| | | fernendo | 03-15-2020 03:25 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by dishmachine
(Post 1077418)
Probably Gumtree or similar. Apparently we’re jealous because he is making money. He’d be drying his eyes if he saw many of our turnover figures. | Turnover isn't profit you could have 2 billion pound turnover and no profit. But I'm sure you are no doubt the worlds best ebay seller which is why you have to brag about it on this forum and we all congratulate you for it.
I know you aren't making any money because if you were you wouldn't be so butt hurt by a few returns. I get returns all the time but I don't give a ****.
I rekon dishmachines day job is a dish washer. Don't give up your day job mate your profit margins on ebay are so thin the returns will bankrupt you if you do. |
| fernendo | 03-15-2020 03:26 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1077344)
where did OP say he resells these phone off internet? | I didn't say. I sell them to companies that purchase electronics (I don't put put them back on ebay that was one of many assumptions made in this thread) |
| fernendo | 03-15-2020 03:27 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by dishmachine
(Post 1077418)
Probably Gumtree or similar. Apparently we’re jealous because he is making money. He’d be drying his eyes if he saw many of our turnover figures. | Nope not gumtree or similar guess again. |
| fernendo | 03-15-2020 03:33 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1077313)
He’s a bull$hitter. He claims to negotiate with the sellers to avoid issues but there’s clearly those who won’t play his little game and so he goes to dispute. Now it’s hopefully going to backfire.
You are also right about him not selling online, more bollocks.
Cherry picking those posters who say what he wants to hear is also a giveaway that they operate double standards as a buyer compared to a seller.
The final give away of the serial scammer is their need to return to threads and defend themselves whenever a negative post is made. They are uncomfortable with the truth, even on an anonymous forum.
Watch, they’ll reply.... :pop2: | Actually scammers take your money and then block you they don't sit around to discuss the price of fish and they don't give a **** about justifying their actions as all they want is money.
I don't sell in online marketplaces I sell to private companies. If you don't believe me I couldn't give 2 ****s. Yeah you're right I must be bull****ting we all know it's impossible to sell anywhere other than online marketplaces.
I cherry pick posters that actually have useful input. If you don't like what I'm doing maybe don't comment? Commenting on a topic with nothing useful to add is the definition of a troll. They often won't even bother reading a reply they will skip over it and call it "tosh" because it's all about trolling not about facts and truth. I'm breaking the golden rule of don't feed the trolls.
You don't see me jumping on threads saying "oh hi I hate this thread it's tosh it's all bull****" because I have better things to do with my time.
The final giveaway of internet trolls is they will always defend their position no matter how weak or without evidence it gets. Watch they'll reply. |
| agent006140 | 03-15-2020 04:34 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? well,good for you,if you have companies who will buy from you,sounds like a lucrative business.
they will resell them to buyers who then sell them on their website or ebay .
if you know what you are doing,you can do quite well buying on ebay and reselling them on ebay or other sites or in your own brick and mortar stores.
I know a guy who buys watches on EBay,character watches like Mickey Mouse watch,fit it with a brand new leather band from ALiexpress and resell them to parents who want to give their kids a MICKEY Mouse watch. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-15-2020 04:49 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by fernendo
(Post 1077477)
I didn't say. I sell them to companies that purchase electronics (I don't put put them back on ebay that was one of many assumptions made in this thread) | I sometimes buy $40,000-$50,000 a month on eBay, and return any damn thing that is significantly not as described. Such as you have explained.
Nothing has ever happened to my buying account, but I don't return as much as you seem to.
Try to find better sellers, or request more pictures from them. And communicate your concerns with them before the purchase. |
| fernendo | 03-15-2020 05:04 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 1077516)
I sometimes buy $40,000-$50,000 a month on eBay, and return any damn thing that is significantly not as described. Such as you have explained.
Nothing has ever happened to my buying account, but I don't return as much as you seem to.
Try to find better sellers, or request more pictures from them. And communicate your concerns with them before the purchase. | Thanks for your reply your comments have been noted I will review my buying process to try and avoid these issues. |
| LOMBOK | 03-16-2020 03:44 AM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 1077516)
Try to find better sellers, or request more pictures from them. And communicate your concerns with them before the purchase. | That is excellent advice. I am sure if the OP does this they will have far fewer problems with their purchases. |
| fernendo | 03-16-2020 01:13 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by LOMBOK
(Post 1077595)
That is excellent advice. I am sure if the OP does this they will have far fewer problems with their purchases. | Yes it is good advise unfortunately sometimes terrible marks / dents / scratches don't show up in photos due to light / shadows etc but I will certainly ask as many questions as possible. |
| fernendo | 03-16-2020 01:19 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? OK so based on feedback from you folk my new plan is this. If a phone arrives not as described I will do the following without opening an ebay case:-
Offer them a partial refund agreement if appropriate
And / Or Offer to return the device at my own cost for a full refund
This is a good deal for the seller as they won't get a defect or have to pay return postage so I am taking a loss for their mistake.
If they ignore or don't agree only then will I open a case.
I think this is a pretty fair and reasonable approach as it will only cost the seller their time not any money or any defects and bearing in mind they have wasted my time I think it's a generous approach to take.
The furious foaming at the mouth trolls will probably find fault with this but I think it's more than fair. |
| prodigyace | 03-16-2020 01:57 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? More than fair IMO |
| fernendo | 03-16-2020 03:22 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by prodigyace
(Post 1077733)
More than fair IMO | Thanks don't tell the trolls it will make them furious |
| fernendo | 03-16-2020 03:35 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? One more thing to mention. People on here are saying how annoying it is that buyers open a case rather than contact them directly.
Ebay are almost forcing buyers to open as case as if you go to ask seller a question it says what about and when you say about an item not as described it automatically opens a case. It never used to do this you can to actually click on an "open a case button"
It's my understanding that the only way to avoid automatically opening a case is to use the other category which is technically the incorrect category.
I might be wrong on this though maybe someone can clarify? If I am wrong I'm sure the trolls will jump and the chance to shoot me down like I care lol. |
| fernendo | 03-16-2020 03:42 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by quizmaniac
(Post 1077307)
Its true you have had some negative comments but you have asked for few .in your first post you say the phones you buy are OFTEN not as described and as a result you have to open a LOT of return cases,now your saying roughly 1 in 12 so most are ok.
You must have a good outlet to buy that many phones and not resell them on ebay so fair play :). | I appreciate what you're saying but the words often and a lot need to be put in context.
Just for example if I purchased 100 phones per day on ebay and sent 5 back a day you could easily say I am often getting phones not as described and that I am opening a lot of cases but in the context of a percentage it's only 5% of my orders.
It depends if ebay rate you based purely on the amount of cases you open in a certain peroid of time or if they factor in what it is as a percent of your purchases. I supposed it depends on how smart their system is. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-16-2020 04:08 PM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by fernendo
(Post 1077718)
Offer them a partial refund agreement if appropriate
And / Or Offer to return the device at my own cost for a full refund
| You'll never catch me paying for shipping back an item that was the seller's mistake.
Just as I, as a seller, would never expect a buyer to pay for shipping when the problem was my fault. |
| fernendo | 03-17-2020 07:51 AM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 1077769)
You'll never catch me paying for shipping back an item that was the seller's mistake.
Just as I, as a seller, would never expect a buyer to pay for shipping when the problem was my fault. | I understand that you're saying but there are 2 things to consider:-
1) It's in my interest to keep the amount of disputes / partial refunds I issue to be low to keep my account in good standing
2) If I keep on amicable terms with the seller I may be able to purchase from them again successfully in the future especially if they regularly sell phones
3) They may have genuinely missed a scratch or crack or not mentioned it as they didn't think it was a big deal. It's good to try and see things from their point of view especially if they aren't professional sellers.
4) If I continue making good profit I can afford to take the loss.
5) It's nicer and good karma to resolve things in an amicable manner. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-17-2020 09:56 AM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? You asked for advice and I gave it to you. You do you, though! :)
1. Buying accounts are a dime a dozen, so it doesn't even matter if it gets suspended. You just make another one.
2. Most regular sellers of electronics won't even negotiate a return through messaging. "Please start a return".
3. True, for non-professionals. I guess
4. That's your prerogative. I try to minimize ALL losses.
5. There's no karma on ebay. Look out for yourself, because no one else will. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-17-2020 10:16 AM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1077951)
OTT replying.
| What's OTT? |
| dishmachine | 03-17-2020 11:17 AM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 1077955)
What's OTT? | Oh my word.... this thread just keeps on giving 🤦🏼*♂️ |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-17-2020 11:21 AM | Re: Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble? Quote:
Originally Posted by dishmachine
(Post 1077959)
Oh my word.... this thread just keeps on giving 🤦🏼*♂️ |
Am I supposed to known every acronym ever made? :lol: |
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