NEW EBAY VERIFICATION SUSPENSIONS- MC010 - MC169 NOTICE: eBay Registration Suspension

imjustme · #89 03-24-2010

Are you being asked to phone-verify when you're listing something? And by phone-verify I mean the one where the website calls your phone number on the account and you then type in the 4 number PIN code.

**aspkin** · #90 03-24-2010

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Originally Posted by imjustme

Nope, I'm on a DSL connection that allows me to change the IP as I wish. I can't change the first 2, but the last 2 ...such as from 123.123.10.50 to 123.123.88.20 ...so quite different. Also using different Windows accounts.

You're always with this IP range? Besides the IPs you get in the US?

Try a friend's internet service as a test.. or a coffee shop, etc. Get off your IP range.

imjustme · #91 03-24-2010

Yeah, same IP range. But I imagine there are hundreds of other eBay sellers on the same range too. It's the biggest ISP in Japan. Most internet shops would use that provider too.

imjustme · #92 03-24-2010

Right now I have it narrowed to possibly these 2 reasons:

1. eBay is cracking down on "dormant" accounts. Say you create an account and then start selling 2 or 3 months or even 1 year later.

2. eBay is cracking down on accounts that are not phone-verified. Thus they are telling you to call eBay to verify your identity.

arsgunner77 · #93 03-24-2010

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Originally Posted by imjustme

Are you being asked to phone-verify when you're listing something? And by phone-verify I mean the one where the website calls your phone number on the account and you then type in the 4 number PIN code.

whenever i make a sellers account,i have to verify by phone with the 4 digit pin,that could be it

imjustme · #94 03-24-2010

That's kind of nuts, though. I never get asked for the PIN verify, but then slapped in the face with this. This one account that got locked up a few minutes ago was created in January 2010 and never got asked for the PIN either.

imjustme · #95 03-24-2010

I just tested another account. Phone verified there and listed 3 items, with 0 feedback right now. 1 item sold already and relisted, it's still up and running. Might have nailed this down.

The funny thing is that eBay never even asked me to phone-verify the account, they just hit me with the suspension and tell me to call and then send in the ID card and bank statement. Maybe they're starting to require phone-verify on all accounts now, but are suspending the ones that were created before this was implemented and verifying them that way?

imjustme · #96 03-24-2010

Sorry for spamming this post ...but I just found another account that I listed some items on in February and it has not been molested either by eBay. Guess what? I phone verified it in January. Looks like we got this figured out.

bansheezone · #97 03-25-2010

I dont buy $2.00 items for feedback, those low priced items make it look like your building up an account in my eyes. I really like to build the accounts I use to avoid issues such as i.d verification.

I will give you so information I have been using to attack this new process.

1. Your stealth account must be as close to a real person as it can be without it being a legal issue. Why? because they use equifax to verify these accounts its all in a data base and I can go on and on on this new process but you guys need to do some homework. If I even have to I will do a background check on the name I am using just to get a little close enough info the account to be as close to a real person without being a real one, lots of people share the same name and its a possibility in the same area also, age etc..

2. Get a real land line or cell phone number, no virtual numbers anymore. Get a non gmail email address. 4 out of 5 accounts I tested get hit when google based mail is used as a registered email.

3. Make sure you have a verified Paypal before you even make a ebay account, and it must be fully verified.

3. Buy real items you need, no bull**** items that are cheap you need to make this account look like a real one and do it over a 30 day time frame, dont even list one single item as this is the most important thing possbile, browse the community, ask questions on live help, make sure you come off real, make a call to them asking a question all this activity is logged.

4. Sign up for a sellers account and make sure you give them a credit card to pay the fee's and use a debit card. Then Switch it to pay using Paypal and link the account.

5. Do not list a item, put up a classified ad. As soon as you get a fee charged to your account your marked as a seller and if its your turn for the so-called random i.d verification this is what gets you noticed. By posting a classified your not charged yet you posted up visable page that gets an item number, by this you have passed as a seller you need to let the ad run its course and pretend its a real one by even answering questions if you get any.

6. Once the ad is over post a single item, on motors is possible because they dont look on motors as hard as other categorys

7. Start off slow, after your first couple of payment un-link the Paypal from your ebay account.

8. Your going to hit with this once you list something, its clear to me that when your charged for a listing your flagged if your information doesnt show up in the equifax data base and they want to confirm who you are because your information doesnt match up, this is why stealth accounts have better getting hit with this, your ip must match the registration area also.

9. For those who need to use 11/07 accounts the same applys but never change to many things at once, first update the number and email address also the secret question to one you can answer all before making these types of accounts into a seller account. Buy, buy, buy for 30 days even if these items get undelivered your investing into an account you can use, spend $150.00 and spread it out. Create a fully verified Paypal for it also and ad it even if your going to use a merchants account with it. If you need the birthdate go to help/search/type in i.d verify/click on link/go to i.d verify and agree to the process/ next page you will be shown the birthdate for the account. Keep the old email address written down also, all the old info is important just in case. later on after say 50 sales on top on buyers feedback switch the account over to a business account and sell all you want.

To be a buyer then can give 2 ****s about your i.d, but coming soon they will be making it even harder so get as many accounts as you can ready to go and start getting buyers history on them so when your ready and its over a few months your ready to start selling.

Alot of you guys have accounts that have time on them but all of a sudden start using them for selling, think thats not going to raise a flag? I have had plently of time playing with this even with phone verified pin numbers prior to listing and they still get hit, yes I do know how to properly make account and I am one of the original people discussing this i.d verification issue since it started becoming a problem around Christmas. Alot of people are having issues with this and there is no real answers on how to beat it, but 7 out of 10 is my record at the moment, all I use is 11/07 accounts bought from Kevin.

The more info

we can get the better, keep this post alive please.

imjustme · #98 03-25-2010

Well, I'm out of ideas. Just got hit by another MC010 even with the phone number verified. Just listed 1 item then 7 minutes later got the message. What the f....

imjustme · #99 03-25-2010

Okay, this is creepy. Tried on yet another account (I have 70 accounts left from 2008 and 2009). Tried to list a garden frog statue (random item) and it got limited too with "MC010 Notice: eBay Account Limited - Verify Identity" after 7 minutes again.

I'm out of ideas. I can't even get 1 item listed now, how the f#@*(?

It seems that the more you buy, the more they will let you sell. And the more feedback you get, the less likely you are to get the account limited.

GreenBean · #**100** 03-25-2010

Has there been any other activity on the account(s)? Or have you gone from creating,aging then listing?

imjustme · #**101** 03-25-2010

Most of my accounts are like:

1. Created in 2008 or 2009.
2. Aged.
3. Bought 5-20 feedback between $5 and $20 (no 0.99 or 1.00 things)
4. Started listing 1 item (about 30 mins to 1 hour after buying)
5. Wham bam! Limited exactly 7 minutes after placing the listing.

I tried selling stickers, flower seeds, and the green garden frog. No VERO items at all.

I have one more account I forgot to mention. I bought 9 items and sold 4 items. I didn't get limited there, so I'm waiting for feedback to come in before listing more (got 1 feedback already from selling, 11 from buying). That account is still going as well.

The only other recent account that is going well would be one where I bought 21 feedback in October, then 20 feedback in November and then started listing 3 days after. I listed heavily there too, like 20 items at once. That account now has 95 feedback and never got hit with the limit.

It could be that back in November and December 2009 when I started selling, these changes were not in place yet, but from what I see there are some people that got the MC010 Account Limited message in September and October ...so I probably bypassed it that way.

What's funny, the account I listed heavily on, where I bought 41 feedback, I listed VERO items there from the start and it's still going :D

From what I see, the pattern is that the more feedback you have from items that you bought, the more they will let you list. If you have 20 feedback from items bought, you can list maybe 5-10 items. Then I think I should wait for feedback to come in, before posting some more. I think that way there won't be a limitation ..at least I hope so.

I seriously think they're weeding out the "seller only" or "starting out as sellers" accounts.

I only got limited after 1 item on accounts where I had 0 to 2 feedback.
Accounts with more feedback from item bought let me list more before being limited.
The only account (from the last 3 months back) that is still going strong is the one where I bought 21 items, then let it sit for a month, then bought another 20 items, then started selling.

So the key is probably to buy some item every few days, then leave feedback for the seller, get feedback back, buy again a few days after. Do this for maybe 1-2 months and then start listing.

GreenBean · #**102** 03-25-2010

@imjustme, from your post, I am inclined to agree.An account should have activity. Have never agreed with jumping straight into selling.

Be interesting to get input from others

imjustme · #**103** 03-25-2010

Besides the 95 feedback account, these are the aged accounts broken down that I started selling on:

(Note: The "FB" is the amount of feedback received from items I bought).

0 FB: Limited 7 minutes after 1 item listed (nothing sold).
2 FB (but 2 years old FB): Limited 7 minutes after 1 item listed (nothing sold).
8 FB: 11 items listed. 8 items sold. Limited after I listed 15 more items (single listing, 15 quantity).
10 FB: 9 items listed. 6 items sold. Not limited.
23 FB: 35 items listed. 7 items sold. Not limited.
29 FB: 11 items listed. 5 items sold. Not limited.

I have to note that, on both the 23 FB and 29 FB accounts, I bought the items for the feedback 1-2 months before I started listing.

What I can read from this is that:

All the accounts with 0 feedback, or less than 10 feedback from items bought have been limited.
All of the accounts that had 10+ feedback from items bought have not been limited.
You can't sell anything without first buying items. So basically, being a buyer before a seller.
The more you buy, the more you can list/sell without getting limited.
Even with feedback, you can't sell too much at once before receiving more feedback.

GreenBean · #**104** 03-25-2010

accounts need to have activity: by buying, using their message system,paying for items, ebay accepts the change to selling.

It's not that much different from when I first joined, age the account B4 selling. It's all a numbers racket,imo

jbluntz · #**105** 03-26-2010

Another neet thing you can do is have 1 buyer account linked to a mailbox and buy all your household items, batteries, shavers, socks, you can get just about everything but your perishable groceries. It's a great way to build feedback, it's like Christmas every day and saves alot of legwork.

aquabats · #**106** 03-27-2010

i think ebay is makign it much more difficult to sell. Got 1 accoutn suspended. account was 17 days old and i bought 10 1 usd items first. then i listed 5 electornic products and sold without any problem. then i listed a vero item and boom. Just after i sold the item, my accoutn has been limited.. but on the other hand, i am able to sell the same vero item with my 2 months old account.

I think having buyer and seller feedback first doesnt work anymore. Least for Vero items. :(

arsgunner77 · #**107** 03-27-2010

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Originally Posted by aquabats

i think ebay is makign it much more difficult to sell. Got 1 accoutn suspended. account was 17 days old and i bought 10 1 usd items first. then i listed 5 electornic products and sold without any problem. then i listed a vero item and boom. Just after i sold the item, my accoutn has been limited.. but on the other hand, i am able to sell the same vero item with my 2 months old account.

I think having buyer and seller feedback first doesnt work anymore. Least for Vero items. :(

than give up on ebay..more money for me to work!

First Edition · #**108** 03-27-2010

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Originally Posted by aquabats

i think ebay is makign it much more difficult to sell. Got 1 accoutn suspended. account was 17 days old and i bought 10 1 usd items first. then i listed 5 electornic products and sold without any problem. then i listed a vero item and boom. Just after i sold the item, my accoutn has been limited.. but on the other hand, i am able to sell the same vero item with my 2 months old account.

I think having buyer and seller feedback first doesnt work anymore. Least for Vero items. :(

I think the age, as you pointed out is a big factor. Feedback has to play a part in this. It's like GreenBean said, it's activity on the account that matters the most.

imjustme · #**109** 03-27-2010

Age doesn't seem to matter. I tested it on 2 accounts from 2008. One account had '0' feedback and I listed a green garden frog (totally non-VERO) and it got limited within 7 minutes. The other account I bought a few items first, then listed ...didn't get limited until I listed more items than I bought.

The key is probably the "buyer-before-seller" variable. If you buy 10 items, you can sell 10 items (approximately). Then wait for feedback to come in. Once you got the feedback, list more.

cardfelon · #**110** 03-27-2010

I have two accounts that were brand new with 0 fb on them and I listed 8 shirts on both of them. Sold all 8 and 1 account got 5 fb and the other got 4. Then I listed another 10 on each account with no problems. These shirts are used and not new. So far neither of the accounts have been hit with limitation. I have not purchased anything yet.