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| 997turbo | 03-20-2020 09:44 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1078722)
Because like most other things from China, their data is phake. | oh yes like most other things from USA,everything is real expect the great Mr Trump,I bet you 2 can be very good racism brothers:hail: |
| 997turbo | 03-20-2020 09:47 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1078722)
Because like most other things from China, their data is phake. | I highly suggest you ask the OP to change this topic to "CHINA-VIRUS HORROR STORIES"
you can say some very science fiction hardcore shxt and we really sit love to watch your show mate. |
| walkingupwards | 03-20-2020 09:47 AM | Re: Corona Virus The end results will for sure tell us who was behind the release of this virus.
Trump signed a trade deal with China and was gearing up for the 2nd phase of it. China was on its way to enter the global stage with a world-class economy, so both countries are hurting from this economically.
What if a 3rd party is behind this? a party that is not overseen by nobody? |
| phaz0rz | 03-20-2020 09:51 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by 997turbo
(Post 1078726)
oh yes like most other things from USA,everything is real expect the great Mr Trump,I bet you 2 can be very good racism brothers:hail: | I'm not being racist. My business deals exclusively with Chinese suppliers.
I'm just calling it like I see it. It's a developing situation with tons of unknowns. I've already said I think it's manmade and didn't originate in China.
Jeez.. :bird: |
| 997turbo | 03-20-2020 09:52 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by walkingupwards
(Post 1078728)
The end results will for sure tell us who was behind the release of this virus.
Trump signed a trade deal with China and was gearing up for the 2nd phase of it. China was on its way to enter the global stage with a world-class economy, so both countries are hurting from this economically.
What if a 3rd party is behind this? a party that is not overseen by nobody? | not sure about that but I dont care what those gov think I wanne help and hopes everyone get safe out spend these hard days,people should really work together stop blame each other,look at those mid-east wars even temp suspended for now,so we should see how serious this thing is.
blame or racism should battled after this all over and we dont even care about that at all. |
| walkingupwards | 03-20-2020 10:08 AM | Re: Corona Virus @997turbo:
We know that you want to help and we appreciate it. When we talk about China, we mean the Chinese government and its communist party. Nobody is accusing the Chinese people of anything as we all know they are good people and helpless in the face of their government. |
| james13v | 03-20-2020 10:08 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1078706)
Pretty obvious to see that masks are being downplayed because there isn't enough to go around in Western countries.
| Does it matter? Unless there are masks available for everyone, of course they'd downplay it. Sure, if EVERYONE wore a mask, it would help things. But that's literally impossible. So the people that are sick, or might be sick, are the ones that should be wearing the masks that are available. Anything else is kinda pointless. And while countries like China hoard the masks for themselves, and non sick people grab them up for themselves, the people that are sick, will continue to spread the virus. A mask can prevent a sick person from spreading it, but it will not prevent a non sick person from getting it. Because human beings still have open eye balls. And we still have to eat food. This is triage 101. So until everyone that is sick or might be sick. Or hell, even until all the old people have masks, it's completely pointless for healthy young people with no symptoms, to wear masks. This is akin to bringing the horses back, while not fixing the broken barn door. |
| phaz0rz | 03-20-2020 10:11 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by 997turbo
(Post 1078727)
I highly suggest you ask the OP to change this topic to "CHINA-VIRUS HORROR STORIES"
you can say some very science fiction hardcore shxt and we really sit love to watch your show mate. | Oh come on. Be civil. I haven't attacked you personally. If you don't like the things I'm posting then refute the things I'm saying with facts and evidence. :boink: |
| 997turbo | 03-20-2020 10:15 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1078729)
I'm not being racist. My business deals exclusively with Chinese suppliers.
I'm just calling it like I see it. It's a developing situation with tons of unknowns. I've already said I think it's manmade and didn't originate in China.
Jeez.. :bird: |
ok man.
but if you don't believe anything from china gov
you shouldnt believe US gov as well
we are at today,look this video,not sure what I should say.
WHEN not spread in USA:Great china!a nice leader XI.doing well!
WHEN spreaded in USA:god damn CHINA VIRUS!!!CHINESE VIRUS!!LIED ABOUT WUHAN NUMBERS NOT SURE ITS REAL !!
=} |
| phaz0rz | 03-20-2020 10:19 AM | Re: Corona Virus You're implying it's racist to call it "china virus" (even though I've never called it that). Viruses have always been named after where they originated.
Spanish Flu
Ebola
West Nile Virus
Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever
Lyme Disease
Ross River Fever
Guinea Worm
Middle East Respiratory Syndrome
Valley Fever
Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
Norovirus
Zika Fever
Marburg Virus Disease
German Measles
Japanese Encephalitis
Lassa Fever
Legionnaire's Disease
Are all of these also instances of racism by the scientific community? |
| phaz0rz | 03-20-2020 10:21 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by 997turbo
(Post 1078740)
you shouldnt believe US gov as well
| I don't. They lie just as much (if not more) as the Chinese government. It's what governments do.
To me it's just an interesting topic to research. Trust me, I've been worried that my posts in this thread are going to get me in some kind of trouble with my suppliers. Wechat stays running on my laptop 24/7. :shocked: |
| 997turbo | 03-20-2020 10:26 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by walkingupwards
(Post 1078735)
@997turbo:
We know that you want to help and we appreciate it. When we talk about China, we mean the Chinese government and its communist party. Nobody is accusing the Chinese people of anything as we all know they are good people and helpless in the face of their government. | yes friend,thats what I trying to explain..
you see when phaz0rz said "Because like most other things from China, their data is phake. "
that abslutely true that china produce ⊗⊗⊗⊗ products and it made by people not GOV,GOV don't make those stuffs..
becuase there are many people over the world buying these and becuase we poor,so there has to be people doing the dirty job.and lot people from lots countries making profit with these stuff right?not just chinese.it has a long sale chain.its a dark industry that is very hard to destroy.
but that not means people making ⊗⊗⊗⊗ products will release ⊗⊗⊗⊗ numbers for such serious life threating situation,who will buy your ⊗⊗⊗⊗ once other countries all doomed??you would doomed yourself this way.
its very different thing to link together
personally I dont trust any numbers the CHINA GOV released expect this virus thing,its non or less correct numbers.enough to warn everyone I think,not good at all. |
| 997turbo | 03-20-2020 10:29 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1078744)
I don't. They lie just as much (if not more) as the Chinese government. It's what governments do.
To me it's just an interesting topic to research. Trust me, I've been worried that my posts in this thread are going to get me in some kind of trouble with my suppliers. Wechat stays running on my laptop 24/7. :shocked: | allright man no argues I ll stay just watch .
I hope you all well:hail: |
| james13v | 03-20-2020 10:30 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by 997turbo
(Post 1078740)
ok man.
but if you don't believe anything from china gov
you shouldnt believe US gov as well
we are at today,look this video,not sure what I should say.
WHEN not spread in USA:Great china!a nice leader XI.doing well!
WHEN spreaded in USA:god damn CHINA VIRUS!!!CHINESE VIRUS!!LIED ABOUT WUHAN NUMBERS NOT SURE ITS REAL !!
=} Xi Jinping doing a good job tackling Coronavirus, says Donald Trump - YouTube | Our country has a constitution. Yours does not. To compare our government, to the insane totalitarian pestilence your government spreads onto it's people, is insane. Our government is actually accountable to the people. It's FAR from perfect, but it's light years ahead of China's. Literally no one believes anything from the Chinese government. The whole world knows better. |
| JamesNorth101 | 03-20-2020 10:32 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 1078748)
Our country has a constitution. Yours does not. | Other than The Constitution of the People's Republic of China of course ;)
Hard to argue with the rest though. China isn't exactly transparent |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-20-2020 11:20 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1078683)
I was just talking to my supplier. I told her the government here is telling people who aren't sick that they don't need to worry about wearing masks.
She was like... "WHAT?!? That is crazy. You all need to wear masks. The government is not being honest"
:faint: |
They've been wearing masks since 2002, so I wouldn't expect anything less.
THAT SAID, if I was in a position that exposed me to the public, you can bet your ass I'd also be wearing a mask. :lol: |
Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1064144)
You guys are spending too much time selling/buying/chatting online.
It is real,800 plus numbers reported in CHina,the actual numbers should be ten times more. | Exactly my thoughts too!! They're are not telling us every thing...... I believe it's man-made!! |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-20-2020 11:30 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by 997turbo
(Post 1078721)
Data from China shows the majority of people with Covid-19 only suffer mild symptoms, then recover
| Doesn't take a genius to know that a worldwide 5% serious/critical rate means a 95% mild case rate. :lol: Just so everyone knows, the serious/critical rate in the US is currently 0.4%, with only 64 cases currently. |
| phaz0rz | 03-20-2020 11:33 AM | Re: Corona Virus There's something wonky about the map of USA cases on arcgis. https://i.postimg.cc/HscL4mQx/US-total-cases-3-20.png
They're reporting 120 recoveries in USA. If you click state by state, there aren't any states reporting recoveries - just deaths.
Then there's a random spot in the midwest with -120 active cases, somehow https://i.postimg.cc/c15HnCt2/US-rec...iscrepancy.png
They maybe grouped all recoveries for the country into one pinpoint? I don't understand why they would do that though, rather than listing recoveries with the state statistics. |
Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1078743)
You're implying it's racist to call it "china virus" (even though I've never called it that). Viruses have always been named after where they originated.
Spanish Flu
Ebola
West Nile Virus
Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever
Lyme Disease
Ross River Fever
Guinea Worm
Middle East Respiratory Syndrome
Valley Fever
Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
Norovirus
Zika Fever
Marburg Virus Disease
German Measles
Japanese Encephalitis
Lassa Fever
Legionnaire's Disease
Are all of these also instances of racism by the scientific community? | You know to these people, everything Trump says or does is bad one way or another... They don't even care about being a little bit honest at all.... |
| Toolman89 | 03-20-2020 11:44 AM | Re: Corona Virus Quote:
Originally Posted by 997turbo
(Post 1078740)
ok man.
but if you don't believe anything from china gov
you shouldnt believe US gov as well
we are at today,look this video,not sure what I should say.
WHEN not spread in USA:Great china!a nice leader XI.doing well!
WHEN spreaded in USA:god damn CHINA VIRUS!!!CHINESE VIRUS!!LIED ABOUT WUHAN NUMBERS NOT SURE ITS REAL !!
=} | It's just a tactic so that western citizens don't blame the incompetence of their own governments and they can blame shift to China. China did cover up some things but we all saw it unfolding and our governments barely reacted at all. None of them wanted to take the economic hit of closing borders in case they ended up looking stupid. It's one problem with our system.. it would've been political suicide had they made that decision and it turned out to be wrong. So instead they do nothing and wait until it's too late. Now they've screwed up worse, but because they all hesitated, including their political opponents, they've all made the same mistake and they're all in it together and therefore it isn't political suicide. |
| phaz0rz | 03-20-2020 11:45 AM | Re: Corona Virus In other news..
The death rate has been rising by at least a half percent per day for the past week. It's up to 10.22% as of the 19th.. so I expect at least 10.72% when this chart is updated with today's statistics. https://i.postimg.cc/bvwt0MLw/death-rate-3-20.png
3/19 : 10.22%
3/18 : 9.5%
3/17 : 8.81%
3/16 : 8.25%
3/15 : 7.76%
3/14 : 7.13%
Somewhat of an alarming trend, tbqh. 50% death rate within 3 months? | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:08 PM. | |
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