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oompaloompa 10-22-2010 09:19 AM

I cannot understand how paypal can accept a tracking number if they are unable to find out the signature or address (at least zip ) it went to. This would be open season for scammers, SELLER scammers....I mean a seller could send tracking to themself, it shows as received but not where and who - no, something doesnt smell right about this type of tracking and the details in this thread. In the world of paypal, tracking equals everything but tracking means nothing unless it was traceable - are you sure you didnt just send it regular post?.

sbc99085 10-22-2010 09:26 AM

i sent it as an Expedited Parcels, which comes with tracking number and insurance.

the tracking information on the website only shows the Province but not the specific location.

pod 10-22-2010 09:26 AM

Tracking shows zip. And if signature name of who signed

Sending item with just a counter receipt with no address was a mistake. Hard lesson learned. Item of this value should have been done electronically so better info was vailable

rsot 10-22-2010 09:27 AM

Canada Post internally is a solid service. I am not too clear about your case - did you send WITH signature option? Most postal counters will want ID for the person to pick it up.

When you send the package you get the 16 digit code to input into Paypal - you input it and you are covered to show it was sent. Paypal will verify the dispute and see that the package was delivered - and signed for. I had this happen to me once where the buyer claimed not received - about 1.5 years ago. I showed tracking number and on Canada Post show signed for and delivered. Paypal protected me - was an eBay sale and amount was $1758.50 USD.

pod 10-22-2010 09:29 AM

This was sent inside Canada? nd you didnt get signature? Awe, dude..... Big mistake

Instead of stressing what paypal will do [they really seriously don't care] you need to get on top of this yourself. Its not easy, but I've done it before. If this was really sent to the wrong address, get on top of Canada post. Now. Every day this drags on the less likely it woks out for you. Seriously, and I cant stress this enough, nobody cares one bit about this but you.

oompaloompa 10-22-2010 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbc99085 (Post 176218)
i sent it as an Expedited Parcels, which comes with tracking number and insurance.

the tracking information on the website only shows the Province but not the specific location.

that has to be the postal services mistake. you need to tell postal service that you would lose a claim from paypal unless zip and or signature shows up soon.

Possibly buyer looked up tracking and said hey this is a glitch, I will try my luck ......

as for paypal , well province is better than nothing but I cant see them helping unless they can see where or who it went to, a little more definitively, all is not lost submit what you have and fingers crossed, they may see it is an obviously glitch in tracking and allow it.....

sbc99085 10-22-2010 10:11 AM

i sent it without the signature option..will see if canadapost can get me any confirmation

sbc99085 10-22-2010 10:29 AM

actually the receipt that i have...it shows the destination code which is the "postal code"..i guess that could help

pod 10-22-2010 10:38 AM

Its very important that you understand that with no signature counting on PayPal is a long shot

Dont sit back and hope they will help. You need to get on this yourself.

sbc99085 10-22-2010 06:11 PM

i have already submitted the tracking number and pics of the receipt to paypal. And i just called canadapost to follow up today. anything else that i should do to help myself?

thanks a lot


Quote:

Originally Posted by pod (Post 176241)
Its very important that you understand that with no signature counting on PayPal is a long shot

Dont sit back and hope they will help. You need to get on this yourself.


pod 10-22-2010 06:49 PM

Is buyer communicating at all? Does your gut tell you he really never got or is thieving?

If he's communicating its nice to have him on your side. I had a buyer go to closest post office with number and package was actually there returned by person who it was delivered to wrong

sbc99085 10-22-2010 09:43 PM

well he just told me to call canadapost to investigate the case. I asked him to go check with his local post office but he didnt reply.

sbc99085 10-22-2010 09:48 PM

anymore evidence that i could obtain?other than the pics of the receipt and tracking number?

pod 10-22-2010 09:51 PM

He's just trying to burn you. If he thought there was the slightest chance he could lose the case and not actually have item he wouldn't mind a 10 minute drive to PO. He knows he safe because he has the item in his hands.... You have done all you can. Just call CP again on Monday

Now you have to wait I'm afraid

sbc99085 10-22-2010 10:21 PM

i can only hope he is not lying. he actually did call canadapost by himself before i called and asked me to follow up with them since i am the sender. So i am the only one who can request for an investigation.

pod 10-22-2010 10:27 PM

Well, that helps. I never trust a buyer over a missing package unless they freak out thinking they are at a loss - It shows genuine concern ;)

With no signature you are not likely to win, so keep that in mind so it doesn't hurt too much. But you may get lucky, it happens

isitworththestress 10-23-2010 04:36 AM

If you have local sorting offices then call the buyers local sorting office, as you can often end up talking to the actual postman who delivered it. That is why scammer buyers do not like calling them.
Say that the buyer (Name) said they called you but you would not give any information so I would like to know what happened to the parcel I sent. That way they may say it is the first they have heard of it.
But as everyone said do it soon, as you will be surprised what postmen remember.

In reality if you can't prove they got it with online tracking then you lose.

sbc99085 10-23-2010 10:22 PM

he got the parcel earlier today...someone in his neighborhood delivered the parcel back to him..thank god...so he closed the dispute. thank you so much guys

pod 10-24-2010 06:39 AM

Great stuff. Luckily there are still a few honest folks out there.


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