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Default Now that the dust has settled, nowadays whats the best way to avoid the 21 day holds?

When opening a new account (PayPal, non ebay), how do you avoid the instant 21 day holds nowadays? It appears the only way is to have an SSN and DOB that PayPal likes, so any tips there?

Also, does a personal not have these holds? Is it just business? If not, does opening as personal than converting to a business / LLC make any difference?
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Default Re: Now that the dust has settled, nowadays whats the best way to avoid the 21 day ho

As far as I know, ALL new PayPal accounts have a 21 day hold. But those holds go away soon enough. They just want to see that you are not committing fraud.

PayPal has a legitimate problem. How do you have a system dealing with money that is open to EVERYBODY, while avoiding becoming a target for fraud? PayPal HAS TO protect themselves! It is that simple.

Simply converting an account to a business account will not remove the holds, you still need some sales history.

If you send everything right away, use tracking and do not have buyer issues, the 21 day holds go away soon enough.
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Default Re: Now that the dust has settled, nowadays whats the best way to avoid the 21 day ho

Last I knew it was five sales. No big deal. Maybe that has changed but still, not the end of the world of it was 25.
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Default Re: Now that the dust has settled, nowadays whats the best way to avoid the 21 day ho

personal vs business has no effect

5 sales + 60 days + $150 in sales
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Default Re: Now that the dust has settled, nowadays whats the best way to avoid the 21 day ho

Did the 5 from 25 sales thing change recently?

I thought it was more than 5..

Thanks.
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Default Re: Now that the dust has settled, nowadays whats the best way to avoid the 21 day ho

I was under the impression it was:

25 sales + 90 days + $250

Is that not the case?
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Default Re: Now that the dust has settled, nowadays whats the best way to avoid the 21 day ho

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I was under the impression it was:

25 sales + 90 days + $250

Is that not the case?
That is for ebay holds.
Paypal is 5 and 60 days and evidently $150.00 for NON ebay related sales.
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Default Re: Now that the dust has settled, nowadays whats the best way to avoid the 21 day ho

Yeah I'm talking Non-eBay. And everyone saying nothing has changed is wrong -- there are new accounts being created without these holds.
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Yeah I'm talking Non-eBay. And everyone saying nothing has changed is wrong -- there are new accounts being created without these holds.
Business accounts have these going on sometimes now.
http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-...relations.html
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Business accounts have these going on sometimes now.
http://www.aspkin.com/forums/paypal-...relations.html
Thanks for that post, that's what I'm talking about -- how are these people getting the monthly limit rather than the 21 day hold on new accounts?
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Thanks for that post, that's what I'm talking about -- how are these people getting the monthly limit rather than the 21 day hold on new accounts?
I think it is just on BUSINESS accounts and from what I am understanding it is somewhat standard these days.
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I think it is just on BUSINESS accounts and from what I am understanding it is somewhat standard these days.
So all new business accounts start with the $500 monthly limit?
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So all new business accounts start with the $500 monthly limit?
I hear reports of $500 to a few thousand.
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I hear reports of $500 to a few thousand.
Okay gotcha, so only personal accounts start with the 21 day hold on new accounts?
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Okay gotcha, so only personal accounts start with the 21 day hold on new accounts?
That seems to be the case as of now.
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That seems to be the case as of now.
So do you have any advice for when it asks for DOB and Last 4 of an SSN which it seems to ask on all new accounts?
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So do you have any advice for when it asks for DOB and Last 4 of an SSN which it seems to ask on all new accounts?
breakthecycle2 is most likely your best resource on help with this question.

I dont create business accounts. I use personal and turn to business only if I have to later down the road because I am only using them for paypal.

You are selling a service and keep getting scammed so need the quick withdraw or spend it before the claim is filed?
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breakthecycle2 is most likely your best resource on help with this question.

I dont create business accounts. I use personal and turn to business only if I have to later down the road because I am only using them for paypal.

You are selling a service and keep getting scammed so need the quick withdraw or spend it before the claim is filed?
I sell digital downloads for video games. They are 100% legit but this business simply attracts a high scam rate because with PayPal's terms it's easy for them to get their money back after I've given them what they paid for.
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Default Re: Now that the dust has settled, nowadays whats the best way to avoid the 21 day ho

Keep in mind in that besides the $150 in sales and 90 days, they now want you to confirm your identity by phone. If you no longer have access to the number when registering, then your account is permanently stuck with the 21 day hold. The other targets will not matter anymore.

It has happen to me. I am well over 150 days, still has the hold. I even had a $7 sale put on hold. Its not fun, but I learned my lesson for my next account.
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Keep in mind in that besides the $150 in sales and 90 days, they now want you to confirm your identity by phone. If you no longer have access to the number when registering, then your account is permanently stuck with the 21 day hold. The other targets will not matter anymore.

It has happen to me. I am well over 150 days, still has the hold. I even had a $7 sale put on hold. Its not fun, but I learned my lesson for my next account.
That is interesting. I do not have access to a single original number on any accounts I am using and have not had any issues yet. With that being said I am not opening business accounts.
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I think it is just on BUSINESS accounts and from what I am understanding it is somewhat standard these days.
This is not standard. I have made a bunch of new business stealth accounts and have not gotten any monthly limits. Some have 21 day holds, some do not.
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breakthecycle2 is most likely your best resource on help with this question.

I dont create business accounts. I use personal and turn to business only if I have to later down the road because I am only using them for paypal.

You are selling a service and keep getting scammed so need the quick withdraw or spend it before the claim is filed?

I can give you my methods, but I have not been getting any monthly limits anymore for some reason.
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