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There are somewhat more specialised departments that deal with issues like this.

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3. Draconian style lockdown ONLY for the old and sick. Everyone else goes about their lives as normal.

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That is exactly what shouldn't be happening. You can carry it for weeks without being sick and for those weeks you are spreading it.

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I thought you said the west intentionally started and spread the virus. Now you're sitting in your front porch waiting for a vaccine from the same fellas. :lol:

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And how exactly does that go against my idea?

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Oh doh! US now surpasses China, Italy confirmed cases :doh:

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Has Germany put out any propaganda? Do you call it propaganda?

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Really does boil down to ignorance and/or arrogance. Democracies are slow to rally.

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Very rough times in the USA indeed.

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BoJo (boris johnson) has now contracted Coronavirus ....

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well, Italy, duh. we only have 5 times as many people as them. China? Also duh. The fact that we know as much as we do about what's happening in China, is impressive as it is.

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Carrying on like normal if you are a carrier means you spread the virus

Say you have the virus and you go about your business as you usually would you can spend upto 2 weeks spreading that virus everywhere you go and to everyone you meet. Its not just being caught by the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions. That is exactly the sort of daft thinking that causes the virus to spread. If everyone stayed at home for 2 weeks it would all but kill the momentum of the virus. Its being with that thought process that 'I don't have it so I can go about my business as usual' that means its continuing to spread. Common sense no?

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29% growth yesterday(17,224 new cases). NOT awesome.
2.5% serious/critical
1889 recovered.

https://i.imgur.com/RKPZOxK.png

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Italy, average death age was 80. The people dying from this are the old and sick, by HUGE margins. Isolating them, is the smart thing to do. The rest of us can get sick, and then create the herd immunity.

Yeah, continue the spread. That's the whole ****ing point. Unless they create a vaccine or cure, it will still spread for many many months, unless you lock up every single god damn person on the planet. So lock up everyone for months, the spread stops. THEN WHAT? Let them out, and start all over again? everyone stays home for 2 weeks, kills the momentum. and then what? Why do you think that solves the problem exactly? It just moves the problem ahead a few weeks. 2 weeks is NOTHING. 2 months is barely anything either. isolation doesn't work, for something without a cure or vaccine, that everyone can also get. The second you return back to normal, the spread returns back to normal.

It would be extremely cheaper to lock up the old and the sick. That way, the rest of us that might get the virus, can actually be treated at a hospital and be WAY more likely to get over the virus.

How is non of this common sense exactly? What we are doing now, will destroy the economy of the entire world. There is no ifs and or buts about it. It will happen. Period. The cure is worse than the disease, in no uncertain terms.

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I think you’re missing the point of the whole flatten the curve think that’s kind of popular right now.

In Italy yes was mainly the older generation who died yes, but it was also affecting a lot of younger people they just didn’t die but they still need to go ventilators and seek hospital treatment

The point isn’t to completely stop the spread because yes it would be impossible to get everyone stay inside for two weeks the point is to make sure that the peak number of infected people at any one time is within the ability of the healthcare system of the country to cope with hence flattening the curve. There are only so many hospital beds and so many ventilators so if everyone, as you would suggest, goes out and just carry on like normal then everyone would probably get sick about the same sort of time. Again all of this is simple common sense

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This is getting downright scary. I'm getting the impression that there are more older people in the death statistics because this virus kills older people faster than it kills healthy younger people. Deaths now outnumber recoveries in the USA nearly 2 to 1.

No other country is reporting a recovery rate anywhere close to what China reported, which leads me to believe China lied in the vast majority of their "recovery" cases. Their lies are criminal because they've caused the rest of the world to have unrealistic expectations when it comes to recoveries. The number of people dying in the rest of the world is alarming, and many of those deaths could have been prevented if China had been truthful with their reporting. The "just a flu" narrative has gone on for so long because the rest of the world is just now starting to understand how deadly of a virus this really is.

Worldwide death rate is now 16%. Without China's bogus statistics, it's :
54640 recoveries, 22130 deaths, which equates to a 29% death rate.

These are just my latest thoughts and I won't be arguing with anyone today about them.

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I think its a case of both under reporting fatalities and under reporting actual infection numbers. China just stopped counting one day

I do still expect that death rate to lower as more people recover, but with so many people catching it and recovering while and not begin counted in the stats its going to be impossible to know the actual %

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I haven't read the rest of your post yet, but THIS part is completely backwards.

I'm seeing...
Recovered: 2424
Dead: 1384

Where are you getting those crazy numbers? :confused:

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Again, the old and sick, are the ones putting a strain on the healthcare system, and THEY are the ones that are already trying to be the safest. The young and healthy would be extremely more likely to get over this virus, and it would in fact be just like the normal flu. You know, 50-80K deaths in America every year.

If you protect the sick and old, you can almost prevent any of them from getting it. So everyone else being normal, ( and I'm not saying we shouldn't social distance or not wash hands or anything. People will do it now, even if you don't tell them to) we will be able to actually maintain the health industry as it is, AND not crater the freaken economy. Young and healthy get sick, and they do need medical care. But not even remotely at the same rate as the old and sick. Let the peak number of infected rise. But prevent the most at risk, from being part of those numbers.

This would be safer and cheaper. Or else this is going to last for years, and we won't have a country left to do anything with, once we fix the virus problem.

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This is 10-15x more deadly than the flu, for EVERY age group. (on average)

Outside of that, I agree with most of what you're saying.