Fed up With Scammers, Cases on PP

[winge00]

I have been selling email delivery items on eb, receiving payments via pp and in my (real) savings bank.

eb & PP were both stealth, EB got suspended while pp survived & it is ID verified as well (created ID).

Some of my buyers had opened cased in 6th months before 180 days buyer protection expires. I fought with PP regarding these cases but could not win.

I got fed up and left the pp account in -VE (it is about 400 in -ve), Now I have received emails from debit collection agencies.

What are my options

1. Shall I pay 400 to PP and be stress free?
2. Shall I leave things as it is, because Originally I am not liable to pay because some of the buyers scammed me,
3. I have been reading about debit collection details, they might write letters to the stealth address, things might be taken in court etc etc, if it ends in court or even before, Can they trace me from bank account number.
4. Any one who has experienced or gone through, or have knowledge of these

Please write here if not publicly, PM me

Thank you for reading

[james_112233]

Pay the fee

Why wouldn't you ?

[agent006140]

it would ding your credit

[rsot]

Originally Posted by agent006140

it would ding your credit

How do you figure this when details are all stealth (OP wrote this) ?

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by rsot

How do you figure this when details are all stealth (OP wrote this) ?

Come on!

Read the OP again. See where the funds go.....


Wind up that hamster wheel and think.

[bugmyday]

they cant do anything unless you are in us and they have your ssn also specially with stealth, there are hundreds of stealth going negative they just bear the loss but that loss is move forward to legit business increase in fees and more risky closure acc.

As long as you are not doing any fraud dont pay them.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by GreenBean

Come on!

Read the OP again. See where the funds go.....


Wind up that hamster wheel and think.

I did read:

I have been selling email delivery items on eb, receiving payments via pp and in my (real) savings bank.

eb & PP were both stealth, EB got suspended while pp survived & it is ID verified as well (created ID).

The funds do go into the real bank but unless accused of big fraud and subpoena issued, pp is unlikely to get the real info from the bank, no?

Seems like debt collection - if it happens - would go against the stealth name.

All this aside, if the 400 is causing so much stress - pay it but...e-mails from collection agencies are not considered registered contact so...it's not worrisome especially in stealth info

[winge00]

Originally Posted by james_112233

Pay the fee

Why wouldn't you ?

Thank you for your reply much appreciated
I would have paid no problems, but one side I was scammed by some idiot buyers and when took to paypal he did not do any good although all evidence of delivery etc were shown.

I got fed up and decided to leave things as it is, as originally I am not supposed to pay,

Has anyone else gone through this before or any experience, Please share here or private message me or skype me live:mcpzt8559u

[winge00]

Originally Posted by rsot

I did read:

I have been selling email delivery items on eb, receiving payments via pp and in my (real) savings bank.

eb & PP were both stealth, EB got suspended while pp survived & it is ID verified as well (created ID).

The funds do go into the real bank but unless accused of big fraud and subpoena issued, pp is unlikely to get the real info from the bank, no?

Seems like debt collection - if it happens - would go against the stealth name.

All this aside, if the 400 is causing so much stress - pay it but...e-mails from collection agencies are not considered registered contact so...it's not worrisome especially in stealth info

Hi, Thank you for replying

I am not sure in paypal eyes what is a big fraud, There are only 400 pounds in -ve and they have instructed/sold this to debt collectors. May be in their eyes even 100 pounds is enough.

All details are stealth a part from bank.

Can PP/debt collector find real bank info from a bank or they have to go through court?

Any one who works as debt collector here or know any solid knowledge about these procedures.

[bugmyday]

Originally Posted by winge00

Hi, Thank you for replying

I am not sure in paypal eyes what is a big fraud, There are only 400 pounds in -ve and they have instructed/sold this to debt collectors. May be in their eyes even 100 pounds is enough.

All details are stealth a part from bank.

Can PP/debt collector find real bank info from a bank or they have to go through court?

Any one who works as debt collector here or know any solid knowledge about these procedures.

I have read in details about negative balance stuff, as per UK i have read that paypal is not bailiff as their office is situated in Luxembourg. Apart from the scary phone calls and letter they dont have much legal power to take you to court. Specially for this amount they wont do anything let alone going to court to get your details via bank details. I had a uk stealth once with my friend bank and it went like 2k$ neg bec of fraud chargeback as i was selling gift cards it been 2 year nothing happen.

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by bugmyday

I have read in details about negative balance stuff, as per UK i have read that paypal is not bailiff as their office is situated in Luxembourg. Apart from the scary phone calls and letter they dont have much legal power to take you to court. Specially for this amount they wont do anything let alone going to court to get your details via bank details. I had a uk stealth once with my friend bank and it went like 2k$ neg bec of fraud chargeback as i was selling gift cards it been 2 year nothing happen.

And it's because they incur such losses that they keep making stealth more difficult to do.

I can only imagine how easy it must have been 5-10 years ago to make serious money just ripping off ebay and paypal via stealth.