declared a federal state of emergency. I'm coughing a bit this morning.
:pry:
South Korea - 8086 (+217)
Iran - 12729 (+2654)
Italy - 17660 (+2547)
USA - 2174 (+473) |
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