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We have a college student IN MY TOWN freshly back from italy who is self-quarantining, at the advice of her college.

Better keep her little ass indoors! :lol:

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We(the world) should publicly shame them and ruin their "social credit score".

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I think most of you don’t realize that the numbers reported is only confirmed cases by the CDC. There is very few test kits available in the entire world. Without testing, we can have real numbers. After USA allotted billions of dollars, we expect only 75,000 test kits by the end of next week. Right now to be able to test, you have to have a direct order from a doctor and then send those kits to the CDC. It is an absolute disaster of a system. The cdc is either incredibly corrupt or incompetent to botch such a simple task they get paid billions of dollars to do.

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Deaths during Vietnam War were largely misrepresented. Same during recent bombing on US outpost in Iran, numbers were released then rereleased higher.

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Also.. hey everybody.. !

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This is shaping up to be the worst day outside of China for new confirmed cases by far. 3700 new cases added to the graph so far today. We still have 5 or 6 hours before the graph shifts to the new day so that # is still rising.

Latest data:
https://i.postimg.cc/sDYFqHB7/3-6-20...by-country.png



Also, hey sunspot. https://i.postimg.cc/JnxDp5NL/shocked.png

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I'm nicer now I come in peace lol. Fat bowls helped lmao. Missed the forum chatter and talking with yall. Can't get same experience anywhere else :dance:

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Unfortunately, there is considerable lag in these numbers. Everyone walking around WITH the shiit, unbeknownst to them. Spreading it. Then OMGZORZ!!!

Then safety precautions are taken, and the steep incline slows.

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I saw someone on the news yesterday mentioned that about 80% of people only get minor symptoms that resembles having a cold. If that's the case then I wonder how many people wouldn't even bother getting themselves tested and continue to walk around spreading it.

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Because some ppl will actually work through some "cold symptoms" - while cases are being reported....there are ppl who handle it like a normal cold and just go about their lives...

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you missing the most important point.china got everyone locked down at.home for almost a month.yes i meant everyone.everyone!

you can not do this in any democratic country as this abuslutely inftinge basic human right.
but! it super effective to against virus spreads.thats why.

dont compare those country numbers with china.not even close situation.
chinese gov cant take that big negative eco effection so they are so hardcored to stopping the spreads.we all good now in a month.yes.

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UPDATE : 3/6/20 - cases outside of China

https://i.postimg.cc/DzQTLxT2/3-6-20...side-china.png

3700 new cases reported on the 6th. Yesterday again saw the biggest single day increase in new cases outside of China.

South Korea - 7041
Iran - 4747
Italy - 4636
USA - 340

:lol: :rolleyes:

I do agree that extensive human rights violations are the reason China has been able to contain it at all, but I think it's naive to think China's numbers are honest and they've all of a sudden been able to stop the spread, after suddenly reporting 16,000 new cases in a single day. Right after that day, China started reporting only a couple hundred new daily cases. If anything, they've run out of test kits. More likely they're just lying to get the Chinese economy moving again.

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UPDATE : 3/7/20 - cases outside of China

https://i.postimg.cc/nVQkW9Mm/3-7-20...side-china.png

4000 new cases reported on the 7th. Yesterday again saw the biggest single day increase in new cases outside of China. It's looking more and more like exponential growth. It's not quite exponential but for the past week, each new day has reported significantly more cases than the last. :juggle:

South Korea - 7314 (+273)
Iran - 6566 (+1819)
Italy - 5883 (+1247)
USA - 436 (+96)

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Once it hits skid row, the local government in LA will need to start taking draconian measures to slow the spread. If they don't then LA is going to be a disaster area very soon (the Los Angeles gov't is very unlikely to do what would need to be done to slow the spread since LA is one of the most liberal places on the planet). The homeless in LA don't stand a chance and I feel like violating basic human rights (like China has been doing all along) would be the only possibly way of getting it under control once the homeless population starts spreading it. We aren't going to see Los Angeles doing anything that could be construed as violating the rights of their homeless population.. so LA could get quite messy in the coming weeks.

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This is all paranoia .it is like a normal influence or less,
the death are mostly over 80 s already compromised

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You have no way of knowing that. The media has started pushing this narrative in an attempt to keep the public from panicking. Covid-19 is a brand new virus which has never been an epidemic in the past. It behaves very differently than influenza (or influence, as you call it). It's impossible for you to compare it to any other virus. Influenza has been around for over a century. Covid-19 has been around for 4 months.

Don't post in the thread if you aren't interested. It's something I'm concerned about, so I'm posting updates as the situation progresses. I'm not paranoid and am totally sane.

If this is less severe than the regular flu, then why did China feel the need to lockdown nearly half of their population for 1+ month? Why did they feel the need to construct over a dozen new hospitals strictly for dealing with this one virus? Why has eBay decided to ban the sale of hygiene items which would be useful for viral situations? Why is covid-19 spreading exponentially to the entire planet so rapidly?

Clearly the media is saying one thing, while the actions being taken are saying another thing. It's getting old having people with no medical background or any other relevant experience telling me that this is no big deal, when the truth is that they have no idea what they're talking about and are simply acting as a mouthpiece for the news.

:fight:

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Strange you say that when you're from Italy with about 230 deaths & only 600 or so recovered. The flu doesn't have a 30% mortality rate.

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It was factual what he said though. 233 deaths, 589 "recovered" is the latest data from Italy.

233+589=822
233 deaths / 822 cases with outcomes = .283
.283 = 100 = 28.3% case fatality rate in Italy

Strangely, the case fatality rates starting to emerge from other parts of the world are proving to be dramatically different than what has been reported from China.

South Korea - 50 deaths, 118 recovered, 29.7% mortality rate
USA - 17 deaths, 8 recovered, 68% mortality rate so far in USA.
France - 11 deaths, 12 recovered, 47.8% mortality rate.
Spain - 17 deaths, 30 recovered, 36.1% mortality rate.

Many other examples as well. :nerd:

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You should know this statement isn't correct. That's not even close to why eBay decided to prohibit those listings.

Brick-and-mortar stores are all sold out of hand sanitizer, masks, bleach, disinfectant sprays, etc. eBay wanted to prevent price gouging and that's all there is to it in my opinion. I don't agree with price controls or any other communistic policies, but that's why they've done what they've done. There isn't some big problem with counterfeit hand sanitizer or Lysol and there never has been. eBay sellers wouldn't be able to find counterfeit versions of those items even if they tried.

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Its very hard to find any stock at the min here in the uk i just ordered a home shop and half was out of stock no cleaning products no toilet roll no hand wash etc.

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The statistic so far say that hit serious mostly old people with other deseases ,the issue is that it spread very quickly and many people need normal treatment all in once and there are not enough places in the hospital that's why better stay at home, the common synthom are like a normal influence and cought for some,others are not even touched

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So if its not all that bad to catch this virus.Why all the overkill about it i don't think we are being told the hole truth.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...h-more-than-70

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Young people are affected by this virus as well. Remember the Chinese doctor that tried to warn us of the virus? He was in his mid-thirties or thereabout.

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There are many people every year affected by influenza too but nobody speak abt it

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This was public information WAYY before the media started propagating fear. It's progressively worse for you, the older you are. Exponentially worse, actually.

You sure about that? lol :confused:

I don't see anyone protesting these days. I mean, you know... conspiracy theories and all. :)

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Follow these steps we will all be safe :cheer: :dance: :dance:

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Numbers are partially reflective of a countries' overall hygiene :laugh:

... I mean IRAN.

Health minister was sick on live television and the people still didn't believe him lol

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The calculation without China's statistics would be:
3799 (worldwide deaths) - 3097 (china deaths) = 702 (deaths outside china)
60693 (worldwide recovered) - 57319 (china recovered) = 3374 (recovered outside china)

702 (deaths) + 3374 (recovered) = 4076 known outcomes outside of China
702/4076 = .172
.172 x 100 = 17.2% worldwide mortality rate, excluding China's questionable numbers.

Iran is pretty low at ~9% when I checked earlier. So far they're doing better than Western countries.

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Everything I have been hearing from the news, including CDC interview has stated the mortality rate is less than 20%, as of yesterday or day before. Has this changed or are you saying it is wrong?

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It has a fatality rate that evolves daily. Nobody can say for sure what the actual fatality rate will be until all cases are resolved. I'm skeptical of the 1-3% people keep saying because the way the so-called experts are getting those numbers doesn't make sense. So I've been taking the same numbers everyone is using and doing the calculations the correct way.

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Heard that too. PM was openly sick and surrounded by associates and not quarantined. What would be done with Trump if he got sick?

Has been said before, it's spreading rapidly because it is not easy to recognize. People get infected easily/don't show symptoms or it's like the flu and can get better, but elderly and those with pre-existing conditions are not safe from it.

If it gets out of hand we will be surrounded by sick people, large majority are okay and will recover just fine, but elderly and those with pre-existing conditions can't fight it. "Experts" are predicting 40-70% of world pop will carry it in next year until a vaccine is produced. So world population as a whole will be okay, those with criteria above are not safe. Gov-issued or self-quarantine is for their benefit.

Has killed 3x as many as SARS/MERS. If it affected everyone in same way this would be what Bill Gates has been warning about, something similar to Spanish Flu. Lucky that is not entirely the case here, but still better if it did not exist at all.

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I can agree with that. Best thing they can do is make somewhat educated guesstimates. And the information from the majority of the affected areas, we cannot trust.

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I have been following this since early January. I truly believe that ALL governments are downplaying this world wide event.

Mass General predicts 8,000,000 deaths within two years.

The most concerning statistic is the recovery rate. Pence said it is above 50% great! but what about the 48% that dont recover. Persistent cough for a few months? Years? get worse? etc...

Also the fact that many reports say "recovered" people seem to remain contagious.

Last thing is the general census is, it is 6x more contagious than the 2020 strand of common flu. 6x as many people ill in the work worse is never a good thing.

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Truth.com!

My GF's company has already mandated a 21-day work from home schedule if they, or anyone they come in contact with, has traveled to any of the hotspots for this virus.

We're going on vacation this week, and I'm gonna try to talk her into working from home the next 2-3 weeks. :)

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http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-persp...-23-death-rate

In comparison to SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome) coronaviruses, which were both identified in the past 20 years, COVID-19 is likely more highly transmissible but not as deadly, the researchers noted. (SARS had a CFR of 9.6%; MERS has a CFR of 34.4%.) And unlike SARS and MERS, hospital-based outbreaks do not seem to be hallmark of COVID-19 at this time.