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Ebay has finally stepped their greed level up to the max!
 

So I just got an e-mail today from ebay talking about the new changes starting April 19th. I'm sure you'll all see it. I guess ebay is gonna be including shipping costs in the Final Value Fees!!! Are you freakin kidding me?! The Final Value Fees aren't high enough ALREADY?!!! **** YOU EBAY!

They're doing it because of sellers are constantly abusing the shipping fees by hiding additional price of the item there.

It used to be easy to see the shipping cost of an item before ebay changed the whole format of their site. All ebay ever does is change for the worst. Constantly fixing shyt that doesn't need to be.

Is this just for the US?

lets say you sell something for $10 and the actual shipping is $40 that you charge the buyer, you will actually be close to losing money for selling it on ebay. I am seriously asking myself why the hell am I still selling on ebay. I guess I must be completely insane.

Would they give you a label also? I dont get it.

I sometimes do the same when I am selling hard drives. I would hide some of the cost in the shipping but I cant do that anymore. Also look at the max they will charge you for Auction Style listings, the old max was $55, its not $100 even. They almost doubled it.

And they said they wanted to promoted low shipping rates, bull ****.

MAYBE I could understand them forcing sellers to charge the ACTUAL shipping cost. Maybe force the shipping calculator on every listing. But how can they collect fees on shipping which was purchased through the USPS etc? Last time I checked, ebay isn't the ****ing postal service!

I was going to ask the same. I hope it doesn't come over here. I have not had any emails saying so and there is nothing on the uk latest info bit on eb, so maybe not.

How bout ya'll state the actual email/ fees that are goin to be increased, details details details, cant start a forum with no back ground, they're increasing it, but are we getting a return? like shipping labels or something?

Here are the details.

http://announcements.ebay.com/2011/0...seller-update/

Doesn't ebay realize that this is going to back fire on them and the buyers? Instead of offering free or low shipping fees, now I have to increase my shipping fee to actually make money. How dumb, how stupid is this? What do you want from my shipping and handling fees? Ebay doesn't provide free transportation to the Post Office, ebay doesnt purchase my shipping materials for me. WTF is going on with this piece of s*** company?

hmmm, ya that shyt deff gon back fire, just goin to make ppl charge %9 more for shipping lol

They are loosing money thats why there doubling up. & they getting sued alot more.

is legally?

Am goin here

It kind of looks like they are lowering the final value fees % to offset including shipping fees in the total. I'm not standing up for eb ay, just want everyone on here feel a little better about this...I'm sure it is intended for eb ay to make more money either way.

Of course, pp has been including everything dime we get in their fees...I Hate the evil monsters!!

i know why there doing this. like i went on ebay to buy a iphone4 i seen it for $100 buy it now and $500 s/h so when that item sold ebay got fees for $100 instead of $600.

UK - I got the email today... there is a message on their site about it with the prices and changes etc. - bummer

You know... they made a rule not so long ago in uk that in certain categories there was a max you could charge for postage.... that kind of sorted the high postage problem for them (not for me as I have big heavy vogue mags costing 4 quid to post and max I can charge is 2.75 - some hairbrained idea eb staff), so I personally feel eb is pulling a fast one (another hairbrained idea) and trying to recuperate (thanks spellchecker) the money they have lost due to loss of sellers due to their many rules - a lot of big seller have been banned and they bought big money in......

In my simple brain it makes no sense and it sounds illegal in what they are doing - ie. charging fees on postage!

Its all crazy out there... just gotta keep playing the game I suppose and keep some cash saved for a rainy day

15% is very high. In Argentina only pay 7% including feed

Place a cap on certain categories, but do not f up my sales because some idiot is charging too much on shipping. Warn them or something, but this is ridiculous. There's a reason why it is called shipping and handling. God!!!

ehh I was just browsing some cameras today and came across this listing. These are the type of sellers that make it really hard for the honest sellers. Check out his shipping cost. What a douche!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-EOS-500D-R...item230f29fac7

yes agreed what a douche lol

suprised ebay hasnt already pulled him to be honest.

Except if you do this, eBay will smack their policy strike hammer on you sooner or later.

Maybe they are doing it because society has finally gotten so stupid and lazy, that figuring out the total for an order that is almost magically being shipped to their doorstep, is too hard of a task to complete with success. We all know how hard it is to add. Especially when 95% of all humans are complete morons. Sorry but i'm starting to lose all faith in everything. The world is going to sh*t, and so is ebay. Nothing ever changes for the better. I'm done ranting now.

So when I charge shipping and handling....more specifically handling fee....i'm going to get charged a fee from not only pp but ebay now. So my handling fee gets a fee right back just for its existence...jesus imaging trying to explain this to a tax expert. On top of that it looks like new sellers or no selling history sellers funds from sales are going to be held for an unmentioned time as well by looking at the letter.

Its one thing to hide behind the "we are a money transfer service" like paypal does when it comes to their excuse for taking a bite out of the funds but its another to flat out tax a shipping fee and a handling fee.....get your ducks in a row in another fashion ebay... I thought ebay was keeping out of wack shipping cost under wraps by letting buyers DSR ratings impact pretty much your survival on ebay?? Shipping too high equals trigger of the ebay system now resulting in suspension...

I am waiting for them to come out with the "oh prices are being raised because fuel cost". I know it makes no sense, but in corporate diagram world this ship fvf tax looked good to someone's boss so they can keep their job for another 12 months and get a bonus.

I'm very dissapointed to know that this became a trend just a few months ago. I remember I started doing the $1.00 buy it now and $??? under shipping costs about 2.5 years ago. It was only me and a FEW others that were doing it this way to save on final value fees, so it was unnoticeable.

Then about 2 years later came the idiot followers since they finally figured out the trick doing the same thing so now everyone has joined in on the trend. Which then affects ALL of us now due to the wagon riders who finally figured things out but making it look so obvious.

Good thing I have another trick that I also used to do and not many people know about which is to agree on a total price via email, set up the auction with a buy it now of $5.00(let's say) and tell him to buy it now, then update the invoice to the amount you and the buyer agreed upon. This usually always works, specially if you offer the seller a discount for doing it this way which is a win/win situation for the seller and buyer. :ranger:


Thank me later.

well not exactly. they dont hold it for any time limit. its a 21 day hold but there are ways to get it sooner then the holds on paypal. i made a post about it and they came from the message boards and have ebay rep responses.

here is the link
http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...dsr-april.html

steve

Well, Sellers who try to Hide Profits in "Handling" costs, will no longer be able to do that for free they will now have to pay Ebay a little piece of that Kind of like the Mob,,,

Look at it this way, If you ever sold items with "Free Shipping" as I ALWAYS do you are really paying the Fee on the Shipping, Lets face it the cost of the Shipping is figured into the Price of the Product, so it is really the same thing.

At the end of the Day Sellers will have NO Choice but to pass the Extra costs on to the Buyers, there will be a Bit of turmoil until this whole thing "Shakes Out" but there is No other way,,,,The Buyers will ultimately Pay, one way or another

Are eBay and Paypal Committing MAIL FRAUD???
 

I know this is an old thread, but I'm going to say it anyway . . .

Since eBay is now charging Final Value Fees on Shipping, and my shipping is done at the US Post Office, does this fee on shipping thing constitute a form of Mail Fraud?

I just found something interesting. According to Wikipedia, under the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act Paypal is a FINANCIAL INSTITUTION.

Since their Final Value Fee is a form of fraud against those who use the US Postal Service to deliver their products because the money they collect does not go to the US Postal Service, does this now mean that eBay and Paypal are committing mail fraud under a higher level? In other words, since the mail fraud laws have specific higher penalties for FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, does this now mean that eBay and/or Paypal are guilty to the level of $1 million dollars and/or 30 years in prison?

Keep in mind, the mail fraud statutes are PER INCIDENT!

(I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see the CEO of Paypal in handcuffs, somehow ending up on the bad side of a perp-walk on my 6 o'clock news channel!)

Why would that be fraud? they are just collecting fees on the total amount you get from the auction/listing.

The rules are what they are. To just try and find something to "bring them down" ISNT going to happen so just live with it and go on like we all have to.

Not trying to hound you but its just wasted energy to even complain at this point.

(kind of like me wasting my time to post this when we already know this.) lol