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3 paypal accounts limited ???????
 

Hi just had 3 accounts restricted by Paypal but ebay is ok. The accounts were bought accounts and been great for a year with no issues. There is no option to review them. The new paypal agreement states that paypal are now using a 3rd party to examine accounts and using credit agencies to check identity.
Has anyone else come across this?
I managed the accounts and always used different IP;s for each separate account on different user accounts.
Any more thoughts on this please.
Moxy

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You are not alone. Same problem, 2 accounts down no Reason. But it seems to be the issue with ID Docs. Call them up and keep us updated.!

Good Luck.

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No bothered about the £300 in the accounts but need another account and am concerned that paypal will continue to scrutinise accounts. My seller on this forum is looking into this and said he will no longer sell accounts until its sorted. Im nervous of buying another account incase this is to become a regular occurance. Can any other sellers give me some further reassurance or advice.

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Your right foxtrom whats your next plan option?
i really need an account, am beside myself.
Thought was playing it by the book having 3 accounts. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I noticed your post earlier. Are you going to contact Paypal or have you already?

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Did you perhaps receive funds outside of ebays platform?

Can you also elaborate as to why you assume its the documents that caused your year old accounts to get limited?

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No Bunneh i didnt. Everything was fine.

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Okay, what makes you say its the docs?

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i think the documents that caused my year old accounts to get limited is because i contacted the seller on this forum and thats what he thinks. He said he is not going to sell any more until its resumed. He informed of the last paragraph on new paypal user agreement. Foxtrom also had exactly same problem.

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Apparently a 3rd party company can scan documents with 99% accuracy and also experian are also checking accounts for credit history.

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I suspect its the documents because;
1. Thats what the limitiation states when you log in.
2. Why would they close all the accounts at the same time.
3. I've heard paypal has new and strict tactics in place to detect information.

@ Moxy, alot to try to be honest. Perhaps Amazon or New Accounts altogether, its very hard to predict their next more.

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Paypal wont openly say it was the docs that got you limited. They are usually VERY vague.
Accounts can also all be closed at the same time if they were linked some way or another.
For example you could have added a VCC that was in a bad batch etc.

Also these new paypal ways that they detect info is only in effect next year.

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They havnt told me anything im going to call them tomorrow. It wasnt an ip link as i log each ip and hadnt used the other 2 accounts for about a week. Also not vcc.
Bunneh did you get my email i sent you. tried messaging but had my quota. interested in chatting about your accounts.
Many Thanks

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Well have you tried to contact them? I did and I was told to wait 10 Days!!

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nope sorry no message from you x

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10 days for them to look at your account?
did you submit anything?

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@ Bunneh
When I called the first time, I was told it might have been an error, and I would receive a call back from them within 24hrs which I didn't receive so I called again and I was told it will take upto 10days!! that the account is under review.

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Will contact them myself tomorrow and let you know but looks like all 3 are toast !!!!
GUTTED.
Bunneh can you message me so we can chat about accounts.
Foxtrom keep me informed- in same boat i think.
think 10 days is just to apease you no intention of getting back to you or myself.
God what a battle just to earn an honest buck !!!!!
Thanks so much everyone this site is invaluable.
Moxy

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10 days....you wont hear back from them on that. Probably receive a parting ways email or something similar

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So what would you advise? End all my active listings and say goodbye to my ebay and paypal account? I have £300 still stuck with paypal.

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Money should be released to you after 180 days.

Bare in mind this is not guaranteed though.

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I Guess I will only leave a few pounds every single time just incase. one minute you're in bussiness the next minute you're out.

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Contacted Paypal today and told to upload id docs. I did this and was told they would get back to me in 24hrs.
3 Hours later this happens :
Dear ---------

Important information:

We regret to inform you that we're initiating the closure of your PayPal
account. This measure is necessary to protect us from potential financial
losses.

Your right to appeal:

We always perform a thorough investigation before deciding to initiate the
closure of an account. However, we appreciate that from time to time
misunderstandings can happen. If you wish, you can appeal our decision.
Just get in touch with us and let us know. To do so, log in to your PayPal
account and click 'Contact' at the bottom of the page. Select 'Managing My
Account' as the topic and 'My account is limited' as the sub-topic, then
send your message.

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Any idea what may have caused then to look closely at your account moxy?

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I bet that most of us had this reason for getting limited:

"Why is my account access limited?

Your account access has been limited for the following reason(s):

16 Nov 2014: We need to confirm some of your account information. Please update your profile with your current address and provide some documentation to help confirm your identity"

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I am in the same boat. I refunded my ebay buyers and apologised. Wish there was a good alternative to paypal in the UK

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Any idea what caused your Blonde?

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Just been on the phone with paypal. And She had to break down the sad news to me. Here's what she said;
Me: I still cannot access my account, please inform me of the status.
Her;
Unfortunately your account has been limited forever, not for 10 years but forever.
Me: What happened? Why was it limited? No reason was given, are you able to tell me?
Her: Only the frauds department can answer that....
Me;
What about the funds in my account?
Her: We can release the fund to you if you submit a coloured passport.
Me: Does that mean I stand a chance of getting my account back aswell?
Her: Yes if we can see all the four coners of the passport.
Me: Okay I will get those to you.
Her Goodbye Sir.
She was very eager to hangup on me before I had to say what I wanted to say.

Dooms day :faint:

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Looks like its toast foxtrom same as mine !!!!
You going to get another stealth?

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Ofcourse........ Initiate next level of Stealth:behindsofa:

Unless you have a better plan (;

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wish i did mate - im going to wait till january before i buy another account just to see what happens with this documents situation.
Good luck keep me informed if you have any developments or come up with a master plan

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Were any of these BUSINESS accounts, or just personal?

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Also, don't freak out - yet. We have seen problems like this come up before only to die down, or other reasons are revealed for the accounts being closed.

And before anyone says, it is easy for Jeffweico to say that, HE is in the US - whatever starts in the UK comes here and vice-versa. So, we would all likely be in the same boat.

This could be real. If it IS real, it could stick, or it could be an experiment.

My immediate thought is that sometimes, younger people especially, are not in the credit system yet. Usually, files are created when people start applying for credit. Of course, that assumes they are using the credit databases.

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Ebay bussiness account. PayPal was normal.

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Get several stealths.

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What is next level of Stealth? Other than finding real people ie family and friends whom no doubt we have used and blown out anyway at some point I think Stealth is doomed for Uk anyway.

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Nope, stealthers just pick themselves up and move on! Wherever in the world they are, there is not enough of a difference to the basics of it to mean it would just be over in the UK either, someone will come up with the necessary steps to get over next years big changes in document authenticity as well just like they always do

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I admire your optimism.

I've been doing stealth for nearly 6 years and I cannot see anyway round these checks. We're not talking here about getting better at our submitted artwork. This is a whole new level of identity checking.

Let's say you open a stealth account in the details:

John Smith
2 High Street
London

You then verify the account with a Halifax bank current account.

Paypal will run a bureau check on John Smith at that address and they will be looking to find a search entry from Halifax PLC. As the account is stealth there won't be any search data for John Smith and the account will then no doubt be limited with a request for Photo ID and bank statement.

The photo ID will then be scanned by software that is designed to detect forged documents with about 99% accuracy.

The companies that are getting involved with Paypal are at the front line in creating fraud prevention measures for banks and financial institutions.

The update to the Paypal Privacy Policy outlines what companies are being used and what they are going to be used for.

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This is not looking good at all, just as i found this forum :(

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So what are you saying that everyone is just going to hold their hands up and say that's it we are done we can't go any further! This hasn't appeared overnight, there has been plenty of warning about it coming, what is the point of this forum if it can't come up with some workable options difficult though it's obviously going to be, and that's not to mention the UK account sellers still selling away and upping their marketing campaigns to get more people purchasing their UK accounts!

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I 100% respect what you are saying as an expert and as someone who has helped me many times now.

Just two points if I may, if nothing else but to bring some hope.

I have worked in a few Banks years ago and I have checked identities myself as I have opened Bank Accounts for customers and much more.

In the example below, it is possible that there may be no search entry at the address of a Halifax account being opened. For the simple reason that the account may have been opened at a previous address, and the person may have moved previously. Of course Halifax may make searches later on but that is not certain.

Regarding the photo ID that is very interesting.

We are talking about scanned documents of varying quality. It may or may not be possible, but my guess this method of checking will not be an exact science and errors will be made. I have been responsible for checking real documents in the past, but scanned images? Surely that depends on the quality of the scanner and other variables.

I am no expert like you but I think there is more to this such as Paypal using risk models as well as these methods we are now witnessing. I bet Paypal take into account all kinds of factors such as sales volume, risk, etc etc

Only time will tell, but I would like to have some kind of optimism.