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I really do not feel the need to buy the book - It wont tell me how to fix my current situation and i am extremely clued up in the internet privacy side of things, being linked is not an issue i'm worried about minus the address issue i have bought up -


As said before - i'm not here for free advice, i will pass on the price of the book to aspkin as a donation if someone can come up with a solution - i'm that confident the book doesn't have what i need to know right now.

If aspkin could confirm on this thread what i want to do isn't possible then i can leave it at that.

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There are a lot of ways to make changes to your address, some of them work, some of them do not. The one you suggested above would not.
Try them out while this account is working as you may need the working ones later.

Start sending letters to those address' to see what will get though to your address.

On the problem you have about having to use your own address, have you not considered setting up a collection account with one of the postal services?

Not sure what the item is but you could offer packing materials that would obviously be addressed to your real address, the way microsoft do with the xbox, when they send out the coffin. (A cardboard box)
You could state you have more than one workshop and due to workload the closest one to the buyer will be selected, or due to workload your system will select the best one to fulfil the customers order in the shortest possible time.

What people are trying to warn you about your problem, is that you have already lost one account and you are making the mistake of relying on this third account even though you know you can't rely on just one account.
Most of the address changing info you are offering is moved into the subscribers area or the book, so you may be better off following that path before you begin to waste bank accounts, and phone numbers or the other things that can help your new accounts.

Also when you suggest it is just the bot you have to beat. the bot is not the problem it is the human that will be asking for you to send ID and will be looking at your account.
If you have competitors, you also have to worry about them.

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Very good suggestion with the box idea - my only concern is that the main competitors don't do it that way and it will add extra costs to repair price and also extra time while they wait for the box to arrive and then to send back etc.


Do you think my answer may lie in the subscription forum (should i subscribe)

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All I can tell you is that if you look through the forum there is a lot of stuff that is moved to the subscribers forum and then I suppose into the newer versions of the book

With the more than one workshop idea you would not need to send packing materials and you are just pretending to be bigger than you are by suggesting that you have several workshops across the country then you send them your own workshop address in a message or the invoice message box.
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All I can tell you is that if you look through the forum there is a lot of stuff that is moved to the subscribers forum and then I suppose into the newer versions of the book

With the more than one workshop idea you would not need to send packing materials and you are just pretending to be bigger than you are by suggesting that you have several workshops across the country then you send them your own workshop address in a message or the invoice message box.
I think i am correct in thinking eBay manually read messages on accounts for whatever reason they might need too (seller cases etc) so i imagine sending a message with a blacklisted address will link me eventually?

People also tend to send their items to the registered address straight after they pay even if i state int he auction not too - had this problem with my business parter where some people would just send to his address as it was the registered one. Last thing i need is a £500+ item going to a stealth address
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You could try some kind of mail forward mail service.
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isitworthless,

Very good suggestion with the box idea - my only concern is that the main competitors don't do it that way and it will add extra costs to repair price and also extra time while they wait for the box to arrive and then to send back etc.


Do you think my answer may lie in the subscription forum (should i subscribe)

Cheers.


First of all, your NOW account is time limited, I'm 100% on this, it could be in a week or few months but if you use it , it will happen and most likely when you have plenty of dosh in there

Second of all you have way bigger problems than a little EXTRA Cost.
Bigger picture is relevant here, if you do ever get a manual review from eby you will get shut down in no time.

How many other people with the same name, first and last in your area do what you do, sell your service ? on ebay at that ?

If your account wasn't so stuffed then the problem in regards to your address and people sending stuff is a simple one to sort for free that everyone has seems to over looked, however its not something I'm going to share with you because it seem to me you want to have your cake and eat it, well eat away pal and when you have had enough come back with a different out look and you might actually get the help you need.

Oh, and to answer you question, no it lies in your attitude.

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First of all, your NOW account is time limited, I'm 100% on this, it could be in a week or few months but if you use it , it will happen and most likely when you have plenty of dosh in there

Second of all you have way bigger problems than a little EXTRA Cost.
Bigger picture is relevant here, if you do ever get a manual review from eby you will get shut down in no time.

How many other people with the same name, first and last in your area do what you do, sell your service ? on ebay at that ?

If your account wasn't so stuffed then the problem in regards to your address and people sending stuff is a simple one to sort for free that everyone has seems to over looked, however its not something I'm going to share with you because it seem to me you want to have your cake and eat it, well eat away pal and when you have had enough come back with a different out look and you might actually get the help you need.

Oh, and to answer you question, no it lies in your attitude.

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Not sure i have an attitude. All you get on this forum is people pushing the book. Fair enough it's going to be well worth the read but i can't say it enough the book will not teach me what i need to know right now.

What is a better outlook? I'm simply asking for a solution and even offering a reward for it.

I've been registered here since 2008 - that's almost 4 years of information i've sucked up. I don't see why saying the book wont solve my problem gets some of you on edge.

I just feel like you're trolling, come into my thread were people are trying to come up with a solution for me, you come in and tell me you have one and that you're not giving me it because of my attitude. Okkk.
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First of all, your NOW account is time limited, I'm 100% on this, it could be in a week or few months but if you use it , it will happen and most likely when you have plenty of dosh in there

Second of all you have way bigger problems than a little EXTRA Cost.
Bigger picture is relevant here, if you do ever get a manual review from eby you will get shut down in no time.

How many other people with the same name, first and last in your area do what you do, sell your service ? on ebay at that ?

If your account wasn't so stuffed then the problem in regards to your address and people sending stuff is a simple one to sort for free that everyone has seems to over looked, however its not something I'm going to share with you because it seem to me you want to have your cake and eat it, well eat away pal and when you have had enough come back with a different out look and you might actually get the help you need.

Oh, and to answer you question, no it lies in your attitude.

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Also i think you missed the point.

I want to create a stealth account and still use my current address / atleast have post delivered here.


I 100% understand my account is a ticking bomb hence why i want a stealth setup.
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Also i think you missed the point.

I want to create a stealth account and still use my current address / atleast have post delivered here.


I 100% understand my account is a ticking bomb hence why i want a stealth setup.

you right i missed that point because it wasn't pointed out till now.

the point i was making was you need to go stealth, so who missed the point .
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It's easy to assume you would have read all the posts & replies before making one, i have stated i want to create a stealth account etc.

Again i'm still confused about it all. I don't care to get into an argument over misinformation or anything like that, i would like to stay on topic though and get through this barrier if possible.
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Just to clarify - my paypal wont get limited will it?

the first account that got suspended didnt have its paypal suspended.

The paypal is still up and running, no money was limited or held.
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you have answered my question and your own about who's missed the point right there.

I wasn't trying to argue either, just offer advise, which in turn you have not listend to or refuse to believe so like i said good luck.
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Oh lordy! Marine at one point you try and say you know it all, but then you are asking random questions about fairly basic points... I couldnt care less if you bought the book or not, I dont get anything from promoting it.

But I think this problem with your address is the least of your worries, if you wanna go stealth you need to know a lot more besides, its specialist knowledge really - I dont mean its anything particularly illegal or technically challenging, but until you really know what you're on about its not easy to put a lot of it into a context that a non-stealther like yourself would understand.

I know how to get around the address thing but I'm not going to spell it out on this forum for a number of reasons and I'm not interested in making any financial gain for sharing what I know with someone who thinks there is an instant way to do something that the rest of us have put a lot of time into perfecting. Chances are you'd screw it up because you wouldnt do it correctly because you'll have missed something vital. Then that might have a knock on effect and ruin it for everyone else.

Anyway I'm not gonna contribute to this thread anymore cos its just frustrating trying to talk to someone who thinks they know it all.

P.S what is it you're getting banned for? Flashing X-Box / PS3's etc? Thats illegal anyway.
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No i am not flashing xbox's or doing anything illegal - it wasn't even my account that was suspended but as i logged into it they linked all my accounts to it, so no i was not doing anything illegal.


Also again, just because i say i don't want to buy the book means i'm a know it all? Cmon...

I asked a simple question as another member said my paypal will get limited, but my last one didn't, so why would it this time? The book doesn't answer that question either does it? Not even you can answer that question.

It was silly of me to ask it as only paypal know the answer to that one.

I have had some very kind help from other members privately and also in this topic - covering all the information i need to close this thread as i have the solution.

Seriously wouldn't have been hard to be supportive - just because you don't like the fact i may actually have done a lot of research before posting this thread and the fact my career ventures into this field of privacy (better not say that to loud, i'll be called a know it all)
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I have found several empty lots around my neighborhood, for example,if my address was 200 main st, and that's what eBay had, the empty lot is 3 doors down, I would use 208 main street, Ste 200'
I have received mail this way, and I currently have accts in operation this way.
They are still up and selling.
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I have found several empty lots around my neighborhood, for example,if my address was 200 main st, and that's what eBay had, the empty lot is 3 doors down, I would use 208 main street, Ste 200'
I have received mail this way, and I currently have accts in operation this way.
They are still up and selling.
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I think i have this covered already.

For example say ebay had blacklisted: 124 Ridge Close. If i put 126 Ridge close, (124) 126 would not exist as the last unit on the street is 124. This would work and avoid links in your opinion?
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I think i have this covered already.

For example say ebay had blacklisted: 124 Ridge Close. If i put 126 Ridge close, (124) 126 would not exist as the last unit on the street is 124. This would work and avoid links in your opinion?
Make sure you have your ID ready for those address', as the moment they look on the voting register and see nothing they will be requesting it.

But you can also change road to the other alternatives or turn the building you are in into apartments or units.

The reality of royal mail is that they will deliver your item with the door number and the postcode so the rest is nothing so playing around with it does not make much difference to them.

Post letters to yourself with the changes to test them.

But follow the one rule of ebay that everyone should follow: Do not just have the one account
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marine I would advise just reading the book, there are many ways you can get round the problem but i think you should learn to create stealth accounts first before you use them

Your account will eventually get banned when ebay spot it it might be a week it might be 6 months but what you need to do if you want to make money is have 5/6 strong accounts ready to sell instead of leaving you in this panicky predicament
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Thanks for the help.

Just trying to explore this option.

The split into units/rooms is a good idea, but how viable is it?

I work from home, but i figure i could put my full address and have it addressed to 'Room 2' or something. As long as i have a stealth name with documents backing said those details, could they bar it just because it's the same house?
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Just to clarify - my paypal wont get limited will it?

the first account that got suspended didnt have its paypal suspended.

The paypal is still up and running, no money was limited or held.
Well you sure know how to ruin my 1st morning coffee

Let's clear the deck NOW.

What you currently have as an ebay account may not survive much longer.

That is the opinion of users with decades of collected knowledge.

You have a paypal account that is in netherland. It is damaged because of your other activities that have linked everything.

You are now waiting for axes to fall.

Your choice then has to be based on your desire to continue your business.

That is a highly reasonable desire.


You need to work out all the options.

One essential option will be using new info that in no way links you to anything previously suspended.

At the moment this is difficult as you must understand. Same items, wanting to use the same or slightly edited address all go against creating long term stealth accounts.

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Well you sure know how to ruin my 1st morning coffee

Let's clear the deck NOW.

What you currently have as an ebay account may not survive much longer.

That is the opinion of users with decades of collected knowledge.

You have a paypal account that is in netherland. It is damaged because of your other activities that have linked everything.

You are now waiting for axes to fall.

Your choice then has to be based on your desire to continue your business.

That is a highly reasonable desire.


You need to work out all the options.

One essential option will be using new info that in no way links you to anything previously suspended.

At the moment this is difficult as you must understand. Same items, wanting to use the same or slightly edited address all go against creating long term stealth accounts.

Planing is needed.


Indeed - This is why i'm asking for help. I know any accounts i own are dead.

I want to create stealth accounts now and get it rolling and build my empire with the help of eBay.

The question still remains in my eyes.. is there actually a way around what i want to do? My address is blacklisted. I still need to display an address publically on eBay that i can actually receive mail at - on time!


Do you feel that if i buy the book and ask over in the Sub forums i may actually get the help i need?

Cheers Greenbean for the help you're giving me.
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The answer to your question is YES I know for a fact there are suggestions that will help you in the stealth guide but if you can't create proper stealth accounts u won't get far and you have to think outside the box for solutions

Not everyone wants to buy the stealth guide but in the long term you will prob need this forum to advise you once you learn to master stealth accounts I've been a member for a num of years and still come back for advice as silly mistakes can cost you a power seller account
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