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[zamzam]

Originally Posted by blobby

NO we won't.

You are full of Sh*t, a gullible fool who knows SFA if you think paypal use an 'interpol' database, that doesn't even exit.

Now jog on mug.

Listen up kid, don't get to personal with me as that's the last thing you'd probably want. Just because our opinions collide doesn't give you any reason to become so harsh with your intelligence. Move on nobody has time for your drama...

[kabatzas]

Originally Posted by zamzam

Apparently the Interpol database is also being used to verify authenticity of documents, confirmed via account specialist in escalations. Not sure if that's true but if so huge upgrade...

You have some imagination...
Only driving licenses can be verified by private companies, and only if the driver provides an access code. Interpol has no information on you, and will not be given any, unless you are under investigation for a crime.

Three things appear to have changed in recent years:
1. Paypal has improved their documents verification...and can now catch a lot of forgeries. If your documents are real, there is no problem!
2. Many ISPs are now using ipv6, so your IP is tied to your computer's unique MAC address... rebooting your router will not change the identifier.
3. Paypal probably uses canvas fingerprinting, which will link 2 paypal accounts, even if you are switching user accounts in your computer.

[zamzam]

In regards to canvas fingerprinting, is there any solution to this?

[kabatzas]

Originally Posted by zamzam

In regards to canvas fingerprinting, is there any solution to this?

Of course there is... Just use virtual machines, with different OS installed.

[JHerald]

Originally Posted by kabatzas

Of course there is... Just use virtual machines, with different OS installed.

A less hardcore approach to stopping PayPal from performing canvas fingerprinting is to install an extension into Chrome or equivalent. This hinders the browser functionality required to accurately fingerprint your device to them.

It's important to remember that canvas fingerprinting isn't a verified security measure nor endorsed in their industry and therefore most likely isn't utilized on the PayPal network.

I would see it as more of an extra measure than a necessity when running a stealth account.

[muckingfuppet]

Originally Posted by blobby

If a paypal rep has 'confirmed it' they are full of sh*t.

If you believe it, you are a ret*rd.
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If you then speculate about it on a forum with no basis when people have their livings at stake? Well, simply....see you next Tuesday

Nobody should be allowed to be this nasty and personal on a public forum.

This user has a pattern of abusive behaviour which discredits him/her, which is a shame because he/her has some reasonable opinions.

[blobby]

Originally Posted by muckingfuppet

Nobody should be allowed to be this nasty and personal on a public forum.

This user has a pattern of abusive behaviour which discredits him/her, which is a shame because he/her has some reasonable opinions.

Says the mug who has been here 10 weeks. Don't like it go elsewhere.

One way or the other, whatever happens, I will ALWAYS be here.

[muckingfuppet]

Originally Posted by blobby

Says the mug who has been here 10 weeks. Don't like it go elsewhere.

One way or the other, whatever happens, I will ALWAYS be here.

What a strange, yet predictable creature you are. The more someone criticises you, the fiercer your response.

[muckingfuppet]

Originally Posted by blobby

Says the mug who has been here 10 weeks. Don't like it go elsewhere.

One way or the other, whatever happens, I will ALWAYS be here.

Please indulge me, though I understand if you can't, and you have my permission to attack me instead.

What does the length of time I've been registered to this forum have to do with understanding/acceptance of normal social responses?

As a further observation, which you may acknowledge or not as you see fit, you have been on this forum for a fraction of the time of some members whom you abuse.

[zamzam]

Originally Posted by muckingfuppet

What a strange, yet predictable creature you are. The more someone criticises you, the fiercer your response.

Well said, but there's no point in giving this kid any attention. He's had a harsh upbringing and just wants some attention.

[James Brown]

Originally Posted by kabatzas

You have some imagination...
Only driving licenses can be verified by private companies, and only if the driver provides an access code. Interpol has no information on you, and will not be given any, unless you are under investigation for a crime.

Go to the Experian website and read up on the different ways they can verify documents to prove a persons identity, in particular 'Document verification with AutoDoc-ID' which uses a simple picture of the document emailed to them for verification. There are many such companies offering these services so I think some posters on this forum need to stop insisting only government agencies and law enforcement can verify passports and driving licences.

Ok in the OP Interpol was mentioned which seems to have started a firestorm of debate Lol. However just because a paypal operative mentioned Interpol it doesn't mean they actually use them, he or she was probably just exaggerating but, never the less, they have plenty of other options at their disposal to verify any documents sent to them.

All the petty arguing and name calling going on in here over this subject would be better left in the school playground where it belongs. This is supposed to be a place for discussion not for bragging about how long people have been posting on here, as if that entitles them to act like idiots.

[zamzam]

Originally Posted by blobby

Says the mug who has been here 10 weeks. Don't like it go elsewhere.

One way or the other, whatever happens, I will ALWAYS be here.

LOL, listen up kid go back to your sloppy porridge!

Users hate your childish remarks and comments. Your better off posting on one of them arcade websites for under 12's....

[muckingfuppet]

Originally Posted by zamzam

LOL, listen up kid go back to your sloppy porridge!

Users hate your childish remarks and comments. Your better off posting on one of them arcade websites for under 12's....

Ignore him/her.

Reading the threads he/she posts in, almost every other user does. The senior members literally ignore him/her. Must have blocked them.

[opaqueninja]

Its a shame people like him are on this forum. It brings it down to the chav 'leakforums' level.

To alert the moderators use the report button on his posts - the little esclamation mark.

I fear he has had some really bad things happen to him in his life and he feels the need to be aggresive and abusive to 'be heard'. In a previous job i worked with victims of infant sexual abuse and his behaviours echoes theres - so its pribably not his direct fault he is the way he is, he needs some help and probably just some love.

[kabatzas]

Originally Posted by James Brown

Go to the Experian website and read up on the different ways they can verify documents to prove a persons identity, in particular 'Document verification with AutoDoc-ID' which uses a simple picture of the document emailed to them for verification.

Don't be paranoid!
Yes there are many companies offering document verification, but it's all about speeding up the process.
1. They try to automatically match the photo of the ID/Passport to the selfie some companies require (PayPal doesn't).
2. They use OCR (optical character reader) technology to read the text from the ID documents and Bills or Bank statements.
If the details match...you are verified fast! If they don't, you may get blocked and/or go in a list to be re-examined by a human.

Now... Experian can also do a credit check on you, BUT
1. A credit record has to exist (young people, or EU migrants, will not have one).
2. A new, previously unused address will not produce a match.
3. Credit records only go back 6 years.
4. It will only work in some countries (UK, Ireland, and USA as far as I know).
5. It is illegal to access credit records without permission. They have to ask you first!

[James Brown]

Originally Posted by kabatzas

Don't be paranoid!
Yes there are many companies offering document verification, but it's all about speeding up the process.
1. They try to automatically match the photo of the ID/Passport to the selfie some companies require (PayPal doesn't).
2. They use OCR (optical character reader) technology to read the text from the ID documents and Bills or Bank statements.
If the details match...you are verified fast! If they don't, you may get blocked and/or go in a list to be re-examined by a human.

Now... Experian can also do a credit check on you, BUT
1. A credit record has to exist (young people, or EU migrants, will not have one).
2. A new, previously unused address will not produce a match.
3. Credit records only go back 6 years.
4. It will only work in some countries (UK, Ireland, and USA as far as I know).
5. It is illegal to access credit records without permission. They have to ask you first!

Read my post properly before posting, I was referring to Experian Document Verification not credit checking. So in that case they need no permission to consult any database as customer has already willingly sent them his (or her) documents for verification. Plus I think you'll find Paypal terms and conditions state they may need to consult a credit reference agency or otherwise confirm a customers identity under the KYC rules to prevent money laundering.

In your comprehensive list above you missed out the importance of document Barcodes on utility bills and bank statements and the role they play in verification but I'm not going into details of that on here.

[kabatzas]

Originally Posted by JHerald

A less hardcore approach to stopping PayPal from performing canvas fingerprinting is to install an extension into Chrome or equivalent. This hinders the browser functionality required to accurately fingerprint your device to them.

This will work, but could be a possible red-flag placed on your account. I prefer to have a browser which appears to be normal.
This works very well for me, and I currently have PP accounts which are 6+ years old. I actually use different computers for each one. Cheap £50 used netbooks I bought from eBay. I only use them for PayPal LOL!

[kabatzas]

Originally Posted by James Brown

Read my post properly before posting, I was referring to Experian Document Verification not credit checking. So in that case they need no permission to consult any database as customer has already willingly sent them his (or her) documents for verification. Plus I think you'll find Paypal terms and conditions state they may need to consult a credit reference agency or otherwise confirm a customers identity under the KYC rules to prevent money laundering.

In your comprehensive list above you missed out the importance of document Barcodes on utility bills and bank statements and the role they play in verification but I'm not going into details of that on here.

I explained that all they do is matching the photo ID to the selfie (paypal doesn't require this), and the OCR read details to the ones provided by the user. That's all they do. They also check for known forgeries (wrong fonts is one example) and signs of photo editing (file metadata, pixel patterns, etc). If everything is OK, which will be if you are careful, the verification will go through.

I know all about the utility bill bar-codes, but they are nothing special. The one next to the address is basically the origin and destination postcodes, and sometimes there is another one (QR code) which is a website link. These should also match, as a precaution.

Bottom line is...there is no need to be paranoid, just pay attention to the detail and do things right! There are nearly 600,000 births every year in the UK, which also means the same number of new adults every year. These people will not have any address or credit history, so it is not that uncommon...is it?

[James Brown]

Originally Posted by kabatzas

This will work, but could be a possible red-flag placed on your account. I prefer to have a browser which appears to be normal.
This works very well for me, and I currently have PP accounts which are 6+ years old. I actually use different computers for each one. Cheap £50 used netbooks I bought from eBay. I only use them for PayPal LOL!

As you say, the ultimate solution is a separate computer for each stealth account. From what I read about this on google, the use of a blocking extension can draw unwanted attention to your computer. Personally I don't believe Canvas fingerprinting is much of a problem because it is virtually impossible to positively identify a user from this technique unlike flash cookies which I guess are 100% accurate. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over canvas fingerprinting or will I will regret saying that Lol.

[zamzam]

As many know, canvas fingerprinting is the most recent development in web tracking. In the past, the easiest way to prevent web tracking was to block out the method of tracking entirely.

For example, to prevent cookie tracking, you simply disable cookies in your browser.

But when it comes to canvas fingerprinting, things are not so cut-and-dry. In fact, believe it or not, trying to block or hide canvas fingerprinting can actually make you more trackable than if you weren’t. That statement defies common sense, but it’s true...

[empirestate]

Originally Posted by James Brown

As you say, the ultimate solution is a separate computer for each stealth account. From what I read about this on google, the use of a blocking extension can draw unwanted attention to your computer. Personally I don't believe Canvas fingerprinting is much of a problem because it is virtually impossible to positively identify a user from this technique unlike flash cookies which I guess are 100% accurate. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over canvas fingerprinting or will I will regret saying that Lol.

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[muckingfuppet]

Originally Posted by opaqueninja

Its a shame people like him are on this forum. It brings it down to the chav 'leakforums' level.

To alert the moderators use the report button on his posts - the little esclamation mark.

I fear he has had some really bad things happen to him in his life and he feels the need to be aggresive and abusive to 'be heard'. In a previous job i worked with victims of infant sexual abuse and his behaviours echoes theres - so its pribably not his direct fault he is the way he is, he needs some help and probably just some love.

Looks like he's been banned.

So much for "I'll always be here"

Haha