unique PayPal case, give me your thoughts

[johnniedoehe]

a friend of mine asked me to handle his PayPal payments on his site, he has handled around 30k in payments every month for 8 months, hes gotten limited about four times and perma limited a week ago, he sells digital goods (delivers them etc) but he gets chargedback on once out of every four transactions, his client base is a bunch of little kids who chargeback anything they buy, i need a solution to handle his payments, do you have any thoughts / suggestions pretty please

[james_112233]

There is no solution to that.

Selling digital goods ... i'm guessing it's something to do with video games ?

Is a nightmare. Your customers are a bunch of snotty little kids / teens / or adults with no ambition.

That's why digital goods are deemed high risk by paypal.

Just get selling again with a new stealth that is all you can do.

[johnniedoehe]

Originally Posted by james_112233

There is no solution to that.

Selling digital goods ... i'm guessing it's something to do with video games ?

Is a nightmare. Your customers are a bunch of snotty little kids / teens / or adults with no ambition.

That's why digital goods are deemed high risk by paypal.

Just get selling again with a new stealth that is all you can do.

thank you for your reply, but if i do that, wont paypal just see a 25% chargeback rate and get ****ed again? i would be down if it meant i would get limited in eight months, heck, even 3 months i would be happy, but he had to send business documents, id etc etc, and i cant do that for every stealth?

[agent006140]

you can send a copy first class with shipping for domestic orders if your profit can cover such.
for foreign orders,ask them to wire you or western union the money,,it is up to u.
even with domestic order,ask for money order or postal order,they can get it in supermarket (money order)

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by johnniedoehe

thank you for your reply, but if i do that, wont paypal just see a 25% chargeback rate and get ****ed again? i would be down if it meant i would get limited in eight months, heck, even 3 months i would be happy, but he had to send business documents, id etc etc, and i cant do that for every stealth?

That's the problem then, if you aren't making enough for burners so stealth accounts, docs and everything else required to have an account established asap to get selling again. Then it's probably not worth the trouble at all and just not a feasible plan to make money.

[johnniedoehe]

Originally Posted by james_112233

That's the problem then, if you aren't making enough for burners so stealth accounts, docs and everything else required to have an account established asap to get selling again. Then it's probably not worth the trouble at all and just not a feasible plan to make money.

money is not a problem, i just need directions, lots of money is being lost every day :( where would you recommend that i start? i know how to make a stealth paypal, but i need a strategy to use here

[johnniedoehe]

Originally Posted by agent006140

you can send a copy first class with shipping for domestic orders if your profit can cover such.
for foreign orders,ask them to wire you or western union the money,,it is up to u.
even with domestic order,ask for money order or postal order,they can get it in supermarket (money order)

i sell digital goods, licenses, not physical products^^

[e2free]

Does not matter what you do, any paypal will get limted in weeks not even months

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by johnniedoehe

i sell digital goods, licenses, not physical products^^

I know you sell digital products,and yo are eating INR and chargebacks because you cant prove you have shipped and delivered

[helper1u]

start accepting bitcoin and replace paypal with 2checkout it much better

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by johnniedoehe

money is not a problem, i just need directions, lots of money is being lost every day :( where would you recommend that i start? i know how to make a stealth paypal, but i need a strategy to use here

Have another go at it. But this time establish the accounts selling used books or something to establish the accounts and then go in to selling digital WHILST continuing to sell books.

It doesn't have to be books, but something that isn't high risk.

So you are selling a mix of both if that makes sense. Balancing that risk.

It's all risk / reward with these corporates. They don't care about peoples livelihoods. We are just a number on their screen.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by helper1u

start accepting bitcoin and replace paypal with 2checkout it much better

Still works for you?

[johnniedoehe]

Originally Posted by helper1u

start accepting bitcoin and replace paypal with 2checkout it much better

yes that has already been done but the issue is paypal is some easy money and id love to have it on the site :(

Originally Posted by james_112233

Have another go at it. But this time establish the accounts selling used books or something to establish the accounts and then go in to selling digital WHILST continuing to sell books.

It doesn't have to be books, but something that isn't high risk.

So you are selling a mix of both if that makes sense. Balancing that risk.

It's all risk / reward with these corporates. They don't care about peoples livelihoods. We are just a number on their screen.

i cant do this because my client has just under 1000 sales a month (25% of which are chargebacks , i cant sell 1800+ books to balance that if i could i wouldnt be in this business haha:(