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No i know the difference, there used to be a way around the 21 day hold by giving a partial refund but this no longer works so was wondering if there was a new way around this but I guess not :(

Thanks anyway

I know a great way around the 21 day hold. Ship your items fast, input tracking info into Paypal, and wait for your funds to be released. :D

^^^^^^ So that's how you do it?

Also after the items been delivered e-mail them to leave feedback as soon as they leave feedback the hold is released usually within the next few hours.

Is there ANY way around the 21 day hold at this point? I know the refund thing doesn't work, so is there any other way around it?

lol we're still talking about the 21 day hold huh...

PM me too please.

Anyway around this yet? How much feedback on bay do you need before they stop holding it?

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Does anyone have any new info on the 21 day hold?

^^^^^Yes post# 82 Lakeman

Here's another way, sell a bunch of cheap junk until you get 20 dsr's then start selling your profit bearing items, it works for me everytime.

Does ebay look differently on a buyers feeback of 20 vs a sellers feedback of 20

Yes,

I once had an account with a Feedback score of 100% of 103 TOTAL Transactions 63 of which were Buying positives for a lot of baseball cards I bought, and the other 30 for baseball cards that I sold.

I got my FIRST Negative and Neutral within 2 weeks of each other bringing my "Overall" score down to 99.1% but got suspended for Seller Non Performance because My "Seller" Feedback rating was below Standard which at the time (6 years ago) was 97%.


The Ebay rep on the Phone also told me that "Neutral" Feedback is also considered "Negative" in Ebay's eyes because "it was not a Positive EXPERIENCE for the Buyer.

That being said, if you are using the feedback for activating the "Buy it Now" option I am Fairly certain that It does not matter if the feedback is from buyers or sellers.

you mean just hanging out on ebay and surfing the site in a way before listing any items?...and what do you mean "after the 1st if you don't play there (again) you will get another hold for sure"?

i just got a new thing on my homescreen of my paypal account...its in red right above my balance...saying important new notice from paypal saying they will hold all my payments for a little while etc...etc...dont remember seeing this b4

when i click the learn more link it takes me to that page of their holds on newer accounts and the such. Am i in trouble or is this normal

I'll check my others but i dont remember seeing this b4

interesting find, probably people already know this. I had an account aging since April, just started selling on it last week, has 0 feedback. I say, what the hell, and list one of my high dollar Vero items. Sells for $250 with no hold!!

Is this because the account is over 4 months old?

Wait until you try to withdraw and then I guess we can discuss aking =)

Well withdrawing isn't really my main concern. It's just the fact that I have no holds.I'm still not planning on selling a whole lot of Vero until I at least get 5-10 feedback.

Ah ok - nice that it's working for you so far.

anyone test the hold selling vero used rather than new?

Why does adding a tracking number get the funds released faster?

My funds have only been released after I recieve feedback or 21 days, regardless of tracking info.

@Not Markkk, even that has changed for some users. 6 months ago, adding the tracking number helped with the release of funds. However paypal has changed its game and some accounts continue to have olds despite feedback being received & tracking numbers supplied.

I prefer to look at the holds on an account by account basis. Otherwise it's too exhausting trying to predict what paypal will do. bar stewards :pop2:

I think the tracking to release is getting hurt by folks manipulating it with bogus tracking. Think its being abused. Bad guys always ruin it for us

Actually... this is making me angry... But then again... when there's good, there's always the bad people AND stupid!

Yea, the holds just slow me down so much. I just to be able to move soooooo much more items without holds, but when you have $1000 pending so have no choice but to slow down. And yes, they are holding funds for the full 21 days! Really sucks.

It can be a burden some times. If I was 100% sure that I will get it, not so bad. But you get too much held back and you don't really know what will happen to it [IE Limitation] it can put on some pressure.

And the more you sell > the more held > the more stock to buy > more pressure

It can be a vicious circle at times. Great thing about the fall/winter: Great sales. Bad thing about the fall/winter: Way more risk of limits

I get a feeling this holiday season sales will be slower than last year.

UN-STICKY!

I hope not aking.. I predict things to be better then ever this year.

Let me correct my statement. Sales will be better than ever, but paypal will definitely slow me down as far as moving money.

Does anyone use Google Checkout these days? I may need to go back to my old process using GCO.

Who was the first to discover this trick? :-)

What trick, Cortex? :spy:

the 2-1 DH trick

All ears here...

^ what?........

You keep mentioning a 21 day hold trick. To my knowledge, no such trick still exists. So I'm all ears to hear whats new

Well i only mentioned it once.
Dont worry about it...what trick?

Not sure. Used to be a couple that would work, but they dont any more. So I thought maybe you had a new one.

Nah theres no new one....but i wondered who was the first to discover this trick in the first place