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You could be limited for selling just one single 99 cent item. It depends on your goods and your velocity, as well as other esoteric factors.

even outside eBay market.

^^^Question or statement,simo? :peace:

is a question?

Yes you can definitely be limited and be asked for the same things you would be asked as if you were selling on ebay. Chances of limitations may not be that high depending on how you use that account

PayPal let me transfer thousands per week and sometimes per day, outside of ebay on my old Business account. Chances of a limitation is high. The reason I transferred the money fast was cause I needed it to pay for the goods - I was a new to the game back then so its wise to have your own money just in case you get hit with a limitation.

Someone please PM me with this method. I went stealth today out of need and any info for me would be a big help. I am not talking about 5,10,or20 stealth accts. I only need one or two. I am low volume maybe 10 to 20 items a week with none being priced higher than about $15 to $30 at the most. I would love to NOT get a 21 day hold or my money held up. I have come to the conclusion that it will probably happen but if you know of a trick to not get an initial hold, please, please PM me.

yeah me to. Pm me to ya if anyone know the trick.

Someone please PM me with this method,thank you!

Same here all the ways i used before no longer worked and havent used pp sence would love to know ways around the hold.

I'd like to know the trick too, please PM me.

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avoid using paypal:shhh:

last 2 week, 2 paypal account has been limited. They, hold my money, then they still want limit. dun know what the hell they are thinking about. Hmm...

successsor,

I can't say for sure, but in your case, it may have nothing to do with your history. It could be politically related. If the U.S. security threat level goes up, PP being essentially a U.S. company, they start sqeezing holders of foreign accounts and U.S. accounts held by foreign people.

Even if there's no political friction between your nation and ours, there is a general assumption that maybe some no-good-nik is based in your nation with bad ideas brewing.

That's the simple version. It's really skull-achingly complicated.

PayPal is a DEAD-END....

How much money do you think they have on hold through either "21 Day Holds" or Limited accounts at any giviven time?

Even with the low intrest rates the banks are at these days, even 1% intrest on all of that money is VERY substantial. Its BRILLIANT!

At first glance that would normally appear to make sense.

But think one step deeper. They make 1% if they hold it for a year. They instantly make 2.9% every time it goes ANYWHERE.

Now if you were PP, do you want to sit on money listening to people constantly bitching, just to make 1%? When instead you can let it move around for almost 3x that amount every day over and over? You want 1% of my money once each year? Or 2.9% of my money each and every day? And then assume that if I'm working my stash nicely, tomorrows 2.9% is bigger than todays was? Then figure every time I move it, it's going to some other PP user who they can snag 2.9% off of. So far, every $100 I move, they made $5.80 right then right there. Tomorrow they make 5.80+ and the next day it is 5.80++ then 5.80+++ and so on. Instead of 1 dollar every 365 days.

Hm. In a year they make $1 or in a week they make $40.60+++++++ just on my $100 flowing. That's more than I get to keep! At the end of the year, by letting $100 of my money do its thang, they make $2111.20 - that's for each $100 that isn't stuck.

So, now tell me why PP is holding funds. And then you don't have to wonder why they are going broke with this 21 day hold puke-nonsense. If I was a shareholder, I'd burn the place down for the insurance money.

Maybe because there really *IS* a lot of risk from frauds and scams going down...

They would still be better off letting money MOVE. Somebody over there is high.

pm me tricks plz

Them mother ****ers raised the fee's without notice. Read up on it.

In my experience of this, with multiple items on a Buy it now - Paypal only hold payments until positive feedback is left. Once someone has left a positive feedback on the listing then no further holds are made.

If you are desperate not to have holds then use a stealth buying account (easy to set up dozens of these) to quickly buy one of the items, leave feedback and hey presto - no further holds on "actual" purchases.

Please note this is not a method I either use or have tried. It is based only my experience of 21 day holds and will only work on multiple item buy it now listings.

Not true. I have positive feedbacks, 100% and still get 21 day holds... Not always, but I still do. It must depend on items and $ amounts..

Sent you a PM. Thank you in anticipation.

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Hi,
Would like to know too. thanks

So is there going to be any advice on to set up paypal accounts and ebay to get around their new rules????

I hope not. Anyone who knows or learns anything useful should not post anything openly. Doing so will only kill it for everyone, with a quickness.

Haha, you beat me to it. Please do not post this "new trick" if there is one. That's exactly how the last trick got killed.

The holds don't really bother me as much, as long as you have 3 or 4 selling accounts in rotation at all times. My "money maker" items sell for around $100-$150 a pop and around $200 around Christmas time. On new accounts, once I get to around 25 DSR all holds stop altogether and I start with the money makers, but I still sell my cheapys here and there to build feedback and stay under the radar. I can usually get to 25-35 DSR in a week with my "feedback builder" items.

The key with ebay and paypal is your system. You have to have a system that is proven to work for you! Document it and do it the same way everytime on every account. Once you get it down, you shouldn't have an issue.

I play by paypal's rules and make them work for me.

Could not agree more. Trial and error gets you to where you want to be. And thats being back in control.

i see that paypal notes that it holds funds for 15 days now.. or does this vary by category??

Must vary per category. One has a 18 day hold.

TBH 21 day holds dont even apply anymore. What was said in the beginning still holds to this day. It all depends on how you raise the seller account.

Paypals website defined their holds a little more now. Im not seeing the *Have to wait three days after delivery* anymore.

The money may be released sooner if:

1. We can confirm that the item was delivered
2. Your buyer leaves positive feedback. (Applies only to eBay items.)

My observations are that the hold variables have changed relevant to changes in the T&S for paypal. Since the announcement of holding a % of funds for some accounts, matters are different.

Still the same bottom line, run the account correctly & enjoy the benefits of paypal :rolleyes:

The difference in days is because the page is on a timer now. Meaning, its still a 21 day hold. However, each passing day will lower the time left until clearing.

So is anyone given up the ol trick if so pm me

im willing to pay anyone who will pm how to set up ppal account and lift limits. I cant afford to keep trying in error :(

^^^ there is enough info on forum to help. Which step are you having trouble with exactly?

the last time i tried they would put items on 21 day hold and there was no way of getting around it partial refund no longer worked :(

So you are saying you tried to lift limits by going through their checklist - what did they ask for? What did you provide?

Then you began to get 21 day hold, on everything or random, for first time?

I dont think the two are related. Everyone gets 21 day hold on certain items, randomly or certain amounts, especially with young accounts. Stick to the issue about lifting limits, and explain exactly......did you lift limts in the end or are still trying?

its just the 21 day hold that stops me i could lift the limits and verify account etc
they put 21 day hold on every item, is there no way around the 21 day hold?

no, the 21 day hold has got nothing to do with liftng limits, the 21 day hold is just a hold on sales you have made until either 21 days or feedback is left.

so there is no way around the 21 day hold until feedback is left then? or 21 days has passed?

there is no way around the 21 day hold, just accept it and if you give good service feedback should be forthcoming, build up your dsr and they will become more infrequent. The only way to avoid is to avoid being paid by paypal - very difficult in UK

I think you are mixing up terms of 21 day hold with lifting limits, which is different (that is your sending and withdrawing limit, in UK its £1700)