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Fairly sure I had it back in feb.

At the peak of it I felt like I had glass in my lungs and throat when I breathed. Couldn't lift my head without pain. Had sleep sitting up rather than lying down as the pressure of gravity on my lungs hurt.

X-Ray showed I had bronchitis as a result.

I am waiting for the antigen test kit from amazon or boots so I can confirm I recovered from covid-19.

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Recent research seems to indicate that the virus COVID-19 can persist for 1 day on cardboard as well....hmm geez

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Whoever THEY are, they're too late. Anyone with common sense is leery of their mail.

I gather mine in bags and let it set for a few days before It ouch it.

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Video is pretty nuts, right?

US/China heading towards a Cold War by 2040 (do your business with them now while you can). The stuff happening in AU scares the $hit outta me personally, testing deportation prisons, top it off with how they treat, sinicize, disappear and deport Muslims is insane. The stuff the kids are brainwashed with in school in regards to Democracy = bad too. I read Document Number 9, it's actually somewhat relieving to know Xi is worried democratic political liberalization may get out of hand. It certainly is in HK - continuous riots and protests by the youth. The ideology may just spread enough that China will have a revolution on their hands and be forced into embracing an entirely democratic state. :clap:

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Coronavirus: Trump 'considering quarantine on New York'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52079121

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that would be awesome if so.:d

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Riot videos in Hubei fighting the lockdown removed on social media by CCP

Hubei Residents Riot After Quarantine Lifted; Police Beaten With Their Own Shield


One of the comments

I WONDER HOW LONG TILL HONG KONG AND HUBEI JOIN TOGETHER... SEEMS A GOOD TIME FOR A SOCIETAL RESET... CHINESE REVOLUTION??? WHAT COUNTRIES DO YOU THINK THIS COULDN'T HAPPEN IN🤔🤔🤔... 🇺🇸

Britain's HK is returning back to China in 2047 as long as HK gets to retain its freedom. But China is encroaching on them and they are rioting back.


https://i.imgur.com/ypzI1PY.jpg

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-...xactly-planned

"the U.S. looks like they are behind the rest of the world while China has things so under control, they can offer aid to neighboring countries. But what if the game was rigged in a manner that forced the U.S. to respond as slowly as we did?

On the Chinese side, it would be very simple to make this happen. The only thing the Chinese government would need to do is manipulate the infection/death numbers coming out of the country and hope the rest of the world trusts them.

Several days ago, I spoke with a Chinese national friend of mine who I have known and worked with for more than five years. His contention was that the Chinese government knew about the virus well before December 2019 and months before the rest of the world knew about it. He said he believed that the initial response was to try and cover it up before eventually having to acknowledge it on a global scale."

https://www.livescience.com/first-ca...rus-found.html

A 55-year-old individual from Hubei province in China may have been the first person to have contracted COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus spreading across the globe. That case dates back to Nov. 17, 2019, according to the South Morning China Post.

On Dec. 27, Dr. Zhang Jixian, head of the respiratory department at Hubei Provincial Hospital, reported to health officials in China that a novel coronavirus was causing the disease; by that day, it had infected more than 180 individuals.

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Decent last two days of 9% and 4% growth. Hopefully it's the start of a trend.
2.2% serious/critical

https://i.imgur.com/zqUkaSg.png

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That's really good to see. I'm done speculating at this point - the rabbit hole is endless. Once it's known where the virus truly came from the story will be easier to piece together. Nature vs bio lab.

I do think Xi was sending a message to Trump and/or the world by building the hospital so quickly. "Look, I saw them build a hospital in very short time." He was impressed, he's into building things. Kinda coincidental.

Putting the economy on lockdown. Intentionally under-reporting or lack of ability/need to report accurate death count. Then sending aid. Makes Communism look superior to Democracy, which those flaws are showing now. Add it to the current politics between China/US it doesn't help much. And all the stuff that will be going down in 20 some odd years.

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"Strange pneumonia" in Italy as far back as November.

Part of the transcript South Morning China Post is referencing. Interview on NPR with Italian Professor Giuseppe Remuzzi.


POGGIOLI: Some question why Italy was caught off guard when the virus outbreak was revealed on February 21. Remuzzi says only now is he hearing new information from general practitioners.

REMUZZI: That they remember having seen very strange pneumonias, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even in November. It means that the virus was circulating at least in Lombardy before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China.

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/817974987


Specific quotes on South China Morning Post

“They [general practitioners] remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November,” Giuseppe Remuzzi, the director of the Mario Negri Institute for Pharmacological Research in Milan, said in an interview with the National Public Radio of the United States.

“This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China.”

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...vember-leading


Government records suggest first person infected with new disease may have been a Hubei resident aged 55, but ‘patient zero’ has yet to be confirmed

Some of the cases were likely backdated after health authorities had tested specimens taken from suspected patients.

Interviews with whistle-blowers from the medical community suggest Chinese doctors only realised they were dealing with a new disease in late December.

Accounts by other doctors seem to suggest the medical community in Wuhan became aware of the disease in late December.

According to the government data seen by the Post, a 55 year-old from Hubei province could have been the first person to have contracted Covid-19 on November 17.

Previous reports said that although doctors in the city collected samples from suspected cases in late December, they could not confirm their findings because they were bogged down by bureaucracy, such as having to get approval from the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, which could take days. They were also ordered not to disclose any information about the new disease to the public.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...se-traced-back


Sooooo.... could have originated anywhere based on the new evidence. China may be getting wrongfully blamed as the origin (2002-2003 SARS origin being China). Dunno yet.

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Anything is possible lol. but I highly doubt it. China has been hard at work creating propaganda for this for the past 4 months. If you're going to post anything from anyone, maybe best not to post from a Chinese source.

The fact that this virus spreads so quickly,one wonder if this is bred for biological warfare ?

My USPS priority shipments to Germany is same,SLUGGISH !

yes,pent up demand?
But we will all be poorer,loss of income,medical bills,margin calls.
Many are forced to sell their stocks to meet margin calls .
renters cant pay rent,landlord then cant make their mortgage payments and banks lose money.
Companies are omitting dividend,so stockholders will starve if they are counting on a dividend check !
There will be more crimes,like in 2008.

not if you live in CA and renting !
Some business may not come back,so there will be real inflation,due to supply and demand

I bet you pay less for Ebay DHL

I did,2 shipments,tracking shows they are in Frankfurt now,they have cleared customs.

On march 26 central time,my mail man picked up 2 USPS priority packages from me,they went to CHicago Intl distribution center and then flew to GERMANY,must have cleared customs yesterday,the last I heard it was leaving Frankfurt to Norderstedt.
Carrier is gold old post office,so in GERMANY it is good old Deutshe Post

Elon Musk donated some respirators,some said he got them from China

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Or it's been spreading for awhile, and we are only now becoming more aware of it. I'd be money that millions of americans have already been infected, and or were already infected.

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Only 2% growth yesterday. 3rd day in a row of a declining growth factor. (Please be a trend, please be a trend! :surrender: )

Critical/serious still hovering around 2.2%

https://i.imgur.com/drXaJV7.png

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SARS and Covid19 are pretty close on this chart. The extreme number of cases and the contagiousness doesn't add up. That says it's been around longer than previously thought.

https://i.imgur.com/VqFFpOt.jpg

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...sars-ebola-flu

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Looked it up - South Morning China Post turns out to be in HK.

There is pro-Trump news in HK right now :clap:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...-democracy-act

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4th day in a row of declining growth factor! Woohoo

Sunday was 2.3% and yesterday was 1.9%(they both round to 2 on my chart).

Serious/critical is 2.25%

https://i.imgur.com/ikDHLoc.png

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I mean, with how much everything is locked down, I'm not really surprised? I'd have been surprised if it didn't. But, now what? Can't stay locked down forever.

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I know. But hopefully every state won't overrun their hospital capacity. And can get the needed supplies in for when we do go back out into public, they are better set up to handle this mess.

It's one of the reasons so many are dying in certain places.

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I'm sure you've seen all the curve models and heard the news talk about it...